Price Question: EVGA GTX 580 Superclocked

[Landsharkk]

With the new NVIDIA cards coming out I'm hoping for a price drop on the GTX570 and 580 cards. Right now the GTX 580 seems to be hovering between $420 and $475 (depending on exact card) on most online stores (newegg, amazon, etc).

However, I found a New in Box EVGA GTX 580 Superclocked for sale locally for $375.

My question is, is the $375 worth jumping on or should I wait for the prices to drop on their own in a month or two? I am not sure how far the retail prices will drop in the next couple months.

I'm trying to not pass up a good deal.

Thank you!

 

[Chainzsaw]

Hello,

I dont normally condone buying old tech

Can you scrape together 25$ more?

How about a GTX 670 399.99$:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127675

It beats the old GTX 580, as well as the 7950 and the 7970 as long as they are all stock. Plus it is much more power efficient.

What are your complete system specifications? So we can give you a better reccomendation.

Also what resolution do you game at?

 

[17seconds]

I wouldn't expect any big discounts on the GTX 580. They no longer make them and they are just going to sell what they have until they are all gone. $375 seems like the typical discounted price to me, as most that I have seen are under $400.

The GTX 580 will cover all your gaming needs, easily, with great framerates, at maximum settings. If you can scrape together the extra $25 for a GTX 670, that would be better, but a GTX 580 is still a great choice.

 

[Landsharkk]

I should have included my specs in the first post.

First of all, I'm trying to only upgrade the video card and not anything else. I know I will have a bottleneck with my CPU, but I'm ok with that for now (will upgrade later) and my other concern is my PSU to make sure I can handle anything over a GTX 580.

Here is my current setup (this is 4.5 years old now):

1 x XFX MB-N780-ISH9 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i
1 x XFX PVT98WYDFH GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
1 x OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI 700W ATX12V S
1 x Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor BX80570E8400
1 x Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
1 x LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
1 x ASUS Silent Knight II 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler
1 x Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic (this is an exception as it's actually 6+ years old now, but still works great).

All on Windows 7 64-bit.

This is running a dual-screen setup: 24" LCD @ 1920 x 1080 and 19" LCD at 1280x1024.

I game at 1920x1080.

The system runs anything I toss at it. Of course, I'm having to run most modern games with a mix of low/medium settings. I'm feeling the effects of older 9800GTX+ card now. My next video card should last me another 4.5 years

 

[Chainzsaw]

Your PSU however is powerful enough for the GTX 670 - which uses much less power than the GTX 580.

I would still go for the 670 - that way you could upgrade your whole system and move over your new video card to a new system if you plan on building within the next 6 months to a year.

 

[Chainzsaw]

670's power consumption from :

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-review,3200-14.html

 

[Landsharkk]

Thank you for the power consumption graph. That's always one of my worries when building or changing PC hardware. I'm glad to see the newer nvidia cards using a lot less power than older ones.

The 670 does look like a fantastic card. I found a Galaxy GeForce GTX 670 2 GB GDDR5 for sale on amazon for $400 or the same card on newegg for $409. I'm not familiar with the Galaxy brand, but poking around reviews they seem like a solid company with most of their cards getting 4 or 5 stars. All other GTX 670 cards seem to be out of stock on newegg.

 

[Chainzsaw]

Hey no problem.

Well not too sure of Galaxy, however the reviews seem ok. With any brand - you can get bad cards (if that is your worry).

 

[Landsharkk]

Also, my motherboard supports up to PCI Express 2.0 x16, but the GTX 670's are PCI Express 3.0 cards. Will those cards run on the slower PCI-E slots? I'm wondering how much that bottleneck combined with my older CPU and ram will effect the performance.

 

[monsta]

No they wont run slower , there is no difference and you will not lose any performance.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/

Grab the 670 , its a great card, if you go with the 580 you would of wished you got the 670.

 

[Chainzsaw]

No. This current generation of cards do not really max out PCIE 2 at all. There might be a 1-2% difference.

Your main bottleneck as you mentioned is your CPU.

 

[monsta]

Yes the cpu will be a bottleneck, you could also consider grabbing a second hand Core 2 Quad from ebay with decent clocks. A Q9650 would work great , but they arent cheap unfortunately.

 

[cuecuemore]

Haven't read all the replies, but a 670 stomps a 580 for just a little bit more, that's what I recommend.

 

[Landsharkk]

After doing a bunch of reading and comparison, I think I'm going with the GTX 670. The gigabyte one is very well OC'd for the same price as several others, I might end up with that. Really though, it seems any GTX 670 card I end up with will be really good.

Now I just have to wait for newegg to get some in stock. I can't find the $399 deal anywhere else so far.

 

[cuecuemore]

Rave reviews on this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782
In stock, and hard to go wrong with EVGA (or any GTX 670).

 

[Landsharkk]

Rave reviews on this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782
In stock, and hard to go wrong with EVGA (or any GTX 670).

Thank you for the link! Also, ironic that you linked to that specific card, because I bought it last night.

Just to conclude my original post, I ended up ordering the EVGA GTX 670 direct from EVGA. Newegg sold out literally while I was reading the product description.

 

[monsta]

Well done , nice purchase!

If you do encounter bottlenecking look for a Core2Quad on ebay to replace the E8400, overclock it and you should be fine.
Sell off the E8400 and put that money towards it. That way you can keep that system for longer before your next major upgrade.