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July 3, 2012 1:37:57 AM

Hello, First id like to say thanks to everyone here. This is my first time here and it seems like a great community. Down to business. I am looking to build my first rig and i have $300 to spend on it but i can possibly go up to $350 or $400 if absolutely necessary. I am looking for a good quad core or better processor with a motherboard that is USB 3.0 ready and a graphics card that will allow me to play games like Star Wars The Old Republic, Diablo 3, Battlefield 3 and popular titles out currently. I have done a good bit of research but i cant make up my mind. I do not need a Hard Drive, Optical Drive or OS i mainly just need CPU, Motherboard, Graphics card, RAM, Case and PSU. Im used to buying AMD but im not opposed to Intel. I have been researching on TigerDirect.com and Newegg.com as well as amazon and ebay also.
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July 3, 2012 2:02:39 AM

ok, i'll put it this way; you want 6 components for a total of $400 maximum that leaves $66 a part. that is possible until you get to the part:
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a graphics card that will allow me to play games like Star Wars The Old Republic, Diablo 3, Battlefield 3 and popular titles out currently.

for $66 it isn't going to happen. for $120+ it might.

EDIT: nevermind. someone may try to convince you how great a Llano build is for budget gaming. well they need to help the people i have the last few days who were extremely dissatisfied with the gaming performance and ended up selling it.

get a $650 budget.
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July 3, 2012 2:14:26 AM

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I am looking for a good quad core or better processor with a motherboard that is USB 3.0 ready and a graphics card that will allow me to play games like Star Wars The Old Republic, Diablo 3, Battlefield 3 and popular titles out currently.

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i mainly just need CPU, Motherboard, Graphics card, RAM, Case and PSU.


At least $600 budget is required.
July 3, 2012 2:14:31 AM
July 3, 2012 2:16:46 AM

Yeah sorry to tell you but for BF3 unless your playing on a really low resolution or you don't mind 20FPS you need a $600 budget.
July 3, 2012 2:18:29 AM

Anonymous said:
ok, i'll put it this way; you want 6 components for a total of $400 maximum that leaves $66 a part. that is possible until you get to the part:
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a graphics card that will allow me to play games like Star Wars The Old Republic, Diablo 3, Battlefield 3 and popular titles out currently.

for $66 it isn't going to happen. for $120+ it might.

EDIT: nevermind. someone may try to convince you how great a Llano build is for budget gaming. well they need to help the people i have the last few days who were extremely dissatisfied with the gaming performance and ended up selling it.

get a $650 budget.


From what ive put together i have a AMD FX6100,a MSI 880GMS E-41 MOBO. a Diamond 6570PE32G Radeon HD 6570 Video Card - 2048MB, GDDR3,video card, 4 gigs of Crucial Ballistix RAM, and a case with 500W PSU and it is $361.43 after shipping and everything. Opinions on this build?
July 3, 2012 2:19:43 AM

What is your monitor resolution?
July 3, 2012 2:23:35 AM

carlwinslo said:
From what ive put together i have a AMD FX6100,a MSI 880GMS E-41 MOBO. a Diamond 6570PE32G Radeon HD 6570 Video Card - 2048MB, GDDR3,video card, 4 gigs of Crucial Ballistix RAM, and a case with 500W PSU and it is $361.43 after shipping and everything. Opinions on this build?


ditch the FX-6100, get a phenom II 965 and spend the saved money on a better GPU. I would recommend 7750/7770 at least...
July 3, 2012 2:32:53 AM

Like Stickg1 said, ditch the FX-6100, you'll need a better GPU for what you're wanting to do. Really though, this PC's iffy. You really should just wait until you have a $600 budget.
July 3, 2012 2:33:59 AM

ujaansona said:
What is your monitor resolution?


My monitor is capable of 1600x900 max with DVI connections. I dont necessarily have to be able to play battlefield 3 but i would like to be able to if its possible. I definitely want to be able to play Star Wars The Old Republic and Diablo 3 though. Why is a Phenom II 965 BE only $15 cheaper than a 6 core FX-6100? thats why i started with FX-6100 it seemed like it was worth more value.
July 3, 2012 2:41:00 AM

Also what would be a good starting build? Say if i spent $350 to build a working PC with hopes to upgrade it in the future i.e. buying a new graphics card to crossfire at a later time?
July 3, 2012 2:50:01 AM

carlwinslo said:
Also what would be a good starting build? Say if i spent $350 to build a working PC with hopes to upgrade it in the future i.e. buying a new graphics card to crossfire at a later time?


ASRock Z77 Pro3 - $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.5GHz Turbo) - $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 - $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - $32
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GZ-F3HEB Black SECC Steel / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $392
July 3, 2012 2:51:33 AM

oxford373 said:
A8-3850 is enough for 1280x720 high settings or 1600x900 medium settings
read this review http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-...


Thanks for that info. I was looking into using that in my build earlier. I am heavily considering it again. What is this trinity thing she is talking about though? Also what would be a good enough 6570 to go with it for my budget?
July 3, 2012 2:53:29 AM

I dont like suggesting the APUs because the best hybrid crossfire you can do is with a 6670 and that crossfire can't even outperform a 6770. Also if he were to get a 6670 or 7770 not a lot of the FM1 boards have multiple pcie 16x slots for crossfire later.

I think it would be better to get a phenom, a $80 crossfire/sli mobo and the best GPU he can possibly afford with his budget. Then later on he can add another GPU if he needs it.
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July 3, 2012 2:56:55 AM

oxford373 said:
A8-3850 is enough for 1280x720 high settings or 1600x900 medium settings
read this review http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-...

no it is not.
1) none of those benchmarks were of the settings @ those resolutions.
2) all those benchmarks were taken in fraps at 25 seconds. that is not nearly enough time for a true reflection in game play.

@OP avoid the FM1 socket like it had an STD unless you are using it for an HTPC.
an AM3+ socket will give you a lot more options if you are wanting to build something now and hope to upgrade it.
July 3, 2012 2:57:58 AM

trinity A10-5800k is a little faster than A8-3850 and it will be available next month
but A8-3850 is still the best available, you saw just the first page continue the review to see its gaming performance
i suggest to buy A8 or A10 (next month) and upgrade graphics later
July 3, 2012 2:58:44 AM

Case $45 (also comes in various colors) 120mm rear, with space for 120mm front
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo $67 ASRock with LGA1155, USB3, gigabit Ethernet
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Pentium G620 $50
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

RAM $40 8GB gSkill 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU OCZ $50 (after rebate) 600W, 80+ rated, OCZ is much more reliable now compared to how they use to be
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU Radeon 7770 $120 (after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $372 after rebates

not sure it would play games at high detail/resolution, but it would be a good starting point. Obviously a little larger budget would go a long way towards making the machine much faster.
July 3, 2012 2:59:10 AM

Anonymous said:
no it is not.
1) none of those benchmarks were of the settings @ those resolutions.
2) all those benchmarks were taken in fraps at 25 seconds. that is not nearly enough time for a true reflection in game play.

@OP avoid the FM1 socket like it had an STD unless you are using it for an HTPC.
an AM3+ socket will give you a lot more options if you are wanting to build something now and hope to upgrade it.


lol, I like this guy ^
July 3, 2012 3:00:25 AM

Currently it is not advisable to choose AMD over Intel when you are considering to add discrete GPU later.
July 3, 2012 3:01:57 AM

CaedenV said:
Case $45 (also comes in various colors) 120mm rear, with space for 120mm front
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo $67 ASRock with LGA1155, USB3, gigabit Ethernet
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Pentium G620 $50
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

RAM $40 8GB gSkill 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU OCZ $50 (after rebate) 600W, 80+ rated, OCZ is much more reliable now compared to how they use to be
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU Radeon 7770 $120 (after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $372 after rebates

not sure it would play games at high detail/resolution, but it would be a good starting point. Obviously a little larger budget would go a long way towards making the machine much faster.



HD7770 should do great with his 1600x900 resolution. I like this build he just posted. Plus you can always drop an i3 or i5 in a year for more performance.
July 3, 2012 3:08:28 AM

ok i like the two Intel ideas so far but id like to see an AMD build that can compete and still be economical. It seems like AMD is trying to go hardcore to keep up with Intel but are failing and the prices are failing too. Does anyone have a AM3+ configure that will compete with the two Intel builds here?
July 3, 2012 3:09:33 AM

i like this build too,but he wanted quad core .
July 3, 2012 3:11:48 AM

stickg1 said:
HD7770 should do great with his 1600x900 resolution. I like this build he just posted. Plus you can always drop an i3 or i5 in a year for more performance.



YOURS IS THE BEST :sol: 
July 3, 2012 3:14:49 AM

I like AMD, but the A8/10 series only makes sense for HTPCs that do light gaming, and laptops. The FX and Phenom II series simply cannot compete on $/! with anything Intel makes in any price bracket. So that leaves Intel for better or worse.
July 3, 2012 3:14:51 AM

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an AMD build that can compete and still be economical

AMD can't compete with Intel builds anymore. Ivy bridge is simply too fast clock for clock compared to any AMD processor out there.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

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Does anyone have a AM3+ configure that will compete with the two Intel builds here?

Highly unlikely.
July 3, 2012 3:20:30 AM

ok so i was researching the g850 earlier too. I like what i see. So what would be a good expandable motherboard and video card for it. I dont know anything about pairing video cards. I know the terms Crossfire and Sli mean that the motherboard is ready for running multiple GPU's at once. What am i missing here? I have seen mobo's that say Crossfire/sli ready and also GPU's that say the same. Do they both have to have it or just one?
Anonymous
July 3, 2012 3:21:41 AM

CaedenV said:
Case $45 (also comes in various colors) 120mm rear, with space for 120mm front
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo $67 ASRock with LGA1155, USB3, gigabit Ethernet
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Pentium G620 $50
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

RAM $40 8GB gSkill 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU OCZ $50 (after rebate) 600W, 80+ rated, OCZ is much more reliable now compared to how they use to be
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU Radeon 7770 $120 (after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $372 after rebates

not sure it would play games at high detail/resolution, but it would be a good starting point. Obviously a little larger budget would go a long way towards making the machine much faster.


all good but it might be better to get a cheap case and better mobo:
DIYPC SW-9001 Black SPCC Steel ATX Mid Tower $19.99
if the OP doesn't like the color they can spray paint it.
ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP $89.99
i :love:  that board.

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July 3, 2012 3:28:18 AM
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A Complete build including graphics card, good for Moderate gaming.

ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Pentium G850 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz - $88
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 - $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $32
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GZ-F3HEB Black SECC Steel / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GV-R775OC-1GI Radeon HD 7750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 - $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $390 :) 
July 3, 2012 3:33:17 AM

ujaansona said:
A Complete build including graphics card, good for Moderate gaming.

ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Pentium G850 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz - $88
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 - $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $32
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GZ-F3HEB Black SECC Steel / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GV-R775OC-1GI Radeon HD 7750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 - $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $390 :) 


Very well done, that is a winner right there boys (and girls)
July 3, 2012 3:35:50 AM

Thank You! :) 
July 3, 2012 3:36:21 AM

Ok you guys are awesom. I couldnt find the ASRock mobo's on tigerdirect but i found one that i like. I am using TigerDirect because they dont have sales tax here. So here is my build please let me know what you think.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Grand total with shipping is $377. Thoughts?
July 3, 2012 3:39:26 AM

oxford373 said:
i like this build too,but he wanted quad core .

go with results, not specs. The Pentium G duel core matches or beats the A8 in just about any CPU oriented metric (obviously IGP metrics put A8 ahead as the onboard G620 graphics sucks). Plus (as previously mentioned) there is a clear upgrade path to an i5 down the line. Plus with the G620 being 1/2 the cost of the A8 frees up a lot of money for the GPU.

A change to make in my build; spend a few extra dollars for a mobo with xFire support. The PSU should have no problem supporting a 2nd 7770 down the road, and duel 7770s can get decent frame rates on most games.
July 3, 2012 3:40:08 AM

carlwinslo said:
Ok you guys are awesom. I couldnt find the ASRock mobo's on tigerdirect but i found one that i like. I am using TigerDirect because they dont have sales tax here. So here is my build please let me know what you think.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Grand total with shipping is $377. Thoughts?


Change the motherboard.
MSI H77MA-G43 Intel 7 Series Motherboard - Micro ATX, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Intel H77 Express, 1600MHz DDR3, SATA III (6Gb/s), RAID, 8-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0, PCIe 3.0, SLI/CrossFireX Ready - $95
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
July 3, 2012 3:42:18 AM

Best answer selected by carlwinslo.
July 3, 2012 3:43:29 AM

Glad to be of service. :) 
July 3, 2012 3:46:19 AM

Ok you guys are all awesome! i like the build. Do you think it will play Battlefield 3? if not would what would it take down the road to do it? P.S Half the credit for best answer goes to CaeDenv he was on the right track but the g850 and mobo go to ujaansona. either way thanks to everyone whether you were AMD or Intel. I'm excited to see how it works out. I havnt owned a pentium in ages.
Anonymous
July 3, 2012 3:48:24 AM

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Do you think it will play Battlefield 3?

it won't be pretty but yes single player no problem.
July 3, 2012 3:50:26 AM

Would adding an extra GPU later make it run smooth for multiplayer?
Anonymous
July 3, 2012 3:53:07 AM

carlwinslo said:
Would adding an extra GPU later make it run smooth for multiplayer?

it is better to get a higher end GPU then to crossfire two lower end ones.
July 3, 2012 3:54:37 AM

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Half the credit for best answer goes to CaeDenv he was on the right track but the g850


I completely agree.

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Do you think it will play Battlefield 3


It will run BF3 on medium/high settings.
July 3, 2012 3:57:22 AM

awesome guys thanks again!
July 3, 2012 3:59:53 AM

You are welcome. :) 
Now, go get the system. Happy playing! :) 
July 3, 2012 5:02:28 AM

Ok another question about this build. Since the mobo already has simple graphics onboard would it be better to buy a i5 and skip the graphics card for now until i have enough to buy a GTX 560 ti or something? It would cost the same amount and i would be able to buy good GPU for around 150 or 200 down the road and just use my pc for general things until then?
Anonymous
July 3, 2012 5:05:05 AM

if you can deal with intel HD 3000 graphics for a bit; that would be a pretty good move.
July 3, 2012 5:06:46 AM

^ +1. looniam said it right. I was thinking the same. Get an i5 now, get a good card- GTX560ti or GTX570 or GTX670 or HD7850 later.
July 3, 2012 5:10:44 AM

the i5 3450 is third generation though isnt it? Would a mobo that supports 2nd generation support the i5 3450?
Anonymous
July 3, 2012 5:17:51 AM

thats a bit sticky. a z68/h67/h61 with a recent BIOS will support a ivy bridge cpu. but if it has been sitting on the self before the BIOS was released; you would need to have a sandy bridge CPU to boot it up, update the BIOS before you could use an ivy bridge cpu.
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