Which is better for me, 1155 or 2011

[Raynoszs]

Howdy Guys.

I've read quite a few topics on this and still a bit unclear, so I thought I'd ask.

I will be building a new PC soon, so I've been looking at options and I'm stuck.

Intel have recently released their Ivy Bridge processor, but I noticed that its on socket 1155, probably due to the smaller 22nm.

Now, for my upgrade rig, I was intending to getting the Asus P9X79 Deluxe.

For my Processor, after reading these topics, I decided to not go with the 3960X but instead have opted for the 3930K 6 Core i7.

Problem I am facing is, I thought the 1155 would become obsolete sooner than the 2011.

Would I be best sticking with my current idea for this build or should I change it to the 1155 to have access to future Ivy bridge processors.

Money isnt really an issue, my budget is about 5K, maybe a bit more if need be.

I'll be using this rig for mostly gaming, Flight Sim, GTA and Battlefield 3 etc.

Thanks for your input!

 

[Raynoszs]

Oops, I might aswell add the other components for this build.
RAM: GSkill TridentX 4x4gb PC319200
HD: Intel 240GB 520 Series SSD + WD Black Edition 1TB
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1200W
Graphics: EVGA GTX690
COOLING: Intel Liquid DRX-5
OS: Win 7 PRO
CASE: Cooler master HAF

 

[FinneousPJ]

1155 because 2011 is unnecessarily expensive for what it is.

 

[Raynoszs]

Hmm, so go for something like the Asus P8Z77 Deluxe?
Would the 2011 have better performance than the 1155 though?

 

[FinneousPJ]

In gaming not really.

 

[Raynoszs]

Ok, I guess im really a noob when it comes to this, but why is the 2011 more expensive if its gaming performance is lower than the 1155?

 

[FinneousPJ]

PCs aren't gaming consoles. It's a powerful workstation platform. And because it's Intel's top of the line product. Anyway believe me it's in no way value for money gaming.

 

[Raynoszs]

Apart from gaming, I'll probably use it for video encoding aswell, HD Cam to Blu-ray disks, at the moment, it takes ages. I use DvdFab.
Plus, running flight simulator takes a lot of grunt (on the extreme settings).
Overclocking on the 3930K is also better, is it?
Lets just put it this way, which one is more future proof? the 1155 or the 2011

 

[FinneousPJ]

In what timefrime? 1 year probably 2011. 2 years and both are obsolete. This is why I recommend not spending ridiculous amounts of money on 2011.

 

[zooted]

^agreed.

 

[Raynoszs]

i7-2600K / 2700K / 3770K on LGA 1155 is all you really need.
LGA 1155 clocks better than LGA 2011 but in all incidents outside of gaming the LGA 2011 wins, but does it win by enough to justify the price difference.?

I don't think so..

Cool, thanks buddy.

Price difference really isnt an issue, I just want the best system for my purpose without the need to upgrade soon.

So what you're saying is for gaming, the 1155 will give me better performance (ignoring the price difference).
And
The 2011 will not perform better than the 1155 at gaming but will do other tasks such as rendering etc better than the 1155 (ignoring the price difference again)

So, if I ever decided to quad sli 2 GTX 690s, I shouldnt have any issues with the 1155.

Thanks dude.

 

[FinneousPJ]

I totally agree with Urban. A quality Z77 board, an i7 if you're serious about productivity at home and quad SLI.

 

[Raynoszs]

if you get GTX 690's in Quad SLi then I'm coming to live with you, LGA 1155 or LGA 2011.... :lol:

but seriously, high end LGA 1155 is all you really need and will last a few years.
i7's have HT (hyper-threading) and that will assist in your multi-tasking.
spend the money on very high end motherboard and your GTX 690's.
your set.

(and all the extras, SSD, monitors, etc..)

lol yeah, I'll see how i go with one gtx 690, and if need be, i'll order another one.

Cool, so in your opinion would this combination be best?
i7 3770K Ivy
Asus P8Z77 http://pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=MBDAS59291&name=Asus-P8Z77-V-DELUXE-Intel-Z77-ATX-Ivy-Bridge-Socke

 

[Raynoszs]

may I ask because it seems that price is too too high for me personally.
and prices in the US are madd cheaper..!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131818
$280 US

how much does that amount translate into your currency.?

$280USD is about $350NZD
lol, we get ripped off in New Zealand.. importing those parts is an option, but US to NZ shipping is crazy expensive.. you end up paying almost the same.

lol if you thought that was high, check out the price for a GTX 690 in NZ dollars http://pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=VGAEVG2690&name=EVGA-GeForce-GTX-690-4GB-DDR5-PCI-E-3.0-Video-card
It works out to $2030USD for a single GTX690.

lol and thats the reason my budget is $5K, + extras if needed.
Original build quote was $7K, using the 2011 with a 3960X i7.. but the 3960X is comparable to the 3930K, the price difference is stupendous

oops, www.pbtech.co.nz is the cheapest in NZ

 

[Raynoszs]

OMG.!!!

go with the i7-3770K and Z77, your set.
and then rob a second bank and ship me over (First-Class) please.
let me know when your ready...


I figure I can pack a suitcase full of hardware and sell when I get over there...
(might pay for the ticket anyways....)
:lol:

haha sure, will let you know.

So heres my final build, this is what I'll be ordering, Look good?
Intel i7 3770K $504.85
Asus P8Z77 $504.85
GTX 690 $2,528.85
Intel Liq Cool $136.85
G.skill Tri 4x4gb $549.70
Asus BW-12B1st $217.35
Intel 120gb 520 $293.25
WD Black 1TB HD $171.35
Silent Pro 1200w psu $458.85
Cool master HAF $274.85
Win 7 Pro 64bit $217.35

Total $5,858.10 NZD

 

[FinneousPJ]

What... that's depressing. I'll have a look when I get home there must be cheaper alternatives.

 

[Raynoszs]

What... that's depressing. I'll have a look when I get home there must be cheaper alternatives.

lol.. i know, I could probably wiggle that price down by $100 depending on the sales person, but that is the cheapest you will find in New Zealand.

 

[Raynoszs]

Best answer selected by Raynoszs.

 

[manofchalk]

Maybe import from Australia. Prices are pretty high here compared to the US as well. But I think its cheaper than NZ prices (Just a guess, not exactly sure about the exchange rate though).
http://www.pccasegear.com

Build is awesome by the way,

 

[Raynoszs]

Maybe import from Australia. Prices are pretty high here compared to the US as well. But I think its cheaper than NZ prices (Just a guess, not exactly sure about the exchange rate though).
http://www.pccasegear.com

Build is awesome by the way,

Yeah looked at that option.. the exchange rate from NZ to AUS is horrible, It ends up costing more.. lol It i were in Australia, I'd buy all my PC parts from USA. Australia dollar is stronger and after shipping, it'd be a bargin.

Another problem with importing is the Customs duty and GST I'd have to pay, which would add an additional 15% to the total cost.

EDIT
Calculating from that website you posted, the CPU would cost me $485NZD, after shipping and tax it'd cost more than sourcing from New Zealand.

 

[FinneousPJ]

haha sure, will let you know.

So heres my final build, this is what I'll be ordering, Look good?
Intel i7 3770K $504.85
Asus P8Z77 $504.85
GTX 690 $2,528.85
Intel Liq Cool $136.85
G.skill Tri 4x4gb $549.70
Asus BW-12B1st $217.35
Intel 120gb 520 $293.25
WD Black 1TB HD $171.35
Silent Pro 1200w psu $458.85
Cool master HAF $274.85
Win 7 Pro 64bit $217.35

Total $5,858.10 NZD

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($504.84 @ PB Technologies)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($56.35 @ PB Technologies)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($246.85 @ Computer Lounge)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($197.93 @ Ascent Technology)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($217.35 @ PB Technologies)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.00 @ Computer Lounge)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.00 @ Computer Lounge)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.00 @ Computer Lounge)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($198.99 @ Computer Lounge)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($216.77 @ Ascent Technology)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($217.35 @ PB Technologies)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($146.83 @ Ascent Technology)
Total: $3450.26
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

You're paying too much for a lot of things. I couldn't find a 690 but even if we added that it'd be at least 1k in savings.

 

[Raynoszs]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($504.84 @ PB Technologies)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($56.35 @ PB Technologies)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($246.85 @ Computer Lounge)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($197.93 @ Ascent Technology)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($217.35 @ PB Technologies)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.00 @ Computer Lounge)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.00 @ Computer Lounge)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.00 @ Computer Lounge)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($198.99 @ Computer Lounge)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($216.77 @ Ascent Technology)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($217.35 @ PB Technologies)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($146.83 @ Ascent Technology)
Total: $3450.26
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

You're paying too much for a lot of things. I couldn't find a 690 but even if we added that it'd be at least 1k in savings.

Cool cool,
CPU, same company
CPU Cooler - Hmm, I think I'd rather go with Intel liquid cooling since Im planning on overclocking this pc, would it make much of a difference?
Motherboard - Have used Gigabyte before, but for me, it failed, so this time round Im going with Asus
Hard drive - for SSD, I've read that Intel are the most reliable, So i dont mind paying the extra cash for reliability.
Hard Drive 2 - Seagate looks good
Video Card - Have already got the 690 on its way, special order etc
Case - I've read that the Coolermaster HAF is the best for keeping the system cool, I'll look into that Corsair 500R
Power supply - To be on the safe side, if I do quad SLI, I thought it be best to stick with the Cooler master silent pro gold 1200W or is that overkill?
Optical Drive- yeap, the same
Operating system - I had a good reason for going with Pro, but i shall review and see if Im just better off with Home premium, werent there artificial ram limits?

 

[FinneousPJ]

Intel liquid cooling will not perform any better and will likely be more loud. Self contained liquid cooling solutions aren't brilliant overall - go custom or go air IMO.

Any mobo can fail, that's not a reason to shoot yourself in the foot. Anyway here's a cheaper Asus: http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/part/asus-motherboard-p8z77vlk I see no reason for you to pay double that.

SSD - Crucial is highly rated worldwide.

Video card - that's great!

Case is mostly a matter of preference.

For quad SLI this is brilliant http://pcpartpicker.com/nz/part/seasonic-power-supply-x1050

Do you really need blu ray? IMO optical storage is history :lol:

I think premium is limited to 16 or 32 GB, more than you really need anyway.

 

[Raynoszs]

lol true true

I'll look into custom kits for liquid cooling.
Yeah, I've had 3 gigabyte motherboards and all of them failed in a relatively short time whereas the asus ones i've had are still going - just too old now lol

SSD, cool, Crucial it is!

Case - yeap, the sales person was trying to sell me the Silenco, which looks decent but I wasnt sure about its cooling properties

PSU - I've never heard of SeaSonic but will research their product and see how it compares.

Optical - lol yeah, got a sony hard drive HD camcorder, so I transfer videos to hard drive and then encode and burn to blu-ray, most of it is for my dad (he must think I have heaps of spare time). Currently this process takes a while, so i leave the pc running over night and its usually done by daytime.

Yeah, I'm only getting 16gigs of ram, anything more than that is useless for me at this stage, so yeah, home premium it is.

Thanks for the input dude.

 

[FinneousPJ]

I hope you're also considering the cheaper motherboard - you won't lose any performance at all.

SeaSonic is the #1 PSU manufacturer in the world and makes many of the best rated PSUs for other brands as well, like Corsair.

EDIT: I guess their own brand is quite underrated :lol: