Budget Range: (e.g.: <=550) After Rebates; After Shipping
System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: gaming, surfing the internet)
Are you buying a monitor: No
Do you need to buy OS: No
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: amazon (because here in Italy we cannot buy from newegg)
Parts Preferences: any
Overclocking: pretty much no
SLI or Crossfire: sometime in the future
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
Additional Comments: would love if it wouldn't heat my room like crazy while idle (my last pc was a P4 4GhZ, then I switched to MacBook), and I am looking forward to play the next gen of videogames coming out this Oct.
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: as said, tired of my MacBook being uncapable of playing any game
I'm also attaching a possible configuration that needs some adjustment and completion to stay inside the max. threshold of 550.
Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.5GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W (I was considering AMD's FX8150 or 8120, but I was afraid of gaming performance and power efficiency)
Intel boxed heat sink/fan
I need USB3, PCIe3 for future upgrades and of course DDR3 1600. Also, I'd like it to be reliable.
Something like 2x4GB but I can do it with 4 gigs only, until I have some spare cash to buy additional 4Ggigs
ATI6870 or EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 (undecided)
anything fast and reliable. size does not matter (got ext Hd)
I'm in the need of something simple, fresh and quiet.
Not knowing prices in Italy, here are some general thoughts for you:
The graphics card is the prime engine of gaming. More so than the cpu.
Is a guideline, spend twice your budget on the graphics card vs. the cpu.
In the US, a $200 3450 should be paired with a $400 GTX670.
Or, a $150 i3-2130 would be paired with a $300 7870.
Stick with the newer 28nm based graphics cards. They take less power and therefore run cooler and quieter.
8gb is good. Ram is cheap. Get a 8gb kit(2 x 4gb)
Today, I would no longer build without a SSD for the os and some games.
A SSD is 50x faster than any hard drive in random i/o, that is what the os does mostly. It is even 2-3x faster in sequential.
A 120gb SSD will hold the os and 6-8 games. Prices are down to <$1 pergb.
My preferred units for reliability are Samsung 830, Intel 520 or 330 series. Crucial M4 is third.
Performance is remarkable similar and good from all ssd's.
For a psu, buy only quality. Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, XFX, and PC P&C are on my short list.
A 650w unit will power any single graphics card short of a GTX690.
I would suggest an aftermarket cpu cooler. It need not be expensive, perhaps $30 for a cm hyper212. The larger 120mm fan will be quieter under load.
Cases are a personal thing.
I would spend more on a good case, particularly if you value quiet.
One good one is the Antec SOLO II. Here is a review from SPCR which is a great place for quiet computing: http://www.silentpcreview.com/antec-solo2
Thanks for the detailed reply. Sadly, I think I haven't made my point with the original post. I really am on a tight budget, meaning that I would gladly remain under that amount.
Prices in Italy are pretty high due to 21% VAT.
The point of choosing an Ivy Bridge was to clear the deck for forthcoming PCIe3 gpu cards, so that one can easily update while keeping MoBo and CPU.
I also considered AMD FX8150 for its quality to price ratio. I do know that Intel are "far superior" when it comes to plain gaming and was asking for an advice for the route to take.
I can either go with Ivy Bridge (i5) and pick a less expensive gpu for further updating in 2/3 years when PCIe3 becomes less expensive, or pick AMD and a more expensive gpu to help the "struggling" of the eight core beast.
Also, I seem to put much stress on quietness. While this is true, I am not going to spend to get proper case/psu. While surely worth it, such stuff costs more than its competitors just in in the name of some lame certification.
Here I was hoping for some of you geeks to suggest some tested build that works fine, does not heat like an oven in the summertime and keeps kinda silent for most of the time (like, when browsing youtube, a situation in which my C2D macbook likes to unleash its fan power).
My pc needs not be fancy or future-proof (which one is, anyways) but I want it to be kind of a leap towards a better gaming experience. I have the possibility of spending 580$ tax included (I've made a proper conversion including my VAT) so I beg you people...help me!
Do not worry about pcie 3 graphics cards. Today's cards are not impacted more than 1% by pcie2.0.
$500 is a tough budget. It is not feasible if you are looking at a $200 cpu like the 3450.
For example, here is a TOM's June $500 gaming build. Look at it not so much for the individual parts, but to where it is possible to shave costs, and where they should be allocated. Notice the $50 G530 cpu and the $210 gtx560ti graphics card. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-pc-do-it-you...
As to noise, that is primarily caused by high rpm fans. In the case, cooler, or graphics card. The psu fan should not be a factor unless it is grossly underpowered.
Really, the best place to save is on a case. I do not know which ones you have available to you, but in the us, there are many <$50 cases. Any will do if it has at least one 120mm(preferably two) intake fans, or the equivalent in output fans. Cases depending on smaller fans will be noisy. Can you buy a used case?
A Samsung 830 128gb ssd or an intel 330 120gb ssd will be about 110e.
That is enough to hold the OS and 6-8 games. See if you can't find a way to justify a ssd, it will make everything you do feel so much quicker. A SSD is 50x faster in random i/o, which is what the os does mostly. It is 2-3x faster in sequential.
If you will be storing large files, namely video, then add a hard drive for that purpose later.
Just a warning both the 550 ti and AMD 4100 are turds,
I havent seen the prices and I won't look but a 7770 or 6850 will be very close in price and much better buys that only require 1 connector
you said gaming PC maybe look at the 2130 or 23xx. ivy is not what people were expecting pick another mobo p67 or almost anything with usb 3.0 for cheaper, this is a budget build ditch the high end mobo and only buy the cheapest you can get while retaining your preferance for usb 3.0.
as mentioned you do not and will not need PCIE 3.0 it makes no difference and even the mighty 6990 and 590 dn't seem to be affected by the 2.1 pcie bandwith and they topple the new cards at the moment quite easily in most situations, 690 and 7970x2 excluded. Unless you plan to drop 1000+ on a card in the next year your wasting money looking for a z77 mobo
8gb of ram is a why not issue, I can't think of a good reason even on your budget not to look at 8 gb