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July 9, 2012 1:33:41 PM

Here is my Wish List -

1 - COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel / Plastic Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 - LOGISYS Computer CLK12PL2 12" DUAL PURPLE COLD CATHODE KIT - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5 - Silverstone FF121 Case Accessory - Fan Filter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 - GIGABYTE GA-B75M-D3V LGA 1155 Intel B75 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 - EVGA 01G-P3-1464-KR GeForce GTX 560 SE (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 - CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 - Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 - Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model KHX1333C9D3B1K2/4G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 - Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 - steelseries Merc Stealth Black USB Wired Ergonomic Gaming Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 - Dell UltraSharp U2412M Black 24" 8ms LED Backlight Widescreen LCD IPS Panel Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 - Logitech G600 MMO Gaming Mouse 910-002864 Black 20 Buttons Tilt Wheel USB Wired Laser Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 - ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4 - XIGMATEK Cooling System Crystal Series CLF-F1255 120mm Purple LED Case Fan PSU Molex Adapter/extender included
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 - XIGMATEK Cooling System Crystal Series CLF-F1455 140mm Purple LED Case Fan PSU Molex Adapter/extender included
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




Ok ----- I just started a new thread because I was having difficulty sharing my Newegg info.

1. I'm only using this rig for Wow only, nothing else, not even web browsing.

2. I don't do 25 man raids or PVP.

3. I wan't max settings and smooth gameplay also fast load speeds.

4. Is my PSU enough for this rig?

5. Will this monitor work for this rig?

6. My Cooler Master case allows for 1 front 140mm fan and 5 other 120mm fans. Should I use this many? Should my side fan be intake or exhaust?

7. Are Fan Filters necessary?


Any other suggestions or comments are most welcome thank you.

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July 9, 2012 1:46:18 PM

the PSU should be fine for that build, and should run WOW on high. Filters aren't necessary, but will reduce the level of dust in your PC.

you can run as many fans as you like. For proper airflow, side, front, and bottom fans should be intake. top and back should be outflow.


I'd suggest an i5-2400 or i5-3450 over the i3-2100. WoW now uses as many cores as it can.
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July 9, 2012 1:53:28 PM

Thank you very much for your reply.

Is 4 gig still good, if I'm only going to be using it for Wow and nothing else, I don't plan on having anything else running while playing.

Also, is there a good anti-virus/spyware program I should get?
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July 9, 2012 2:35:55 PM

I would recommend 8GB due to the low costs as your only going to pay $20-25 more.
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July 9, 2012 2:47:26 PM

Well as you plan on only running 1 game and hard drive space doesn't matter I would suggest getting a small SSD instead of the HDD. There are some 120gb SSD on newegg for the same price(90$). It will cut down boottime and map changes are almost instantaneous. Load time is the selling point of SSD and if space is not an option I'd go for load speed. If you are only using for WoW and nothing else I would get an SSD.
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July 9, 2012 3:10:17 PM

awesome, so 120gb ssd instead of my hard drive; will do good on faster load speeds being as I'm not planning on using my rig for anything else other then Wow.

Very good.

Is 5 120mm fans and 1 140mm fan necessary though? for Wow with the Cooler Master?

Or can I get away with fewer fans?

Also, should I just use the stock fan that comes with my processor?
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July 9, 2012 3:25:48 PM

So I should go with the 8gb?

Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model KHX1333C9D3B1K2/8G

Instead of the 4?

And I should go with a quad core?

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000

Instead of the i3 dual core?

These couple of changes here hikes up my price a bit.... are these going to be noticeable differences?

Again, my objective is only playing Wow at absolute max settings and have smooth running and fast load times.

Can I achieve this with 4gb and the i3 processor if I'm only playing Wow with nothing else open or will I only be able to achieve this if I make these upgrades?

Thanks again for all the advice and help.

p.s. I'm not second guessing the advice I just want to be clear. Thank you so much.
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July 9, 2012 3:32:09 PM

Lol...WoW only build? Heck, I have a 2006 Gateway GT5228 with everything stock, 2gigs ram, AMD Athlon XP Dual core 4000, upgraded psu and NVidia 9600GTS, runs prettymuch everything on ultra cept shadows, always within 40-60fps range. WoW doesn't need a gaming rig to play, especially now days. I mean the engine is still the same as it was six years ago. Sure they've made a few tweaks, but any computer worth it's salt, with a dedicated graphics card, should be able to run wow just fine.
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July 9, 2012 4:09:04 PM

That build is exelent. I sugest you dont add that much case fans because the Elite 430 have a decent airflow, also dust filters are not that necesary as that case comes with handfull features as front mesh intakes and top and lower dust filters.

I would suggest, isteand of getting a bunch of fans and dust filters, get 2 more fans (elite 430 comes with 1 led 120mm front intake fan) put one as exhasut and one as side intake.

Get a "boot" SSD for about 80ish or 100 bucks, an 90GB SSD or 120GB SSD would make your Map Loads really fast. As booting into your windows. So if an ideal configu should be.

I5 2400.

8GB of ram, the cheaper you can get.

the GPU, an 6850 or HD7770 will be able to play Ultra at 1080p.

120GB SSD + 300+GB HDD

500W PSU with at least 40amp in the 12v rail.

Everything else is fine. I play WoW... Im not hardcore but im pulling some heroics and sometimes 25 raids, also I play PVP casually with my specs that are the half of the power that you are getting I play at 1440x900 ultra with an overkill x8 multisample !

So, happy gaming and see you in the battleground 'mom!
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July 9, 2012 5:20:14 PM

Ok then so now this is what I have:

COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel / Plastic Computer Case ----- with 1 - 140mm front case fan and 1 - 120mm side fan ( for intake ) and 1 - 120mm back or top fan for exhaust. ... and no extra fan filters.

So for the basic system I've got


EVGA 01G-P3-1464-KR GeForce GTX 560 SE (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

GIGABYTE GA-B75M-D3V LGA 1155 Intel B75 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model KHX1333C9D3B1K2/8G

OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive


Power supply - CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply



I don't know what having at least a 40amp in the 12v rail means?

Ok with this setup are all the components compatible? The Mobo, the processor, the ssd, hardrive etc... etc...





Right now I'm running Wow on a MacBook 2.4 ghz intel core 2 duo with 2 gb 1067 ddr3 and a Gforce 320m... and I have to run everything at the lowest settings in order to play Wow and I still get some lag.


But again, I don't want to spend more then I have too. I'm not going to use this for anything else. I'm not going to have any applications open while playing etc... etc...

So, again, is a quad core that necessary?

Also..... I do really really appreciate the tip on the SSD. I'm definitely going with that. It sounds like I'll really cut down load times.

Should I still keep the 500gb hard drive?

Is the Mobo and graphics card I've got selected adequate enough?



Right now with everything including the peripherals I'm close to 1400.00..... I was hoping to keep it under 1200.00



Thanks again for all the good advice.
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July 9, 2012 5:32:50 PM

$1200 for a WoW only computer is pretty ridiculous. Why are you wanting to spend that much just to play WoW? You could play WoW for a fraction of that.
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July 9, 2012 5:34:08 PM

Cut down the HDD, get a 320Gb instead. Because you are going to have your OS and WOW in your SSD. You are going to have at least 80GB of that SSD free and for a HDD if you say that you are not going to use it for anything else, so.. I doubt that a big HDD will be necesary.

Also, for just 40 dolaras a real Quad core will do wonders from now and a couple of years.

Power supplies comes with a Wattage lets say 500watts. But also these come with multiple rails and the most important one is the 12v rail which transfer most of the load.

Having more Amps in the 12v raild than in other rails means more stable and "true" power.
Because some cheaps vendors of powersuplies tend to put tons of amps in rails that are not going to be used, so they can inflated the wattage. Thats why some cheaps PSU comes with tons of Watts but are weak. That Corsair PSU its kinda enough for your system, even overlock, and as your are not going to overlock it is plenty for your needs.

All parts will work together pretty well. So you are set bro!
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July 9, 2012 6:40:26 PM

The reason I kept the 500Gb HD is that I'm not really saving any money by going 320.... the 500Gb HD that I've got selected is 75.00 with great reviews and so If I go 320, I'll only be saving a few dollars.


.... yes, spending 1200.00 to 1400.00 for "just Wow" is purely a luxury. But it's how "I" choose to spend my time and money.

Now..... a lot of that money is on the peripherals.

The gaming Key Board - 100.00
The mouse - 80.00
The Monitor - 400.00

these are also luxuries. - I realize I could get a plain cheap Logitech mouse and keyboard and save 150.00 and I also realize I could get a good 24" monitor for under 200.00 .... again saving 200.00.

But I want a really good keyboard and mouse and monitor.


So, now we're really talking about a 700.00 rig..... which from everything I've read, is pretty reasonable.


So, for the two replies, that have insisted that I could go a lot cheaper and still play at high settings... please let me know how?


Because I could go back to the dual core , no ssd card, and 4g ram ---- 500.00 rig if I could still run Wow at ultra settings without a problem.


Although, I'm sold on the ssd card. I would personally really enjoy faster loading times. .... this is a luxury also, I realize.
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July 9, 2012 6:57:56 PM

if i were you id look at socket FM1 .. get an AMD A8 pair it with a 6670 for hybrid crossfire and a 120 gb ssd drive or 2 of them for that matter put them in raid 0.. a 450 watt power supply should be plenty for it .. and just get a case you like with 8 gigs or ram and windows 7 home premium.. / keyboard/mouse monitor.. will save you quite a bit of money and keep you from going over kill.. dont forget the dvd / blue ray drive..
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July 9, 2012 7:34:49 PM

cbsevenfifty said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bHFT

8GB of ram for WoW is just plain overkill. You only need 2.


the APU processor pulls from the system ram so it would benefit significantly from that amount of ram the faster the ram the better 1600MHz or 1866
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July 9, 2012 7:35:42 PM

I hear that Intel is better then AMD for Wow.

But If I can save some money by going this route, I would consider it.

Would my FPS suffer at all with this setup?

AMD A8-3870K Unlocked Llano 3.0GHz Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 6550D AD3870WNGXBOX

Or..

AMD A8-3850 Llano 2.9GHz Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 6550D AD3850WNGXBOX

Or..

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX


With a

ASUS EAH6670/DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

and

ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
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July 9, 2012 7:40:27 PM

goodguy713 said:
the APU processor pulls from the system ram so it would benefit significantly from that amount of ram the faster the ram the better 1600MHz or 1866


Board doesn't support 1600 ram with SB and its not worth it to upgrade to i5 Ivy just for WoW.
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July 9, 2012 7:43:08 PM

ill put it to you this way .. theres a lot of different things people will tell you here.. you want pure performance based off of benchmarks and the like intel is undisputed .. how ever from a value / price perspective you pay a signicant premium .. personally if i were you id just get an average cpu amd 965 would work fine.. and just get a high end video card 7870 beasts a lot of stuff these days @ 1080 p want better go with a gtx 670 awesome card as well end the end gaming performance id quantified by the gpu more so then the cpu .. all the other parts you listed sound good man.. fm1 could limit fps a bit depending on weather you chose to use hybrid crossfire with the 6670 or just bought a discrete card and went that route .. wow would also run good on an core i3 as well you dont need an unlocked cpu just to play at ultra settings... even an intel 920 could do that..
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July 9, 2012 7:44:45 PM

cbsevenfifty said:
Board doesn't support 1600 ram with SB and its not worth it to upgrade to i5 Ivy just for WoW.

I was talking about socket FM1 .. dude..
CHANGE THE BOARD DUH >> :sarcastic: 
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July 9, 2012 7:46:58 PM

goodguy713 said:
CHANGE THE BOARD DUH >> :sarcastic: 


Why? Unnecessary.
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July 9, 2012 7:48:13 PM

the Llano 3850 + a 6670 GPU will run WOW fairly well

here is the 3850 + 6570, compared to the 6570 + i3 2105 and the HD 3000 alone


with 60 FPS at 1650x1080, that should be about 65 with the 6670. upping to 1920x1080, I'd suggest 40-45fps for the build
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July 9, 2012 7:49:34 PM

goodguy713 said:
I was talking about socket FM1 .. dude..
CHANGE THE BOARD DUH >> :sarcastic: 


cbsevenfifty said:
Why? Unnecessary.



your talking about lga 1155 with an i5 i was telling him to go amd and save money read the messages .. in the end ive already spent my time limit here ..
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July 9, 2012 7:53:29 PM

goodguy713 said:
your talking about lga 1155 with an i5 i was telling him to go amd and save money read the messages .. end the end ive already spent my time limit here ..


Guess I'm confused why you quoted me in the first place, then.
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July 9, 2012 9:08:36 PM

It's worth noting that if you run a lot of addons, they are going to tax the CPU and RAM alot more than any Toms benchmark shows, and it may be beneficial to take that into consideration. I would go with 8GB of ram to ensure WOW gets enough RAM to itself.

An i5 would also certainly benefit you, but a good AMD chip is likely to be fine as well; as a note, you don't really need the i5-K edition unless you want to overclock, so at that point the i5-3550 becomes a better deal (the locked version of ivy is the same price as sandy).

I ran smooth on a stock PhenomII BE965 (i think) back at the start of cataclysm with a 4870 (haven't played since though, so dunno how efficiency has changed) using 8 or 12 GB of RAM and lots of addons.

edit: Second thoughts are finding me doubting that you would really need the i5, it is definitely the sweetspot for gaming, but as others have said, WoW isn't really pushing the envelope these days, as long as you don't mind a little FPS sagging in the capital cities, you may be fine on the i3.
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July 9, 2012 11:16:21 PM

Why is everyone arguing about $45-50 of of ram? 8GB is fine and who the heck knows what you may play with this computer or what expansions for wow come out down the road.

I personally would get the 7770 vs the 560 SE just for the power consumption / heat. This would look nice in your case as well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 10, 2012 12:59:19 AM

*To the OP and ignoring what everybody said after me*

It's true that WoW does not need too much power to play. But I'd like to see your fps when in Fights like Ultraxion or Ragnaros start to cast things. WoW even uses 4 o more cores, it's a Masive Multiplayer game, a quad core CPU will make a nice diference when other players are casting and kind of, increaseing minimun and maximun FPS.

But.... If you want to play for the next 6 months and realize that your PC is in the end of the road by getting an APU, you will surelly be pissed off. The Secure and SMART way, its to get something that endure. You will not even thing about your PC in the next 2 years if you talk about the system that I recomended...

Well With all my respect, choice what you want... the best recomendation its to check yourself reviews and stuff like that.
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July 10, 2012 1:18:00 AM

WoW is set to use as many cores that are available. It has nothing to do with needing all of those cores.
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