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First Build, Need Everything ~$1500

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July 3, 2012 4:54:07 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: this week

Budget Range: $1500 for everything, will consider going over a bit if it's a good value proposition, if there's money to be saved I'd love to hear your suggestions

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Internet, Movies, MS Office, no video editing, dabble in Photoshop

Parts Not Required: need everything

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, have preferred account

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: Intel processor, open minded to Nvidia/ATI

Overclocking: Plan to in future

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: This will be my first build. I've been doing research and I've come up with the list below. Any suggestions are welcome. I'd like this to be as well rounded as possible. I decided to use Z68 and 2500k because I feel like I'll get more bang for my buck and don't necessarily believe in "future-proofing." I'm interested in your opinions on this as well. Maybe I'll add a second gpu later on.

Also, would appreciate any comments as far as possible upgrades/improvements to anything on this list including case, psu, monitor, mouse, keyboard, etc...

Thank you in advance

Here's the list (last price listed is final price after discount, rebates not included):

Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER-U3 Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ,comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top ...
Item #: N82E16811147060 -$10.00 Instant $69.99 $59.99

HD: Samsung by Seagate Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ/ST500DM005 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152181 -$20.00 Instant $89.99 $69.99

Monitor: Refurbished: HP DEBRANDED TSS-27X11 LED Black 27" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LED BackLight LCD Monitor
Item #: N82E16824228044 -$260.00 Instant $499.99 $239.99

Wireless: TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB 2.0 High Gain Wireless Adapter
Item #: N82E16833704045 -$7.00 Instant $24.99 $17.99

GPU: MSI R7870 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support ...
Item #: N82E16814127662 -$30.00 Instant $20.00 Mail-in Rebate $319.99 $289.99
1 AMD Gift - Dirt SHOWDOWN Gift Coupon
Item #: N82E16800995124

DVD: LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827106276 $18.99

PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817371044 -$10.00 Instant $10.00 Mail-in Rebate $89.99 $79.99

KB: Rosewill RK-200 Black USB Wired Standard Keyboard
Item #: N82E16823201009 -$3.00 Instan $9.99 $6.99

Mouse: V7 M30P10-7N Black 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical Mouse - OEM
Item #: N82E16826575001 -$5.00 Instant $14.99 $9.99

Thermal: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
Item #: N82E16835100007 -$2.00 Instant $11.95 $9.95

RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 996995
Item #: N82E16820226191 $46.99

MB: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813157271
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$10.00 Instant $129.99 $119.99

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116986 $99.99

Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel ...
Item #: N82E16835103099 -$4.99 Instant $34.99 $30.00

SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Item #: N82E16820227706 -$60.00 Instant $10.00 Mail-in Rebate $149.99 $89.99

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
Item #: N82E16819115072
•Hi-Rez Studios Gift - Tribes Ascend Game Coupon Free with purchase! -$60.00 Combo $279.99 $219.99

Subtotal: $1,410.81

Sorry for the length. This is a big deal to me. A few questions: I feel like the SSD is a good deal. Is it worth $40 or so to opt for an M4? Does the PSU look good? Is a refurbished monitor a bad idea?

Thank you once again!

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July 3, 2012 5:08:05 PM

First off - do *NOT*, repeat do *NOT* purchase anything debranded or refurbished - that will lead to very bad things. The extra thermal compound isn't needed as the Hyper 212 includes non-conductive MX-4, which is better than Silver 5. I'd also skip that SSD choice - it may be a good deal, but the Vertex 3 uses a Sandforce controller that's far from reliable.

Try this for a build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G235HAbd 23.0" Monitor ($126.00 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1498.89
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

This build doesn't give you much room to get keyboard and mouse but I see you included inexpensive ones but all the components here are solid and there's nothing refurbished, debranded, aftermarket, etc.
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July 3, 2012 5:11:28 PM

It looks like a good build. I'd get the Vertex 4 instead though; far more reliable.
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July 3, 2012 5:24:52 PM

Thanks for your responses so far. I've decided to replace the refurbished monitor for this (I kind of have my heart set on 27"):

Hanns-G HL272HPB Black 27" 2ms HDMI Widescreen LED Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and replaced the SSD with a vertex 4:

OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm not sold yet on switching from a 2500k though, so for now I think I'll stick with that. G-Unit, are there any significant advantages of switching to the case you suggested?

Would a gtx 670 be overkill for a single monitor? I'm not sure that the advantages are worth $100 but I'm interested in people's opinions on this matter. Thanks again!
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July 3, 2012 5:33:47 PM

joemarma_01 said:
Thanks for your responses so far. I've decided to replace the refurbished monitor for this (I kind of have my heart set on 27"):

Hanns-G HL272HPB Black 27" 2ms HDMI Widescreen LED Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and replaced the SSD with a vertex 4:

OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm not sold yet on switching from a 2500k though, so for now I think I'll stick with that. G-Unit, are there any significant advantages of switching to the case you suggested?

Would a gtx 670 be overkill for a single monitor? I'm not sure that the advantages are worth $100 but I'm interested in people's opinions on this matter. Thanks again!


Better cable management, roomier interior, removable HD cage for larger video cards, room for a liquid radiator if you want to use one.

As far as the video card goes the GTX 670 is the best bang for buck option right now - its' performance is unmatched, even by its' bigger brother the 680, and will handle all games on ultra for several years.

As far as the 3570K - it's the newer generation of Intel, and it will unlock PCI Gen 3, and if you're going to be using a strong GPU like the 670 or 7870, you won't want to have them watered down.

Before you go with the Vertex 4 as your SSD, read the link I posted - apparently the new firmware update actually slows down the drive. Go with an M4, you won't be disappointed.
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July 3, 2012 6:25:17 PM

Thanks.

I decided to go with the 3570K and Asus P8Z77-V LK MB because it was a combo on newegg and seemed to get good reviews.

Also I decided to get the EVGA GTX 670 FTW and switched back to the Crucial M4 128 Gb. I read some more reviews on the 7870 and although it's a very good card, I feel I'd be getting better value by spending a little extra.

I ended up spending a little more but I'm comfortable with how this is rounding out. Thanks again for the suggestions and keep them coming!
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July 3, 2012 6:28:32 PM

Mmmm if your purpose it's mainly gaming, i'll clearly recommend a GTX 670, but i think it's kind of an overkill specially if you need all the parts including the O.S. Keyboard, Mouse and Monitor; and actually there's no proven difference betwen PCI-E 2.0 and 3.0 that was tested in a X79 chipset and there was no difference (just 2-3 FPS) prove is here, thre's no reson to invest more on the 3570k wich indeed heats more due to the internal compound used on Ivy Bridge.

My recommen would be this:
CPU Intel Core i5 2500K $219.99
Heatsink Cooler Master Hyper 212+ $29.99
Motherboard Asrock Z77 Extreme4 $137.86
GPU AMD Radeon (MSi) 7870 Twin Frozr 2 $289.99
RAM Corsair XMS3 8GB @1600MHz $46.99 (low profile ones to double fan the heatsink)
SSD Corsair Force 3 $114.99
HDD Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB @ 5900RPM $119.99
PSU Corsair TX650V2 $89.99 (enough for oc'ed i5 2500k and dual Radeon HD 7870)
Case NZXT Tempets 210 $64.98
OS Microsoft Windows 7 SP1 64 Bits OEM $99.99
Monitor ASUS VE228H 21.5" 1080p $153.98
Keyboard Razer BlackWidow $70.47
Mouse Logitech G500 $57.99

Total: $1497.2
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July 3, 2012 6:32:44 PM

My friend has the IB 3570k and OCed it to 4.2 GHz without issues. Anything above 4.2 is overkill.
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July 3, 2012 6:44:19 PM

I decided to post a link to the most recent iteration of my build. Here it is:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Senupe, I kind of agree with you but the price is so close, I feel I may as well go with newer tech. There's a few combos that didn't show up because newegg wouldn't let me add combos to my wish list, but I made sure all the components are there individually.

I got the Asus P8Z77-V LK motherboard because it was in a combo with the 3570K. Any thoughts on this motherboard? In my research leading up to this build, I feel like I understand most components fairly well, with the exception of the motherboard. I really don't know what difference there is between a $140 and $300 motherboard with the exception of a few connections, but oh well...that's neither here nor there.

Thanks everyone for all the help so far.
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July 3, 2012 7:03:25 PM

joemarma_01 said:
I decided to post a link to the most recent iteration of my build. Here it is:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Senupe, I kind of agree with you but the price is so close, I feel I may as well go with newer tech. There's a few combos that didn't show up because newegg wouldn't let me add combos to my wish list, but I made sure all the components are there individually.

I got the Asus P8Z77-V LK motherboard because it was in a combo with the 3570K. Any thoughts on this motherboard? In my research leading up to this build, I feel like I understand most components fairly well, with the exception of the motherboard. I really don't know what difference there is between a $140 and $300 motherboard with the exception of a few connections, but oh well...that's neither here nor there.

Thanks everyone for all the help so far.


That looks pretty good to me. The higher end motherboards will accommodate for dual and triple video card setups, more RAM, more connections - internal and external, things like that.
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