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First time builder - 1000 Euro/1400 USD Game PC

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July 4, 2012 8:34:47 PM

Hello,

First time builder. After a long mental discussion between console gaming or pc gaming; I decided to go for a PC. Now I spent quite some hours learning about PC's, the different components etc. I came up with this build and I would highly appreciate your opinions on it.

Approximate Purchase Date:
Within 2 weeks

Budget Range:
1000 Euros (1400 USD). However it's a flexible budget; 100 euros more for a huge performance increase is debatable. However if it's overkill and I might save 100 euros for a little performance decrease its debatable as well.

System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Gaming
Watching Movies (Connecting to a 42 inch tv)
Normal PC activities (browsing, school stuff etc)

Parts Not Required:
Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Speakers O.S.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
I use a dutch website called Alternate, its reliable, good service, not overpriced and they'll build the pc.

Country:
Netherlands

Parts Preferences:
None. I guess Intel over AMD.

Overclocking:
Maybe. I guess I kept the option quite open while assembling the parts.

SLI or Crossfire:
I assembled the PC while keeping a future SLI option open (in like 1-2 years when it's starting to get outdated). Hence the MOBO, PSU, Fan and Case.

Monitor Resolution:
1920 x 1080p (22 inch)

Additional Comments:
Overall I want a pretty high-end system. Durability is probably the word I'm looking for. I'd like the system to be 'safe' so to speak (no damage) and to last me a couple of years.

This is what I came up with. I feel pretty confident except for the PCIe (graphics card).


CPU: Core i5-3570k

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

PCIe: ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM

MOBO: GigaByte GA-Z77X-D3H

SSD: Samsung 830 series Desktop Upgrade Kit 128GB (64GB)

HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003, 1TB

PSU: Corsair TX650M

Case: Cooler Master HAF 922

Total price (at alternate) 1095 Euro

Thanks in advance!

July 4, 2012 8:48:54 PM

I wouldn't even bother thinking about it until a week or two before you build. Many things will have changed by then. That's a long way out.
July 4, 2012 8:58:40 PM

Ehm damn, dates are displayed different in the US. I want to buy the PC within 2 weeks...
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July 4, 2012 9:01:43 PM

Oh didn't see that.

In that case, it's a fine build. What does your list of parts total pricewise? What games will you be playing?
July 4, 2012 9:06:09 PM

1095 euros which is 1400 dollars

I guess games like Skyrim, BF3, FIFA12 and I'd probably try Diablo/Guild Wars 2
July 4, 2012 9:20:28 PM

Well, a 7850 can max all those games, no problem. If you want to overclock, get some thermal paste. MX-4 is one of the best, and so is Arctic Silver 5.
July 4, 2012 9:26:33 PM

He is getting the Hyper 212 EVO, which already comes with MX-4.
July 4, 2012 10:10:44 PM

Ah! Didn't know that.
July 4, 2012 10:12:50 PM

If he is anything like me, though, an extra tube is good to have. I wasted my whole tube in one week due to improperly applying the thermal paste and messing up when seating the HSF. :lol: 
July 5, 2012 12:15:30 AM

Thanks for the input guys. I have another question though

Is this pc build ready for an eventual Crossfire setup in the future?
July 5, 2012 12:21:43 AM

Should be.
July 5, 2012 2:43:24 AM

The specs on the page say it's Crossfire and SLI ready.
July 5, 2012 9:36:55 AM

Is it worth it to spend 140 euros more on a GTX670?
July 5, 2012 8:55:51 PM

Well, depends what games/resolution/settings you want to play.

If you want to max out games like Crysis and Metro 2033 or other graphics-intense games, get the 670. If you're OK with high settings, and maxing out some of your games, get the 7850.
July 7, 2012 12:08:30 AM

Kind of a random question maybe, but if I buy a pc like this (which is quite an investment for a student) how long will it be able to play the games that are released on acceptable (medium or so) settings?
July 7, 2012 12:19:29 AM

Well, the 7850 and 670 will max today's games, and they will definitely last for a long time. The 670 is good, but it depends on the games. The 7850 will last for 3-4 years, the 670 for 5. Again, it's dependent on the games you play. The 7870 is in between, and a good choice.
July 7, 2012 12:26:39 AM

Thanks for your quick replies man. I see, thats a longer time span than I expected!

What about dropping the SSD so I can get the GTX670 for sure? I've read that SSD's don't make that much of a difference anyway.

Would be the only way for me to get the GTX670*
July 7, 2012 12:35:27 AM

It's really more of a luxury than a necessity. If you don't need it, drop it. The money can be better spent. A 670 would be much better than an SSD, IMHO.
July 7, 2012 12:47:31 AM

They're really the same except, AFAIK, EVGA FTW GPU's are the cream-of-the-crop chips, and do perform better. I'd say get one from whatever company you prefer, and OC it, but it's up to you.
July 8, 2012 3:41:05 PM

So I am almost ready to purchase, I found a cheaper shop though.. The build is still the same except for the MOBO which is a Asus P8Z77-V LK now. How is it in relation to the GigaByte GA-Z77X-D3H?

Motherboard specifications still dazzle me lol

http://www.dixons.nl/asus-p8z77-v-lk-s1155.html
July 8, 2012 3:46:00 PM

The only real difference is the ASUS board has two PCI-3.0 slots (as opposed to the GB board having 4), but it has 2 less SATA3 ports (ASUS has 2, GB has 4).
July 8, 2012 4:02:52 PM

So it's a less good motherboard hm? what ASUS board is on pair with the gigabyte one? (they only have asus boards). Thanks for your reply
July 8, 2012 5:16:23 PM

No, I was saying the ASUS one has an extra PCI-3.0 slot, but two less SATA3 ports.
July 9, 2012 5:15:35 PM

I decided to the drop Crossfire-X option. It boils down to two options now. Which one do you guys recommend?

Optie 1: Radeon 7850, with SSD: 950 euro
Intel Core i5-3570K, s1155
Sapphire Radeon HD7850 OverClocked,2GB
Corsair Vengeance DDR3,1600-8GB KIT
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Samsung 830 series 128GB Basic KIT
Seagate Barracuda 1TB - 3.5inch
LG DVR DL 24X,SATA
Asus P8H77-M PRO,s1155
Corsair Gaming GS500WATT
Corsair Carbide 300R

Optie 2: GTX 670, no SSD: 1000 euro
Intel Core i5-3570K, s1155
MSI N670GTX-PM2D2GD5/OC
Corsair Vengeance DDR3,1600-8GB KIT
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Seagate Barracuda 1TB - 3.5inch
LG DVR DL 24X, SATA
GigaByte GA-Z77X-D3H
Corsair Gaming XFX550 WATT
Corsair Carbide 300R
July 14, 2012 11:49:41 AM

1x LG GH24NS90 Zwart € 15,40
1x Corsair Carbide 300R € 62,90
1x Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO € 25,80
1x Asus GTX670-DC2T-2GD5 € 405,-
1x Intel Core i5 3550 Boxed € 182,95
1x XFX Pro 550W € 57,90
1x Samsung 830 series 256GB € 169,-
1x Corsair Vengeance CML8GX3M2A1600C9 Low Profile € 46,95
1x MSI Z77A-G43 € 89,44

Total cost: € 1.055,34

This will be it. I dropped the Crossfire X option, which saved me bucks on the PSU, MOBO and Case. I also realised I probably wont ever overclock so I got the cheaper version of the 3570k. On the other hand for like 30 euros I do have the overclock possibility in the future. Kind of a 'why not' still. I decided to go for a bigger SSD and take no SATA HDD at all. I am not much of a downloader and theres always a possibility to buy an extra HDD in the future.

I still have some questions though.

I am not sure of the motherboard right now (compatibility). Some help there please?
The GTX670 I choose is the 'best' right?
Will everything fit into my case?

I am also gonna build myself so wish me luck lolol
July 14, 2012 7:30:19 PM

The ASUS ones are good, but if you can get an EVGA one, it'd be slightly better.
August 9, 2012 12:21:33 PM

hi msd129 :) 

i just want to suggest these points just in case until now you haven't made up your mind yet. if you don't plan on SLIng or Xfiring, then get the Asus p8z77-v M motherboard (its the smaller version of the z77 which only has 1 PCIe 3.0). aside from that, it can support your every hardware all the same when you buy the ATX version. and of course, its cheaper.

also, so that you can make use of the Intel Smart Response technology of your motherboard (comes in z77 mobos) which makes your SSD a cache, then i suggest you get a low capacity SSD just to utilize this technology. there is a huge improvement in boot, load, read, etc speeds. just get at most 60GB. i suggest the OCZ agility 3, which tom's hardware recommends in the 60GB area. and if you don't download or store much, cut your main storage to 750GB or maybe 500GB from 1TB.

i also think 7850 is a really nice card because its overclocking potential is quite high which essentially increases its value. even if you don't want to overclock, 7850 will still serve you for a long time. i just think 670 is overkill and its too expensive. but its up to your budget. anyway, if you want the 7850, get the Asus DirectCuII. Sapphire is also good, but i've read in many threads that Asus is more reliable. and it looks a lot better xD

you must also increase the wattage of your PSU. make it at least 600W, get the seasonic or corsair. its up to you to decide wether to get a modular or non modular model. i think 500W is just enough but you would want that extra power allowance.

anyways, good luck! all these information i've learned through intensive research. hope these helped!
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