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Anonymous
August 14, 2005 10:38:27 PM

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How reliable is the GPRS/EDGE Network?.After several weeks of being able to
reliably connect at reasonable speeds the last 24 hours has resulted in
either no connection (Connection Manager can't find a data network) or a
near zero connection speeds when it does connect. I don't imagine Cingular
would happen to have a network status webpage , right?

Tnx

Jeff
Anonymous
August 14, 2005 10:38:28 PM

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If you install Sony Ericsson's Wireless Manager, it displays current
download speed. I have both Sony Ericsson's Wireless Manager and
Cingular's Communication Manager installed on my laptop. Below is the
link to download Sony Ericsson's Wireless Manager program:

http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=us&lc=en&ver=400...
Anonymous
August 14, 2005 10:50:55 PM

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I'm sorry, I was replying to the last part of Lars' post.

Regarding your question, you may need to reboot your laptop. When I
used Cingular Connection Manager, I sometimes had situations simular to
yours, and had to reboot to be able to reconnect. Cingular Connection
Manager software is buggy IMHO. The Sony Ericsson Wireless Manager has
a reset card on shutdown feature, that generally removes the need to
reboot when you run into a problem. You can download Sony Ericsson's
Wireless Manager from the following site:

http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=us&lc=en&ver=400...
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Anonymous
August 15, 2005 2:52:55 AM

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jlp skrev:

> How reliable is the GPRS/EDGE Network?.After several weeks of being able to
> reliably connect at reasonable speeds the last 24 hours has resulted in

Had a talk with my operator (Telenor) and they said I could expect
between 100 and 200 kbps depending on the capasity in the area and the
load on the network. GRPS and EDGE uses free capasity on the network
(clever, we pay them for using the time that would be wasted else :-)

So in Oslo at daytime with high traffic I get from 80 to 110 kbps :-(
But in the less populated areas with less trafikk I get 200 kbps :-)

AND there is no indication of speed (need to run a speed test).
Neither in the Windows connect message NOR on the phone display.

--
Lars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ 7297605
WinXP, Asus P4PE, 2.53 GHz, Asus V8420 (Ti4200), SB-Live!
Anonymous
August 15, 2005 5:33:19 AM

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"GomJabbar" <dkbatson@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1124064609.501122.89520@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> If you install Sony Ericsson's Wireless Manager, it displays current
> download speed. I have both Sony Ericsson's Wireless Manager and
> Cingular's Communication Manager installed on my laptop. Below is the
> link to download Sony Ericsson's Wireless Manager program:
>
> http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=us&lc=en&ver=400...
>

I was not concerned with download speed, as I said when it works the speed
is
adequate....my question was around why the speed has been zeor for the last
48hrs
here......is the network reliable or does it have periods of extended down
time ?
Anonymous
August 15, 2005 11:15:13 AM

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In <DcMLe.6038$WD.3316@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> on Sun, 14 Aug 2005
18:38:27 GMT, "jlp" <salmo@teleport.com> wrote:

>How reliable is the GPRS/EDGE Network?

Good, but not great -- it generally works well, but there are issues from time
to time.

>After several weeks of being able to
>reliably connect at reasonable speeds the last 24 hours has resulted in
>either no connection (Connection Manager can't find a data network) or a
>near zero connection speeds when it does connect.

We recently had a few days of similar problems here in Northern California.

>I don't imagine Cingular
>would happen to have a network status webpage , right?

Right. But you can call Customer Service and find out if there is a problem
in your area (or otherwise report it).

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
August 15, 2005 11:18:56 AM

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In <HaOLe.33$tY4.26@amstwist00> on Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:52:55 +0200, Lars-Erik
Østerud <.@.> wrote:

>jlp skrev:
>
>> How reliable is the GPRS/EDGE Network?.After several weeks of being able to
>> reliably connect at reasonable speeds the last 24 hours has resulted in
>
>Had a talk with my operator (Telenor) and they said I could expect
>between 100 and 200 kbps depending on the capasity in the area and the
>load on the network.

Actually up to about 150 Kbps, on Cingular at least.

>GRPS and EDGE uses free capasity on the network

They actually use allocated capacity.

>(clever, we pay them for using the time that would be wasted else :-)

Not really.

>So in Oslo at daytime with high traffic I get from 80 to 110 kbps :-(
>But in the less populated areas with less trafikk I get 200 kbps :-)

Really? How did you measure that? I've never seen more than about 150 Kbps
with an EGPRS Class 10 device on Cingular.

>AND there is no indication of speed (need to run a speed test).
>Neither in the Windows connect message NOR on the phone display.

Windows connect shows the port speed, not the data throughout speed. However,
Windows will report network throughput (in different ways depending on
version).

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
August 15, 2005 11:20:03 AM

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In <1124064609.501122.89520@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> on 14 Aug 2005
17:10:09 -0700, "GomJabbar" <dkbatson@earthlink.net> wrote:

>If you install Sony Ericsson's Wireless Manager, it displays current
>download speed. ...

It does? Where?

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
August 15, 2005 5:51:22 PM

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:5iXLe.9228$p%3.36921@typhoon.sonic.net...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <DcMLe.6038$WD.3316@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> on Sun, 14 Aug
> 2005
> 18:38:27 GMT, "jlp" <salmo@teleport.com> wrote:
>
>>How reliable is the GPRS/EDGE Network?
>
> Good, but not great -- it generally works well, but there are issues from
> time
> to time.
>
>>After several weeks of being able to
>>reliably connect at reasonable speeds the last 24 hours has resulted in
>>either no connection (Connection Manager can't find a data network) or a
>>near zero connection speeds when it does connect.
>
> We recently had a few days of similar problems here in Northern
> California.
>
>>I don't imagine Cingular
>>would happen to have a network status webpage , right?
>
> Right. But you can call Customer Service and find out if there is a
> problem
> in your area (or otherwise report it).
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;



Possibly we share some portion of the same network....I'm a few hundred
miles north
of you....

Let's hope the reason for the slowdowns was for "system upgrades"

jlp
Anonymous
August 16, 2005 3:25:12 AM

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John Navas wrote:

>>After several weeks of being able to
>>reliably connect at reasonable speeds the last 24 hours has resulted in
>>either no connection (Connection Manager can't find a data network) or a
>>near zero connection speeds when it does connect.
>
>
> We recently had a few days of similar problems here in Northern California.

huh... Now that's it's being mentioned, we were having problems in the
NY/NJ area as well. My RAZR would boot up with a GPRS symbol once it
regsitered wiht the network, but after a while the symbol would
disappear and all GPRS connections would fail. Usually rebooting the
phone would restore the connection, for while until it dropped again,
requiring anohter reboot.

It happened all last week, but so far this week, I haven't noticed any
similar issues anymore.




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Anonymous
August 23, 2005 2:29:06 AM

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jlp wrote:
> How reliable is the GPRS/EDGE Network?.After several weeks of being able to
> reliably connect at reasonable speeds the last 24 hours has resulted in
> either no connection (Connection Manager can't find a data network) or a
> near zero connection speeds when it does connect. I don't imagine Cingular
> would happen to have a network status webpage , right?
>
> Tnx
>
> Jeff
>
>
I find that my EDGE card for PC performance has really deteriorated. To
be totally useless. Clearly false and misleading advertising and fails
the test of suitability for intended purpose. I am a former AT&T
wireless user. The story I get is that they are cutting down service
for former AT&T customers so that we have to open a new account with
Cingular, buy new equipment and sign a new contract. I find Verizon has
far superior service in the mid-Atlantic area including a 1 Gbit
wideband service in DC and NY. So, if I have to change carriers, then
it looks better to go to the better carrier.

Jim
!