Htpc build

[newton75x]

hi to the comunity and thx in advance for your wise advice.
wich one is the best procesor for a htpc: the intel 3240T or the amd a 10 5700

im thinking about pairing the processors with a amd 7750 1g gddr5. wich one will be better for games? i know intel is the best performance but i believe i can do hybrid crossfire with the IGP and the 7750 to get more power .

i was unable to find any benchmarks for the 3240t with a video card.

i want to play world of warcraft , dolphin and pcsx2


btw is there a way to disable the 7750 to save power and use the igp on intel and amd?

thx for all your answers

 

[NoUserBar]

You are going intel mobile? I guess it DOES have lower power output...

They are comparable for HTPC even in CPU wise since HTPC don't do huge amounts of CPU work, they both will do fine laptop part or not. Regardless of whether or not one is better than the other.

7750 can't crossfire with 10 5700 to my knowledge. Only a 6770 can.

A 7750 won't be bottlenecked by either of those, either CPU will use that GPU to it's fullest if they can. Maybe get a 7770?

It's hard for a PC to play emulators that mimic the PS2. A regular i5 non k could do it I'm sure. It's hard to say here whether or not a laptop part can do it. I think the A-10 should be able too, since the i3 can to an extent, and the laptop might be able to do it. Maybe not with best rates though?

Maybe you should go to those site where you can download the Emulators for those consoles and ask at their forum if A-10 CPU and 3240T is enough.

I think either would be fine..

I'd go with the cheaper one/lowest power one.

 

[jaguarskx]

The i3-3240T would perform better than the A10-5700. Plus it also consumes less power. I would probably opt for the i3-3220 though since I do not believe the power consumption difference between an Ivy Bridge "T" model and regular model is very much, but the difference between an i3 and a A10 would be at least 40w. For example, a system with a i3-3220 consumes 88w under full load while an A10-5800k (not overclocked) consumes about 136w. While idling the A10-5800k consumes 53w vs. 63w for the i3, but people normally do not turn on the PC an then walk away.

The fastest card that can hybrid XFire is the Radeon HD 7670 which is really just a rebranded HD 6670. Therefore, using any AMD card faster than a HD 7670 will automatically disable the integrated graphics. Same thing will happen when installing a nVidia card.

 

[newton75x]

thx for your answer

is not a laptop

so the a10 5700 and the i3 3240T wil perform similar with the amd 7750 in games?

i have heard that the igp in the 5700 is good lets say, the i3 with the 7750 vs the 5700+ igp
will the 7750 + intel overkill the igp on the 5700 ? how much in fps in wow could be the overkill like 30fps? in high quality 1080p

 

[jaguarskx]

Here's a link to an earlier discussion today where I posted performance and power consumption benchmarks. Basically it was a discussion about the Core i3-3220 vs. the A10-5800k (not overclocked):

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/353719-28-made-irrelevant

The Core i3 will generally perform better in games because it is a more powerful CPU even though it is only dual core. In games that can use more than 2 core, the A10-5700 might do better. However, previous benchmarks have shown that the Core i3 can perform just as well or better than a Phenom II (more powerful than the A10) in games that can make use of more than 2 cores.

The A10's IGP is a good... for a laptop. But it doesn't even come close to the performance of the Radeon HD 7750. The A10's IGP is basically equal to a Radeon HD 5570.

 

[newton75x]

The i3-3240T would perform better than the A10-5700. Plus it also consumes less power. I would probably opt for the i3-3220 though since I do not believe the power consumption difference between an Ivy Bridge "T" model and regular model is very much, but the difference between an i3 and a A10 would be at least 40w. For example, a system with a i3-3220 consumes 88w under full load while an A10-5800k (not overclocked) consumes about 136w. While idling the A10-5800k consumes 53w vs. 63w for the i3, but people normally do not turn on the PC an then walk away.

The fastest card that can hybrid XFire is the Radeon HD 7670 which is really just a rebranded HD 6670. Therefore, using any AMD card faster than a HD 7670 will automatically disable the integrated graphics. Same thing will happen when installing a nVidia card.

thx a lot for your answer

now im thinking that ill get a intel chip, im going to use the pc as a file server also. is there a way to turn off the 7750 and use the IGP (using a software) ?

i chosed the T version because im thinking about using pasive cooling.

will the diference between the intel + 7750 and the 5700 + igp be too much because if it is les than 20% more on games i could reconsider amd

 

[jaguarskx]

As a relative comparison, the Radeon HD 7750 would be between a Radeon HD 5770 and Radeon HD 5830.

 

[newton75x]

Best answer selected by newton75x.

 

[NoUserBar]

OP is talking about the 10-5700 That has a max tpd of 65w

The power consumption of the A10-5800k shouldn't be assumed to be the same 10-5700.
Here's a hexus test on that: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/47257-amd-a10-5700/?page=8


5700 can't crossfire with 7750 on specs. Can those really crossfire? For high quality 1080p the AMD APU's graphics isn't good. It's good for high 720p. And good for medium quality 1600 1024 resolution.

The wii and the ps2 shouldn't be able to output 1080p regardless, so I'd think the emu's would only support upscaling. :/

i3 or A-10 is good with that card.

 

[jaguarskx]

A normal core i3 can also be passively cooled as well. It all depends on how good (and large) of a heatsink you are using.

For example, in my HPTC I am passively cooling a Core 2 Duo E6600 CPU with a Tuniq Tower; TDP is 65w. Granted that the Tuniq Tower is massive at around 160mm tall and I think it weighs in at 750g (easily over 1.5 pounds).

 

[jaguarskx]

OP is talking about the 10-5700 That has a max tpd of 65w

The power consumption of the A10-5800k shouldn't be assumed to be the same 10-5700.
Here's a hexus test on that: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/47257-amd-a10-5700/?page=8

I didn't say both consumed the same amount of power. But since the difference the two APUs is relatively small the A10-5700 would be relatively close. That's why I mentioned that the power consumption between the i3-3220 and the A10-7500 would likely be over 40w.