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July 3, 2012 5:09:38 AM

Hello! I need help with my first build it will be for general gaming and media usage. There will be times where i will want to push the limits of the graphics with games and times where i will be processing RAW photographs whilst doing other tasks such as listening to music or watching a movie. I know very basics of computers but i would consider myself tech savvy. i know some people who can with basics but i need help on specific hardware. THANKS!

I will use the guide that was in the sticky


Approximate Purchase Date: within the month?

Budget Range: $800 goal absolutely sub $1000 but in reality as cheap as i can go while still getting what i want

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: where most reliable and cheapest

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: most reliable and cheapest

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe down the road

Monitor Resolution: not sure yet will depend on the TV/monitor i get


Parts being considered for build

CPU: AMD FX-8120 $155 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: Radeon HD 6850 $150 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-125-...

Motherboard:? usb 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AM3+ don't think i will ever need more then 16 gb RAM in this builds life so 2 RAM slots for 2x8? at least one PCIe x16 slot

Internal HDD: $120 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I know that at newegg if i buy the CPU i can get a combo deal these are the one they have http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCombos.aspx?Item=N...

OS: I will be running Win7 home primium $100
RAM: 2x8 ?
power supply: ?
case: ?
DVD RW Drive: ?

not sure what else i will need to look into. advice?

thanks for helping me out!
July 3, 2012 5:42:27 AM

I really hesitate to recommend the FX-8120 on any build when any Intel CPU will beat it in every single test. I know it's supposed to be better for Photoshop purposes, but I still wouldn't.

For a $1K build I'd recommend something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($137.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.00 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1057.79
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

A little over budget but better GPU, better motherboard, better CPU, better everything.
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July 3, 2012 5:58:25 AM

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I really hesitate to recommend the FX-8120 on any build when any Intel CPU will beat it in every single test. I know it's supposed to be better for Photoshop purposes, but I still wouldn't.


http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

I don't know much but pass mark rates the 8120 better then the 3570k and the 8120 is cheaper. please shed some light on this.


and do you think i really need a $400 graphics card?

how about a GeForce GTX 480 ? but do i still need to spend the $50 more?
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July 3, 2012 4:12:48 PM

shallfrisch said:
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I really hesitate to recommend the FX-8120 on any build when any Intel CPU will beat it in every single test. I know it's supposed to be better for Photoshop purposes, but I still wouldn't.


http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

I don't know much but pass mark rates the 8120 better then the 3570k and the 8120 is cheaper. please shed some light on this.


and do you think i really need a $400 graphics card?

how about a GeForce GTX 480 ? but do i still need to spend the $50 more?


The 480 is like 4 generations old and it's a massive power hog. The 670 is newer, will handle redraws with lightning speed and uses 1/3 the power that the 480 did.

The only areas where the FX-8120 rates better than the i5-3570K are in Photoshop type applications but even then the 3770K is still a better choice IMO, the FX has a lot of problems associated with it, I'd say read these before you decide to go with it:
- AMD FX vs. Core i3: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4100-core-i3-210...
- FX-8120 after UEFI updates: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-7-hotfix-bu...
- FX-8120 efficiency explained: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/bulldozer-efficienc...

The biggest problem with the FX is that it relies too much on Windows and is based on such aging architecture that it's hard to recommend it. Where AMD's problems lie is that they've been dragging out the AM3 socket past the point of usefulness and it just couldn't handle the newer CPU instructions. Until Pile Driver is out - that's supposed to use a new socket (AM4, something else) - until then it's pretty much Intel all the way. Whether or not it beats Sandy / Ivy Bridge with the new socket remains to be seen.
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July 3, 2012 5:17:52 PM

my goal on this build is $800 i don't think i can afford those if you had to pick cheaper products what would you go with? also no overclocking do i still need a cooler?

i really only have 500 to spend on gpu cpu and motherboard by the looks of the cost of everything else
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