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May 13, 2012 10:18:06 AM

Hello guys
My current pc is

- gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3
- Athlon II 635 2.9
- ATI HD 3850 512MB DDR3 (Stock clocks)
- 2x kingstone 2 GB DDR3 ram @1333 Mhz running at dual channel

Now i have to option for upgrade with exactly the same price
first

- gigabyte B75M -D3H
- Intel core i5-2500K or the ivy bridge when its available in my country
- Sapphire HD 7850

The second is

-FX-8150 (compitable with my current mobo with a bios upgrade)
-GTX 670

Which is better the first or the second?

as I totally got confused when GTX 670 released
My PSU is capable to run any of them is thermal take 650 watt

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Anonymous
May 13, 2012 10:22:15 AM

Thats a tough decision i would probably go with the FX proccesor since you have the mobo already and a 670 on that proccessor will easily beat out the i5-2500 with the 7850
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May 13, 2012 10:22:21 AM

I'll go with the first option.
Thermaltake aren't the best PSU makers out there, but I'm sure it should be fine for a HD 7850 and a 2500k.
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Anonymous
May 13, 2012 10:24:53 AM

really?you would go with a 7850 over a gtx 670?Your losing a few fps with the proccessor but your gaining way more with the gtx 670 over the 7850
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May 13, 2012 10:27:01 AM

I'd like to stay away from a Bulldozer chip. My opinion.

I know the numbers, but I'd like to know the OP's resolution and what he's planning to do with it, like what games he's going to play. :) 
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Anonymous
May 13, 2012 10:28:15 AM

and if its a thermaltake toughpower those are some of the best psu's they make if its not then ya its not very good.
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May 13, 2012 10:30:51 AM

Anonymous said:
Thats a tough decision i would probably go with the FX proccesor since you have the mobo already and a 670 on that proccessor will easily beat out the i5-2500 with the 7850

I wont sell my old mobo so either to use it or give it to my brother so my budget is fixed whether I used the old motherboard or not

- I can change my PSU if need as I got plenty

I have 1080p monitor playing games like:

mostly playing: real time strategy games (dota 2 ,HON .. etc) generals 2 when it is released I must play those games at minimum 50 - 60 FPS
less playing: diablo 3 and all the fps games BF3 ,crysis

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Anonymous
May 13, 2012 10:32:54 AM

I dont know this is one area where id deffinetly go with the fx proccessor over the I5 without question.The gtx 670 will more then make up for anything the fx might lose when in real world gaming wouldnt be much.The fx will not bottleneck a 670 either.If hes playing below 1080p then either decision would be good.
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May 13, 2012 10:33:30 AM

RTS games like those really doesn't need much GPU power, but rather CPU.
And FPS games like that are the ones that need GPU power.

A 2500k and a HD 7850 would suffice you quite well, without the need for a new PSU.
But if you're keen on a GTX670 and a FX-8150, then you're going to have to get a better PSU.
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Anonymous
May 13, 2012 10:34:08 AM

supersonic977 said:
I wont sell my old mobo so either to use it or give it to my brother so my budget is fixed whether I used the old motherboard or not

- I can change my PSU if need as I got plenty

I have 1080p monitor playing games like:

mostly playing: real time strategy games (dota 2 ,HON .. etc) generals 2 when it is released I must play those games at minimum 50 - 60 FPS
less playing: diablo 3 and all the fps games BF3 ,crysis


FX and gtx 670 all the way without question..
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Anonymous
May 13, 2012 10:34:57 AM

Gman450 said:
RTS games like those really doesn't need much GPU power, but rather CPU.
And FPS games like that are the ones that need GPU power.

A 2500k and a HD 7850 would suffice you quite well, without the need for a new PSU.
But if you're keen on a GTX670 and a FX-8150, then you're going to have to get a better PSU.


If he has a toughpower that psu is plenty
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May 13, 2012 10:36:32 AM

Anonymous said:
If he has a toughpower that psu is plenty

Forgot on that one. :) 
Most likely it is.
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Anonymous
May 13, 2012 10:37:56 AM

Bottom line if your looking for way higher performance the fx and 670 gtx dont do a 7850 your not going to see much of a difference processor wize atleast nowhere near the difference between a 670 and 7850.And gman trust me rts games take alot of graphical power especially when theres alot going on onscreen.
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Anonymous
May 13, 2012 10:39:18 AM

either decision isnt bad really but i would just go with the higher performance.top end graphic cards are more expensive then cpu's id get the higher priced part first.
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May 13, 2012 10:39:22 AM

I agree with you on that one. During heavy fights, it does get a little laggy.
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May 13, 2012 10:41:08 AM

supersonic977 said:
Hello guys
My current pc is

- gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3
- Athlon II 635 2.9
- ATI HD 3850 512MB DDR3 (Stock clocks)
- 2x kingstone 2 GB DDR3 ram @1333 Mhz running at dual channel

Now i have to option for upgrade with exactly the same price
first

- gigabyte B75M -D3H
- Intel core i5-2500K or the ivy bridge when its available in my country
- Sapphire HD 7850

The second is

-FX-8150 (compitable with my current mobo with a bios upgrade)
-GTX 670

Which is better the first or the second?

as I totally got confused when GTX 670 released
My PSU is capable to run any of them is thermal take 650 watt

That's an AM2+ motherboard you got there. It won't take a Bulldozer processor which is AM3+ so you really have no option for an FX-8150 without buying an AM3+ motherboard. Since you are going to buy a new motherboard after all, then it should be the 15-2500K option for you. 7850 is not bad at all. A lot of people will be happy for less. But I see that your choice of motherboard is single PCIex16. I suggest you add a little more for a motherboard that have 2xPCie slots that can take in x8+x8 at the least so you can get a 2nd card for future upgrade.
Something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 13, 2012 10:44:17 AM

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=288
This benchmark is an example of what is holding me from buying The FX processor
If u notice the starcraft 2 performance is bad with FX and I also found another bench for skyrim showing that the fx 8150 get about 40 fps and the i5 get +60 also gta iv
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May 13, 2012 10:45:43 AM

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=288
This benchmark is an example of what is holding me from buying The FX processor
If u notice the starcraft 2 performance is bad with FX and I also found another bench for skyrim showing that the fx 8150 get about 40 fps and the i5 get +60 also gta iv suffers

BTW my mobo is am3+
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May 13, 2012 10:46:04 AM

Pretty much one of the reasons I'm staying away or not recommending the FX chipsets to members around here.
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Anonymous
May 13, 2012 10:56:38 AM

the problem is the reviews dont do the fx proccessor justice.Ill look into a video a guy posted that showed very close performance between the 2.Im not sure if they have been working on getting th performance up or what.Also the fx 8150 overclocks to 5 ghz which isnt shabby at all.If that board is not compatible with that fx then I5 2500K is the route to go.I5 is deffinetly faster but things could change when games start utilizing more then 4 cores in which case i expect the 8150 to gain ground or even surpass it since it has 8 core.
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May 13, 2012 11:20:16 AM

My mobo supports FX-8150 also I will never overclock the CPU or the GPU
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May 13, 2012 11:57:49 AM

supersonic977 said:
check this
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...
This is my mobo U may check the CPU supported list

I see. In your original posts, you put gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3. That one does not support FX.
You should put gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3P. The "P" does make a difference.

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