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Anonymous
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May 26, 2005 11:27:04 AM

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Refresher for the newbies: I play a 60 Tauren Hunter on Cenarion Circle, a
roleplaying server (the RP server part is important).

Today, one of the Alliance's big guilds wanted to celebrate one of their
members going away to fight in Iraq. So all of the celebrants quit their
guild and made some fake guild whose name was all in caps and included
"GANKFEST", then once they were done, they went back to their real guild.
Personally I think they did this to avoid giving their real guild a bad
reputation, but of course that didn't work.

Here is what they did ... on the GANKFEST guild they went to Bloodhoof,
Brill, and Razor Hill in a totally OOC gankfest. Nevermind that on my
server we have had a truce on the newbie zones for MONTHS ... they ignored
all of that and pissed everyone off just in the name of one of their
members going off to Iraq.

As a result a LOT of people got pissed off, and some number are even
planning to leave the server (up to ten by some counts), citing that this
simply isn't what they were looking for in a roleplaying server.

Here are some relevant forum posts ...

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-re...
cenarioncircle&t=79904&p=1&tmp=1#post79904

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-re...
cenarioncircle&t=79395&p=1&tmp=1

#post79395http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-re...
cenarioncircle&t=79661&p=1&tmp=1#post79661


Some of you may not understand what the big deal is ... if you don't play
on a roleplaying server, anyway. If you still don't understand I'll try to
explain it further.

--
~ Cyde Weys ~

Mana du vortes, mana du vortes
Aeria gloris, aeria gloris
Anonymous
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May 26, 2005 11:27:05 AM

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I don't see this as a problem, these people should think of it as a
roleplaying event and stay in character, it is WARcraft afterall. I'd
guess it mixed things up a little? That's a good thing!

Of course, condoning it through the Iraq fiasco is a bit off the cuff
and doesn't really make any sense!
Anonymous
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May 26, 2005 11:27:05 AM

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"Cyde Weys" <cyde@umd.edu> wrote in message
news:Xns966223155B4722galopagosterrapincy@199.45.49.11...
> Refresher for the newbies: I play a 60 Tauren Hunter on Cenarion Circle, a
> roleplaying server (the RP server part is important).
>
> Today, one of the Alliance's big guilds wanted to celebrate one of their
> members going away to fight in Iraq. So all of the celebrants quit their
> guild and made some fake guild whose name was all in caps and included
> "GANKFEST", then once they were done, they went back to their real guild.
> Personally I think they did this to avoid giving their real guild a bad
> reputation, but of course that didn't work.
>
> Here is what they did ... on the GANKFEST guild they went to Bloodhoof,
> Brill, and Razor Hill in a totally OOC gankfest. Nevermind that on my
> server we have had a truce on the newbie zones for MONTHS ... they ignored
> all of that and pissed everyone off just in the name of one of their
> members going off to Iraq.
>
> As a result a LOT of people got pissed off, and some number are even
> planning to leave the server (up to ten by some counts),

Would these people include Sean Penn and Barbara Streisand
and Ed Asner and Martin Sheen and all the other folks that
swore that if Bush won they would leave the United States?
Twice?

I wouldn't worry too much about it, really. Think about it...when
there are major server outages, what happens to the RP servers
that happen to remain up? Newbie Tauren named "Mootard"
run around trying to level as fast as they can and RP'ing taking
a dump on the Earth Mother.

Seriously...if this is how somebody going off to war wants to
"go out" before losing privilages for a while, I'm all for it. If
this is how a graduating class of MIT wants to celebrate their
degrees, let 'em. By nature, it's a short-term not-repeated
event. Like the guy with the exploding pet exploit in the
auction house...just treat it as server trouble that is fixed in
a short amount of time (or even join in...make an alt and
fight 'em) and move on.

The worst thing would be letting some griefers know how
much this bothers you, pulling hordes (no pun intended)
into your server just to watch you whine. Flowers of
Happiness, meet the Horde...
:-)
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Anonymous
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May 26, 2005 11:27:05 AM

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Vladesch wrote:

> Heaven and earth? Why not just name them.

Actually no, the guilty party was Soul Reckoning. No need to make
assumptions. I may have many things against HaE but as far as I know
Grey (their guild leader) wouldn't go in for such a thing.

So you play on Cenarion Circle? May I ask what your character's name
is? I'm Cyde, Horde-side. I hope to meet some day!
Anonymous
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May 26, 2005 11:27:05 AM

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Jonny Barr wrote:
> I don't see this as a problem, these people should think of it as a
> roleplaying event and stay in character, it is WARcraft afterall. I'd
> guess it mixed things up a little? That's a good thing!

These actions were done in a very extreme OOC manner and violated our
established rules of the server (no raiding of newbie towns) that ALL
of the high level players know about. How do you RP when you're
getting attacked by people in a guild named "KAYLINAs GANKFEST"? From
an in-character standpoint, it'd be like trying to act normally if an
alien suddenly showed up in your living room and started talking to
you. There are people who do do RP raids and they are responded to in
character, but OOC raids just pissed everyone off.

It certainly wasn't a good thing as it caused a LOT of hatred to ensue,
and caused at least ten people, two of whom I actually care about, to
quit the server for good. These were good roleplayers who made
Cenarion Circle a better place to play on, and a single night of
revealing the true nature of some people caused them to not want to
play any more.

> Of course, condoning it through the Iraq fiasco is a bit off the cuff
> and doesn't really make any sense!

Agreed, the whole Iraq thing is entirely irrelevant and them using it
as an excuse just makes the whole matter even worse. They knew what
they were doing was wrong and they knew it was going to piss off a lot
of people AND THEY JUST DIDN'T CARE. It's more about the utter
disrespect for other players on the server than their actual actions.
Anonymous
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May 26, 2005 11:39:32 AM

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"Cyde Weys" <cyde@umd.edu> wrote in message
news:Xns966223155B4722galopagosterrapincy@199.45.49.11...
> Refresher for the newbies: I play a 60 Tauren Hunter on Cenarion Circle, a
> roleplaying server (the RP server part is important).
>
> Today, one of the Alliance's big guilds wanted to celebrate one of their
> members going away to fight in Iraq. So all of the celebrants quit their
> guild and made some fake guild whose name was all in caps and included
> "GANKFEST", then once they were done, they went back to their real guild.
> Personally I think they did this to avoid giving their real guild a bad
> reputation, but of course that didn't work.
>
> Here is what they did ... on the GANKFEST guild they went to Bloodhoof,
> Brill, and Razor Hill in a totally OOC gankfest. Nevermind that on my
> server we have had a truce on the newbie zones for MONTHS ... they ignored
> all of that and pissed everyone off just in the name of one of their
> members going off to Iraq.
>
> As a result a LOT of people got pissed off, and some number are even
> planning to leave the server (up to ten by some counts), citing that this
> simply isn't what they were looking for in a roleplaying server.
>

Heaven and earth? Why not just name them,
Anonymous
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May 26, 2005 12:05:12 PM

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'Any one else find it hystirical (sic) that Soul Reck decided to gank
lowby
towns before another marine went to gank RL lowbies? i did.'

Hehe... I think that just about sums it up!
I'm surprised you didn't have problems with this before, it sounds like
they where just looking for an excuse to 'spice up' their Warcraft
lives, at the cost of others of course, parallels drawn to the U.S.
military? That 's maybe dependant upon the individuals.

With our younger Warcraft companions combined with a more casual MMO
player running around Azeroth I'm not really surprised there's enough
of a cluster of OOC/griefers/buggars (delete as appropriate) players on
every server. Perhaps everyone over reacted a bit here, those leaving
for other servers may not find their perfect server after all.

As with everything, there's usually some jerk attempting to compromise
your enjoyment for their own self-indulgence, ignore it and continue
playing for the purpose you started with in the first place... fun!
Anonymous
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May 26, 2005 10:13:49 PM

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"Cyde Weys" <cyde@umd.edu> wrote in message
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>
> and caused at least ten people, two of whom I actually care about, to
> quit the server for good. These were good roleplayers who made
> Cenarion Circle a better place to play on, and a single night of
> revealing the true nature of some people caused them to not want to
> play any more.

That is really lame... it's a GAME for godsakes! Some people act like jerks
for one night and 10 people leave the server? I guess I'm glad I'm not on a
RP server. Sounds like a bunch of people that take this game waaay too
seriously.

My guess is they will be back, they proclaim to "leave for good" but it's
just so much melodrama.
Anonymous
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May 27, 2005 11:32:08 PM

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McDLT wrote:
> "Cyde Weys" <cyde@umd.edu> wrote in message
> news:1117114806.276105.46630@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>>and caused at least ten people, two of whom I actually care about, to
>>quit the server for good. These were good roleplayers who made
>>Cenarion Circle a better place to play on, and a single night of
>>revealing the true nature of some people caused them to not want to
>>play any more.
>
> That is really lame... it's a GAME for godsakes! Some people act like jerks
> for one night and 10 people leave the server? I guess I'm glad I'm not on a
> RP server. Sounds like a bunch of people that take this game waaay too
> seriously.

I can't imagine that anyone who displayed such an astonishing degree of
whiny crybabyishness could have made ANY server "a better place to play
on". But that's just me. I have an abandoned character on Cenarion
Circle that I haven't played for months because I found the whining on
the RP servers far more immersion-destroying than any behaviour I've yet
witnessed on a PvP server.

> My guess is they will be back, they proclaim to "leave for good" but it's
> just so much melodrama.

Oh, you can bet your life on that.

Cheers!
David...
!