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July 8, 2012 7:05:57 AM

CPU Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz Quad-Core $283.99

CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing $34.9p

Motherboard ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 $127.86

Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 $58.37

Hard Drive Corsair Force Series GT 120GB 2.5" SSD $89.98

Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" SSD $89.99

Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB $417.55

Case Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower $59.99

Power Supply Thermaltake 650W ATX12V / EPS12V $79.99

Optical Drive Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer $55.35

1.2k total. Watcha guys think?

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July 8, 2012 7:44:03 AM

Most of the stuff you are buying is last generation ....

CPU - As a gaming rig, the hyperthreading on the 2600k is unneeded. The 2600k is without a market niche at the moment as the price difference to the 2700k is negligible.....However, if its a gaming rig, HT is going to waste and I'd get a 2500k or current generation 3570k

Savings $54
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MoBo - Current generation is Z77, not that here's anything wrong w/ Z68 or P67 at this point what the new generations offer, isn't likely to be of concern for several years.

Your MoBo / CPU Combo was $412, this one is $5 cheaper at $407 and is a huge step up in quality and features.
Asus P8Z77-V PRO w/ i5-3570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

At 1866, I'd take the Corsair / Mushkin low profile over the GSkill tall toothy things that will hit ya CPU cooler.

$60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD- Why 2 different SSD's and no HD ..... I'd consider a hybrid SSD/HD if budget is tight.
Seagate Momentus 750 GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

With IB, I'd move up a little in price to the 212's big brother, the Hyper 612 PWM
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Asus toasts the EVGA
http://www.guru3d.com/article/evga-geforce-gtx-670-sc-r...
EVGA SC Boost Clock is 1046 outta the box....stable at 1200 Mhz
EVGA SC gets 3DMark Score of 8691 outta the box and 9443 OC'd
Idle temp is 29C / load temp is 78C
Noise is 37 dBA Idle / 43 dBA under load

http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-geforce-gtx-670-dire...
Asus TOP Boost Clock is 1137 outta the box .... stable at 1280 Mhz
Asus gets 3DMark Score of 9340 outta the box and 9839 OC'd
Idle temp is 30C / load temp is 72C
Noise is 37 dBA Idle / 38 dBA under load

That makes the Asus 7% faster outta the box than the EVGA SC, 6C cooler and almost 1/4 as loud under load (every 3 dBA is a doubling of sound level). The FTW is slightly faster than the SC, leaving the Asus model w/ just a 5% performance advantage

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'd really try and move up to a lil bit bugger case .....and one with USB 3.0

This case is the same price, but still a bit small .... has USB 3 tho
$60 Antec Gamer Series One Illusion
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec 900 V3
$100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair 500R
$125 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Thermaltake 650 won't do two cards in SLI.....for $5 more you can get an XFX 850 watter of higher quality
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 8, 2012 11:33:54 AM

JackNayorPE, i wouldnt fit a asus 670 into the antec one series. their max size is 10.5in which is right up against it

heres my take on the build. use the SSD as a cache for the hard drive and set up intel smart response

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bCe7
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July 8, 2012 9:18:14 PM

Thanks for all the quick and thoughtful replies. In retrospect, my initial post was not well thought out or worded at all. Let me start over:

I'm totally new at this. My understanding of computer components is limited to the extensive research i've done on my own over the past 2 weeks. I've refined this build to what it is now via another forum, but thought to get some more opinions. I'll take a look at your suggestions and see what i want to change.

PS i forgot to mention i was choosing between those two SSDs, i went with the Corsair. Hope to build this in 2 weeks
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July 8, 2012 10:41:54 PM

The 650W is enough for two 670s at stock, but OCed, 750W is all you need.
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July 8, 2012 10:53:27 PM

Alright here's what i got. I'm building this computer cuz i'm sick of underpowered - overpriced laptops that only last 2-4 years. 2 weeks ago i knew nothing about computer hardware, though i've always been into computers. I want this baby to GAME (BF3, rift) on ultra settings with no lag issues and especially no cooling issues. I run CAD software as well.

Budget: up to $1200 give or take $100

DO NOT INCLUDE IN BUDGET: keyboard, mouse, windows 7, microsoft office, monitor, speakers.

Concerns: part compatibility. buildability. cooling. GPU power. bottlenecking.

Approximate purchase date: July 28 in USA, build in USA, use in USA

MAYBE overclocking, don't want the desktop to lack in performance ever. Want it to last a long time. I am not looking to do multiple graphics cards so no SLI or Crossfire or whatever.

BUILD:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bE2w
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bE2w/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bE2w/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($199.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Corsair Force Series GT 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($407.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1194.45
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

I never paid much attention to the manufacturers...you're saying that ASUS makes a better GTX 670 than EVGA? I don't think the 612 (cpu cooler) is compatible with my setup.
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July 8, 2012 10:56:16 PM

The Pro is not worth it over the V-LK.
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July 8, 2012 11:13:43 PM

Yeah the motherboard is pricey....what's your justification azeem?
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July 8, 2012 11:37:34 PM

Best answer selected by hxcheyo.
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July 9, 2012 12:55:06 AM

The Z77 Pro isn't even worth what it costs. The Asrock Extreme6 Z77 is $50 less and would give you similar performance. The Z77 Pro has the worst price/performance ratio of the Z77 boards, pretty much all Asus boards are like that.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-extreme6-z77a-g...

Go with the Antec EA650 not the Thermaltake, it'll be cheaper and better.
http://www.amazon.com/Antec-EarthWatts-EA-650D-Green-BR...

This SSD, cheaper off Amazon and just the same speed.
http://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Chronos-2-5-Inch-Solid-MK...

... The Hyper 612 is compatible..
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July 9, 2012 2:22:36 AM

p8z77-v LK is the best bang for the buck or the gigabyte z77x-ud3h. the Lk board has all the asus features while being priced as well as the extreme4
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July 9, 2012 4:48:58 AM

Alright here's what i got after reviewing all of your comments. Thank you especially aznshinobi for keeping up with this and giving me thoughtful critique and links.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bFEf
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bFEf/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bFEf/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($49.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($128.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Mushkin Chronos 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($95.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($407.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Antec 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($88.74 @ Mwave)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1119.21
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

Ignore the price of the power supply, i know it's cheaper on amazon but pctpartpicker wouldn't pull the amazon price and i'm buying in 2 weeks anyway.

The motherboard is a tie between: the p88z77-V LK and the Gigabyte z77x-ud3h

Which one? They both fit in my budget...which has more usb ports (do the usbs even come from the motherboard?)
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July 9, 2012 5:03:19 AM

Very likely that I'll scoop up that combo if it's still priced at $347.98 from Newegg when i go to buy components in 2 weeks. If it's not for some reason, i'll have to settle for either the p8z77-V LK or the Gigabyte z77x-ud3h (still don't know which one)

As far as my cpu is concerned, i'm sort of in love with intel i7. If i'm running CAD software and ultra settings mmo's and such, is there an i7 out there priced around the one i chose for comparable or better performance? Suggestions here?
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July 9, 2012 5:04:34 AM

You mean the ASUS P8Z77-V Pro is not worth it? Cuz when you just said Pro, I assumed Pro3 lol. Silly me.
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July 9, 2012 6:10:24 AM

Nope, No i7 is less than $280 I'm pretty sure, no SB/IVB at least. The i7 would help very little if anything at all in your Ultra setting gaming. But for CAD. Perhaps. I've heard that it's not a huge deal but not very sure. The i5 3570K has similar performance to the older i7 2600K so you should be fine. Honestly The i5 3570K will be more than capable to run CAD above average and smoothly.
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July 9, 2012 10:46:21 AM

the LK board has all the asus features. the gigabyte one has all the needed features.

doesnt asrock cheap out on their caps to get down to that price point.
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July 9, 2012 9:31:47 PM

Just so that i understand you correctly: the gigabyte mobo has what i need and the LK mobo has what i need and more? What "features" depend on the mobo anyway? I know the usb ports come from the mobo but that's about it...
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July 9, 2012 10:54:35 PM

you cant go wrong with either board. LK is just cheaper
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July 10, 2012 8:27:24 AM

Couldn't the same logic about cheaping out on caps be used for Asus then on the LK board?

The Asrock Extreme4 Z77 with the combo is cheaper and so I'd go with that. Honestly "features" of motherboards are generally never used I'll be honest with you. I overclock a lot but even I don't end up using a lot of the features that Gigabyte offers on the Z68X-UD3H-B3 even though it's a top line board.

Honestly just go with the cheapest board. All are great choices.
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July 10, 2012 9:46:06 PM

cheapest board it is. currently the LK board is at $128 which is cheaper than that combo for the extreme4. If prices change around over the next week and a half or so i'll scoop the cheapest of those 3 boards.

I think i'm all set! Thanks everyone for walking me through this clearly and concisely. Final compatibility check?
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