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Is there really a difference in performance?
Does anyone recommend a specific brand?

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>Peconic writes ...
>
>Is there really a difference in performance?

Absolutely, if you have a fast camera.

>Does anyone recommend a specific brand?

Sandisk Ultra and Extreme or Lexar 80x Pro are usually the fastest for
most cameras. Visit this site and find the model camera you're using
in the 'database' drop down menu and compare ...
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/m [...] p?cid=6007

Bill

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Hi,

I use both SanDisk Ultra II and Extreme III with D70
and I can tell you, performance-wise I notice ZERO
difference between the two, well actually there is one
big difference => price!

Later on someone working at the photography shop explained
to me that the difference is only noticeable from 8MP up.

HTH,
Best Regards,
Giovanni

"Peconic" <foundpoem@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is there really a difference in performance?
> Does anyone recommend a specific brand?
>

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Giovanni Azua wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I use both SanDisk Ultra II and Extreme III with D70
> and I can tell you, performance-wise I notice ZERO
> difference between the two, well actually there is one
> big difference => price!
>
> Later on someone working at the photography shop explained
> to me that the difference is only noticeable from 8MP up.

Where there can be a difference between cards is when you have a fast card
reader (USB 2.0 hi-speed). The faster cards will download in a shorter
time. I would rate both of your cards as "faster" cards (compared to the
cards which carry no marked speed).

David

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Hi David,

"David J Taylor"
<david-taylor@blueyonder.co.not-this-bit.nor-this-part.uk.invalid> wrote
> Where there can be a difference between cards is when you have a fast card
> reader (USB 2.0 hi-speed). The faster cards will download in a shorter
> time. I would rate both of your cards as "faster" cards (compared to the
> cards which carry no marked speed).
>
I can certainly benchmark this and will post it here ... but now thinking
back
I have never noticed any difference downloading the pictures to my PC, I
have USB 2.0, for couple of minutes difference I am not willing to pay any
addittional USD.

I have also use many times the D70 sequential shooting mode and did
not notice any difference either. Again I am talking about SanDisk CF II
and III.

Best Regards,
Giovanni

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Giovanni Azua wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> "David J Taylor"
> <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.not-this-bit.nor-this-part.uk.invalid>
> wrote
>> Where there can be a difference between cards is when you have a
>> fast card reader (USB 2.0 hi-speed). The faster cards will download
>> in a shorter time. I would rate both of your cards as "faster"
>> cards (compared to the cards which carry no marked speed).
>>
> I can certainly benchmark this and will post it here ... but now
> thinking back
> I have never noticed any difference downloading the pictures to my
> PC, I have USB 2.0, for couple of minutes difference I am not willing
> to pay any addittional USD.

Giovanni, it would be intersting to see your results. My own tests have
show a great difference between USB 1 / USB 1.1 / USB 2.0 "full speed",
and USB 2.0 "hi-speed". USB 2.0 hi-speed is the only version running at
greater than the 12 Mbit/s of the other variants, and requires that your
computer has the correct drivers.

http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm

Once you have hi-speed, I would not expect a great time difference between
SanDisk Ultra II and III.

Cheers,
David

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"Peconic" <foundpoem@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is there really a difference in performance?
> Does anyone recommend a specific brand?

It depends on your camera if you need one. IMO, and this is probably over
simplifying but if your camera was made in the last 18 months and is a DSLR
equal or better than a Canon 20D I'd say yes you should by a speed-rated
card, probably 40x or better.

On the other hand the non-rated cards take longer for me to download to my
PC using a card reader. I have both the 300D and 1D and the only time I
notice the speed of the cards is not when shooting but downloading from the
reader.

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On 11 Aug 2005 07:03:58 -0700, "Peconic" <foundpoem@gmail.com> wrote:

>Is there really a difference in performance?
>Does anyone recommend a specific brand?

I have standardized on SanDisk Extreme III and am very happy with
their performance in my 20D and downloading to my iMac via USB2.

These are the 1 and 2 Gig cards.
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my testimony. The events I have recorded should
not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

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Thank you all for the replies. I bought the SanDisk 256MB ULTRA II
Card, which I felt was not overly pricey compared to other cards, and
was a good starting place for use with a new camera (ordered at the
same time, the Canon PowerShot S1 IS). If I find a huge difference I'll
decide for the next, or larger, card which to buy since it seemed the
more-memory cards is where they got very expensive.

The site posted (Rob Galbraith) was excellent -- thank you for that.

To Dave, I'm surprised to see what you wrote; I would have thought it
was the computer processor speed that would make the difference you
mentioned -- on my slower computer, the dirve appears far slower than
on my fast computer -- so that will be interesting to see.

Again, thanks everyone. And for the input about cameras the past few
weeks.

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Peconic wrote:
[]
> To Dave, I'm surprised to see what you wrote; I would have thought it
> was the computer processor speed that would make the difference you
> mentioned -- on my slower computer, the dirve appears far slower than
> on my fast computer -- so that will be interesting to see.

If that was addressed to me (David), your older computer probably has USB
1.1 or USB 2.0 "full speed", which is 1/40 of the speed of USB 2.0
(hi-speed). Likely your new computer has USB 2.0 (hi-speed).

David

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>To Dave, I'm surprised to see what you wrote; I would have thought it
>was the computer processor speed that would make the difference you
>mentioned -- on my slower computer, the dirve appears far slower than
>on my fast computer

Probably you have USB 1.1 on the older computer and USB 2.0 on the new
one? I have a very fast computer and with a USB 1.1 card reader it
takes 15-18 minutes to download a 1 GB card but with a USB 2 reader
it's a bit over 3 minutes to download the same size card. On a slower
laptop the times are similar, so the processor speed isn't as big a
factor as which version of USB you can use.

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Peconic wrote:

> Is there really a difference in performance?
> Does anyone recommend a specific brand?

There is a difference... However the camera you're using can
have a lot to do with it.

Some older and/or less expensive cameras can't transfer data fast
enough to use the extra speed these new ultra cards can provide.
Also there are features like 'write assist' that can only be used
by certain cameras.

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I use a a reader that plugs into the PCMCIA slot in the side of my
computer, not a USB reader, so I don't think that would make a
difference. I do have USB 2.0, but don't use it for reading [what I
have now], my SmartMedia card. Also, I transfer the same reader and
cards from computer to computer, so that part is identical; the only
difference are the computers -- one being far faster than the other. Or
am I missing something?

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Sure there's a difference, teperature, moisture, and I think altitude
resitance is what you pay for on the Exterme, not speed.

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"Peconic" <foundpoem@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thank you all for the replies. I bought the SanDisk 256MB ULTRA II
> Card, which I felt was not overly pricey compared to other cards, and
> was a good starting place for use with a new camera (ordered at the
> same time, the Canon PowerShot S1 IS). If I find a huge difference I'll
> decide for the next, or larger, card which to buy since it seemed the
> more-memory cards is where they got very expensive.
>
> The site posted (Rob Galbraith) was excellent -- thank you for that.
>
> To Dave, I'm surprised to see what you wrote; I would have thought it
> was the computer processor speed that would make the difference you
> mentioned -- on my slower computer, the dirve appears far slower than
> on my fast computer -- so that will be interesting to see.
>
> Again, thanks everyone. And for the input about cameras the past few
> weeks.

Just to clarify, if I use a USB 2 reader, the Lexar 40x drive will download
the same amount of data from the card to my computer much faster than my
512MB non-rated Lexar using the same reader on the same computer.

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Dave R knows who wrote:
>
>
> Just to clarify, if I use a USB 2 reader, the Lexar 40x drive will download
> the same amount of data from the card to my computer much faster than my
> 512MB non-rated Lexar using the same reader on the same computer.
>
>

yeah I noticed that difference too, d/l images from my Sandisk Ultra2
card seem to take forever with the older sandisk usb1.1 card reader to a
usb2 notebook, bought a no-name usb2 card reader from ebay, much faster.

the usb1 reader was that slow it was ridiculous, it's ok with smaller
cards like up to 64meg, but with a 1 gig card it took something like
20mins to d/l the images against 5mins or less for the usb2 reader

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"Bill Hilton" <bhilton665@aol.com> wrote in message
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: >To Dave, I'm surprised to see what you wrote; I would have thought it
: >was the computer processor speed that would make the difference you
: >mentioned -- on my slower computer, the dirve appears far slower than
: >on my fast computer
:
: Probably you have USB 1.1 on the older computer and USB 2.0 on the new
: one? I have a very fast computer and with a USB 1.1 card reader it
: takes 15-18 minutes to download a 1 GB card but with a USB 2 reader
: it's a bit over 3 minutes to download the same size card. On a slower
: laptop the times are similar, so the processor speed isn't as big a
: factor as which version of USB you can use.
:

Dang!
I'm going to get a USB II port and put it in. I didn't realize that they are
so much faster.

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SVTKate wrote:
[]
> Dang!
> I'm going to get a USB II port and put it in. I didn't realize that
> they are so much faster.

Be sure to install the correct drivers as well:

http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm

David

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On 11 Aug 2005 14:58:04 -0700, "wavelength" <sbrisendine@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Sure there's a difference, teperature, moisture, and I think altitude
>resitance is what you pay for on the Exterme, not speed.

If you look at Ron Galbraith's data, you will see you also get speed
with the Extreme cards also.

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/m [...] p?cid=6007
******************************************************

"I have been a witness, and these pictures are
my testimony. The events I have recorded should
not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

-James Nachtwey-
http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/

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>Peconic wrote ...
>
> use a a reader that plugs into the PCMCIA slot in the side of
>my computer, not a USB reader .... the only difference are the
>computers -- one being far faster than the other. Or
>am I missing something?

What I (and someone else) wrote was for USB 1.1 vs USB 2. PCMCIA is
different so I think you are right when you blame the slowdown on the
computer.

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"zog" <zog@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dave R knows who wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just to clarify, if I use a USB 2 reader, the Lexar 40x drive will
>> download the same amount of data from the card to my computer much faster
>> than my 512MB non-rated Lexar using the same reader on the same computer.
>
> yeah I noticed that difference too, d/l images from my Sandisk Ultra2 card
> seem to take forever with the older sandisk usb1.1 card reader to a usb2
> notebook, bought a no-name usb2 card reader from ebay, much faster.
>
> the usb1 reader was that slow it was ridiculous, it's ok with smaller
> cards like up to 64meg, but with a 1 gig card it took something like
> 20mins to d/l the images against 5mins or less for the usb2 reader

I seem to have a knack for confusing people.

I WAS USING THE SAME READER!

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