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Buyingg a 7970 - Which one?

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May 10, 2012 10:17:47 PM

Out of the following, which would you choose to buy and why? (regardless of price) :bounce: 

a) PowerColor HD 7970 V3 3GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI Dual Mini DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics

http://www.ebuyer.com/353110-powercolor-hd-7970-v3-3gb-...

b) HIS HD 7970 Fan 3GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI Dual Mini DisplayPort PCI-E

http://www.ebuyer.com/352623-his-hd-7970-fan-3gb-gddr5-...

c) XFX HD 7970 3GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI Dual Mini DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics

http://www.ebuyer.com/340135-xfx-hd-7970-3gb-gddr5-dvi-...

d) PowerColor HD 7970 3GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI Dual Mini DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics

http://www.ebuyer.com/344636-powercolor-hd-7970-3gb-gdd...

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a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2012 10:26:52 PM

You need to tell us more about your system - monitor res, psu... Have you considered GTX670 - looks pretty nice and it's less money!!!
-Bruce
a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2012 10:33:41 PM

I would not buy any of those. For a bit more you can get a good non reference cooler XFX. Just noticed that newegg is out of stock on a lot of the 7970 models.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Non reference coolers are so much better and XFX gives a lifetime warranty with the DD model. At newegg, the DD is $20 more than the reference model. PowerColor is known for being cheaper than all the other partners and they are also known for low quality products with a crappy warranty.
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May 10, 2012 11:18:07 PM

The Sapphire OC card is a good option as well, and is currently priced at $480. I have one sitting here still boxed and wrapped, because it's going back to Amazon. I decided the GTX 670 would be a better choice me personally.

If anything, I'd hold off on buying a 7970 for a couple weeks if you can. If GTX 670s can stay in stock, I expect 7970 prices to drop to the low to mid $400s depending on the model.
May 11, 2012 6:29:13 AM

dish_moose said:
You need to tell us more about your system - monitor res, psu... Have you considered GTX670 - looks pretty nice and it's less money!!!
-Bruce


Intel i5 3570k - Not overclocked yet. Will do in the future.
HD Radeon 7970
Corsair 650W
Corsair 8GB 1600MHz Vengeance
Gigabyte GA – 277 – D3H, Intel Z77
1TB Seagate STI000DM003 Barracuda 7200 RPM, 6 GB/s 64MB Cache
Samsung SE-208AB USB 2.0 DVD
Logitech Desktop Mk120 Wired Combo
Noctua-NH-U12P Fan

Also - uhm, I heard that the 7970 overclocked is better than the 670 overclocked? And I look to overclock my 7970 in the near future :D 
May 11, 2012 6:29:38 AM

Guys, I live in England, not America xD

Sorry, I should have mentioned that! :) 
May 11, 2012 7:12:37 AM

It actually depends on the game and resolution, but the 670 is $100 cheaper and runs just as well.
a c 88 U Graphics card
May 11, 2012 7:16:44 AM

The 670 is definately worth considering.
a c 175 U Graphics card
May 11, 2012 7:32:14 AM

Agreed on the GTX670. Even when OC'd if the 7970 is faster, its not faster enough considering the price difference.
May 11, 2012 9:14:28 AM

jediarron said:
Out of the following, which would you choose to buy and why? (regardless of price) :bounce: 

a) PowerColor HD 7970 V3 3GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI Dual Mini DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics

http://www.ebuyer.com/353110-powercolor-hd-7970-v3-3gb-...

b) HIS HD 7970 Fan 3GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI Dual Mini DisplayPort PCI-E

http://www.ebuyer.com/352623-his-hd-7970-fan-3gb-gddr5-...

c) XFX HD 7970 3GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI Dual Mini DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics

http://www.ebuyer.com/340135-xfx-hd-7970-3gb-gddr5-dvi-...

d) PowerColor HD 7970 3GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI Dual Mini DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics

http://www.ebuyer.com/344636-powercolor-hd-7970-3gb-gdd...


ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

GTX 670 is a little faster with $70 less.

But if you must get the 7970, wait a few day until AMD drop it down to $400-420.
May 11, 2012 9:25:55 AM

Sonny73N said:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

GTX 670 is a little faster with $70 less.

But if you must get the 7970, wait a few day until AMD drop it down to $400-420.


Are you sure that it's faster than the 7970?


May 11, 2012 9:25:59 AM

Sonny73N said:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

GTX 670 is a little faster with $70 less.

But if you must get the 7970, wait a few day until AMD drop it down to $400-420.


Are you sure that it's faster than the 7970?


May 11, 2012 9:26:07 AM

Sonny73N said:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

GTX 670 is a little faster with $70 less.

But if you must get the 7970, wait a few day until AMD drop it down to $400-420.


Are you sure that it's faster than the 7970?


May 11, 2012 9:37:38 AM

monsta said:
Sure is , have a look at the 670 versus 7970 chart

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-rev...


Sorry.

I meant this one: http://www.ebuyer.com/368520-gigabyte-gv-n670oc-2gd-gv-...

Even if you compare it to the http://www.ebuyer.com/368522-gainward-426018336-2588-67...

The Gigabye one has less base and boost clock speed, but the memory clock is 6000 in the Gigabyte, compared to the Gainward?

Or am I missing something here (P.s I am a noob)
May 11, 2012 9:49:29 AM

Gigabyte is good, but loud with those 3 fans. If you don't care about noise, not bad.

I would suggest EVGA 670 SC or MSI 670
a c 88 U Graphics card
May 11, 2012 9:51:44 AM

I prefer the Gigabyte Windforce one but it is out of stock and is only available as a pre order.
Both cards are clocked differently but both should have similar performance.
Anonymous
May 11, 2012 9:56:59 AM

Im pretty sure the 7970 fully overclocked will whipe the floor with a gtx 670 overclocked.I could be wrong but considering the 7970 keeps pace with the gtx 680 im sure an overclocked 7970 would have no trouble beating an overclocked 670.I would still go with the gtx 670 tho and as to which one is faster it varys from site to site.stock for stock about the same.
a c 175 U Graphics card
May 11, 2012 9:59:19 AM

Quote:
considering the 7970 keeps pace with the gtx 680


Since when?
Anonymous
May 11, 2012 10:00:28 AM

4745454b said:
Quote:
considering the 7970 keeps pace with the gtx 680


Since when?


clock for clock there basically the same man.Fact is ati clocked there stock card to low or wed be talking less then 3% difference between the two.I had a 7950 clocked so high i was beating alot of the gtx 680's overclocked.I dont care about stock numbers i care about how much more performance you can get out of a card.Id even put money a 7950 fully overclocked vs a gtx 670 fully overclocked the 7950 beats it.
May 11, 2012 10:21:10 AM

Azok said:
Gigabyte is good, but loud with those 3 fans. If you don't care about noise, not bad.

I would suggest EVGA 670 SC or MSI 670


The Overclocked MSI is definately price competitive, it has nick clock for it's price, but are you only suggesting those in relation to noise? :) 
May 11, 2012 10:24:42 AM

monsta said:
I prefer the Gigabyte Windforce one but it is out of stock and is only available as a pre order.
Both cards are clocked differently but both should have similar performance.


I think I like the Gigabyte one too, however, why does your preference lie with it, considering (speaking in naivety) that the Gainward one has higher clock speed?

Or does the 6000 compared to Gainward's memory speed at 3000 make a big difference?

Lol, I don't even know what it does.
a b U Graphics card
May 11, 2012 10:36:22 AM




I agree the 670 is a nice card especially for $400. That 670 review on Tom's is running a stock 7970. The stock clock setting on the 7970 is way too low. You can overclock the gpu by 200Mz on stock voltage with so much as a hiccup. That techpower up review is using a 680 with a default clock of 1137MHz and memory of 1502MHz which is apparently overclocked to 1207MHz and 1766MHz. Have any of you guys even come close to that with your 680's? It is also interesting that the Battlefield3 test at 2560x1600 has the 7970 at 42FPS and the 680 at 44FPS. Not much of a difference considering the 680 has such a high overclock. Where can you get one of those I am curious to see how much it is. All the ASUS direct cu ii cards usually have a higher price premium than other non reference models. That Call of Duty 4 test on the Overclock page also looks a bit funny. It has the direct cu II getting 243FPS at 1920x1080 and the 7970 getting 162 which is only 10 higher than the gtx 580.
May 11, 2012 11:31:10 AM

I'll be grabbing the Gigabye 670 3x2GB
a c 175 U Graphics card
May 11, 2012 12:01:00 PM

Quote:
clock for clock there basically the same man.


I was going to argue against this as its the first I'd heard of it. But taking a quick look at the link provided shows this to be true. (or at least close enough.)

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_680...

What are the clock speeds? GTX680 core clock of 1006, 7970 is 925. About 9% faster. If you jump to the last page and look at the "1080" results you'll see that the GTX680 is ~6% faster on avg. So there you go, close enough that they are more or less equal based on clock speed, assuming things scale lineally.

I picked the 1080/1200 resolution as I didn't want to dilute the results with resolution people would most likely never use with that card. No one should be buying that card and be doing any 720 gaming with it. I could see the argument that you should only be using these for 1600 or eyefinity gaming, but most of use are still on 1080 so I picked that res.

That said, I still think the GTX670 is the better buy. If its only ~3% slower then the GTX680 it's still around the speed of the 7970. It still OCs, and most important its still cheaper then the 7970. Until the price of the 7970 comes down some the GTX670 looks like the best buy to me.
Anonymous
May 12, 2012 4:29:52 AM

4745454b said:
Quote:
clock for clock there basically the same man.


I was going to argue against this as its the first I'd heard of it. But taking a quick look at the link provided shows this to be true. (or at least close enough.)

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_680...

What are the clock speeds? GTX680 core clock of 1006, 7970 is 925. About 9% faster. If you jump to the last page and look at the "1080" results you'll see that the GTX680 is ~6% faster on avg. So there you go, close enough that they are more or less equal based on clock speed, assuming things scale lineally.

I picked the 1080/1200 resolution as I didn't want to dilute the results with resolution people would most likely never use with that card. No one should be buying that card and be doing any 720 gaming with it. I could see the argument that you should only be using these for 1600 or eyefinity gaming, but most of use are still on 1080 so I picked that res.

That said, I still think the GTX670 is the better buy. If its only ~3% slower then the GTX680 it's still around the speed of the 7970. It still OCs, and most important its still cheaper then the 7970. Until the price of the 7970 comes down some the GTX670 looks like the best buy to me.


Ya before i would have said the 7950 but since the gtx 670 came out cant really argue against it.
a c 88 U Graphics card
May 12, 2012 5:41:12 AM

jediarron said:
I think I like the Gigabyte one too, however, why does your preference lie with it, considering (speaking in naivety) that the Gainward one has higher clock speed?

Or does the 6000 compared to Gainward's memory speed at 3000 make a big difference?

Lol, I don't even know what it does.



I like the Gigabyte due to the cooler and my previous cards were gigabyte with the same Windforce cooler that I liked.

The phantom is 3 slots wide , which to me is too big incase you wanna go SLI in the future, thats the only reason I wouldnt get it just like the Asus ones with the 3 slot cooler.
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