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500$ new build for 3d vfx(maya,nuke,zbrush)

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July 9, 2012 7:24:53 PM

hi everybody i need a little help with this new build :D 

Approximate Purchase Date : in a week or 2

Budget Range: 3000 L.E (500$)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3d modeling,animation and vfx (maya ,nuke,zbrush) , gaming , browsing

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: motherboard , cpu , gpu ,ram , psu

Do you need to buy OS: no

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: http://www.egprices.com/category.php?cat=1

Location: cairo>>egypt

Parts Preferences : whatever best for 3d work and vfx(maya)

Overclocking: no

SLI or Crossfire: no


Additional Comments: i would love to get the best specs possible for 3d work :D  also i would like the suggested build to be in L.E ( you can the website i mentioned to get prices in L.E) as the prices will be different here from prices in $ because of shipping

Why am i Upgrading: im upgrading from my old build ( phenom x3 8450,ecs a780gm-a ,4gb ddr2 kingston , ati hd 5450)

here is the build that i already choose

motherboard : Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H
http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=13665
processor : core i5 2500
http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=12797
ram : 4gb ddr3 1333 mhz kingston( 1 4gb ram or 2x2gb)
http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=15214
Thermaltake Litepower 450W PSU
http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=12704
gpu card : nvidia gtx 550 ti
http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=14915
July 9, 2012 7:27:46 PM

What kind of budget are we working with here? The i5-2500K will be useless on a B75 motherboard as you lose access to the multiplier. The GTX 550TI will not max out most games.
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July 9, 2012 7:34:58 PM

I have the 55oti and it not a bad card..my older card was the 250gt. as long as when your game playing you turn down all the bells and wisseles on the high end games you should be able to run them in the 20-40fps rangyou may have to lower the video size to gt more fps with the 550 ti. the only issue with the build make sure that you buy a good bronze 80 level power supply. a lot of new build issues are with sub par power supplys and gaming or heavy work loads. i dont knowys over there have what we have here in the us. but look online or your local newspaper for computer swap meet. you may be able to pick up older atx case or some parts real cheap. also look at the 6x chipset mb your buying a sb chip so you dont need the 7x chipset...the 7x chipset is if you going to drop in a ivy bridge chip. if it takes you a long time to save up...then go with the sb now and then save up for chip after haswell.
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July 9, 2012 7:39:23 PM

Is this a pre built package, or are you building one yourself?

I don't think I would use a B75 based chipset with a 2500K. I don't think you can take advantage of the "K" overclocking capabilities with a B75 chipset.

For gaming, the balance is out of kilter. The 2500K is a very strong cpu, and should be balanced with a GTX670 class graphics card.

A better balance would be a weaker i3-2130 with a stronger GTX560 class card.

As my rule of thumb, pay twice the cpu budget for the graphics card.

For the psu, insist on quality. A cheap psu is not the place to economize.

Look for Seasonic, Corsair, Antec, PC P&C, or XFX. It is not wrong to overprovision the psu a bit; it will use only the power it needs. If a quality psu has enough pcie 6/8 pin leads to fit your graphics card, it will be plenty.
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July 9, 2012 9:56:53 PM

g-unit1111 said:
What kind of budget are we working with here? The i5-2500K will be useless on a B75 motherboard as you lose access to the multiplier. The GTX 550TI will not max out most games.


my budget is 3000 L.E. (can add an extra 100 l.e if needed )
and here is a website with the prices in L.e http://www.egprices.com/category.php?cat=1

btw i wont be overclocking at all :D 
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July 9, 2012 10:01:05 PM

geofelt said:
Is this a pre built package, or are you building one yourself?

I don't think I would use a B75 based chipset with a 2500K. I don't think you can take advantage of the "K" overclocking capabilities with a B75 chipset.

For gaming, the balance is out of kilter. The 2500K is a very strong cpu, and should be balanced with a GTX670 class graphics card.

A better balance would be a weaker i3-2130 with a stronger GTX560 class card.

As my rule of thumb, pay twice the cpu budget for the graphics card.

For the psu, insist on quality. A cheap psu is not the place to economize.

Look for Seasonic, Corsair, Antec, PC P&C, or XFX. It is not wrong to overprovision the psu a bit; it will use only the power it needs. If a quality psu has enough pcie 6/8 pin leads to fit your graphics card, it will be plenty.


well the pc will be like 70% for 3d software like maya ,so im not building the pc specially for gaming ,but i wont the get the best for my budget including the gpu but want to get the i5 , a dual core i3 wont be good for rendering i guess , and im building this my self its not a pre built
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July 9, 2012 10:05:38 PM

smorizio said:
I have the 55oti and it not a bad card..my older card was the 250gt. as long as when your game playing you turn down all the bells and wisseles on the high end games you should be able to run them in the 20-40fps rangyou may have to lower the video size to gt more fps with the 550 ti. the only issue with the build make sure that you buy a good bronze 80 level power supply. a lot of new build issues are with sub par power supplys and gaming or heavy work loads. i dont knowys over there have what we have here in the us. but look online or your local newspaper for computer swap meet. you may be able to pick up older atx case or some parts real cheap. also look at the 6x chipset mb your buying a sb chip so you dont need the 7x chipset...the 7x chipset is if you going to drop in a ivy bridge chip. if it takes you a long time to save up...then go with the sb now and then save up for chip after haswell.

i already have a case , monitor , 1.5tb samsung harddrive , dvd drive , keyboard mouse etc
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July 9, 2012 10:26:38 PM

if you guys need to know a budget in dollars i think its about 500$ for motherboard , i5 processor , vga card , ram , psu
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July 10, 2012 1:52:58 PM

where are you guys ? :( 
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July 10, 2012 4:13:37 PM

western13 said:
my budget is 3000 L.E. (can add an extra 100 l.e if needed )
and here is a website with the prices in L.e http://www.egprices.com/category.php?cat=1

btw i wont be overclocking at all :D 


So it's essentially a $500 budget if my currency conversion tool is accurate.

Here's what I would recommend:

PSU: http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=11787 - Corsair CX 600 - 520 L.E.
Motherboard: http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=14871 - Gigabyte GA-H77-D3H - 720 L.E.
CPU: http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=14927 - Core i3-2120 - 700 L.E.
RAM: http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=13284 - G.Skill Ares 1600MHz 1.5V 8GB (2 x 4GB) - 340 L.E.
GPU: http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=12737 - Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 - 1175 L.E.

Total: 3455 L.E.

A little over budget ($570 U.S.) but everything is good - getting the i5-3450 will add quite a bit more to your budget.
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July 10, 2012 6:52:21 PM

g-unit1111 said:
So it's essentially a $500 budget if my currency conversion tool is accurate.

Here's what I would recommend:

PSU: http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=11787 - Corsair CX 600 - 520 L.E.
Motherboard: http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=14871 - Gigabyte GA-H77-D3H - 720 L.E.
CPU: http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=14927 - Core i3-2120 - 700 L.E.
RAM: http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=13284 - G.Skill Ares 1600MHz 1.5V 8GB (2 x 4GB) - 340 L.E.
GPU: http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=12737 - Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 - 1175 L.E.

Total: 3455 L.E.

A little over budget ($570 U.S.) but everything is good - getting the i5-3450 will add quite a bit more to your budget.


i want to get an i5 because the pc will be used 70% for 3d work(autodesk maya ,nuke etc) so it will be faster in rendering :D , most of i3 builds are for gaming where you get the i3 and a high graphics card and ram , but this setup looks feature upgradable but i wont be upgrading for the next 2 years :( , can i get a cheap motherboard and a 450w psu and get the i5 with a 7770 or gtx 550 ti ( i think the gtx 550 ti might be better for 3d work becuase of cuda cores ? ) , thanks for the help :)  i edited the main post
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July 10, 2012 9:14:19 PM

western13 said:
i want to get an i5 because the pc will be used 70% for 3d work(autodesk maya ,nuke etc) so it will be faster in rendering :D , most of i3 builds are for gaming where you get the i3 and a high graphics card and ram , but this setup looks feature upgradable but i wont be upgrading for the next 2 years :( , can i get a cheap motherboard and a 450w psu and get the i5 with a 7770 or gtx 550 ti ( i think the gtx 550 ti might be better for 3d work becuase of cuda cores ? ) , thanks for the help :)  i edited the main post


Can't get much cheaper than that without losing full functionality.

i3 is a perfectly capable CPU for workstations, I use the same CPU on my work PC which is for CAD / Photoshop / Powerpoint and things of that nature. It works fine for what I need it to do.

As far as PSU goes - if you're doing intensive 3-D work you'll need some sort of GPU, and the minimum requirement for the 6850 / 6870 is at least 500W, you can't really use a GPU on less than that.
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July 11, 2012 12:01:41 AM

g-unit1111 said:
Can't get much cheaper than that without losing full functionality.

i3 is a perfectly capable CPU for workstations, I use the same CPU on my work PC which is for CAD / Photoshop / Powerpoint and things of that nature. It works fine for what I need it to do.

As far as PSU goes - if you're doing intensive 3-D work you'll need some sort of GPU, and the minimum requirement for the 6850 / 6870 is at least 500W, you can't really use a GPU on less than that.


what functionality will i use if i went for a cheaper motherboard? ,
if i got a cheaper motherboard(with usb 3.0 sata 3)
something like this one http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=15084
and got a cheaper gpu like the 7770 or gtx 550 + a psu to run it , i know i will lose some fps in games but i will be playing at 720 and i know at 720p the fps of most games wont get lower than 45 with highest setting

i would be able to get the i5 ( which is much faster than the i3 in benchmarks and i think it would result in faster render times with maya ) then maybe in a year or 2 i could replace the gpu and psu for say a gtx 560 and a 650w psu and add more ram

let me know what you think :D  ?
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July 11, 2012 12:07:14 AM

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what functionality will i use if i went for a cheaper motherboard? ,
if i got a cheaper motherboard(with usb 3.0 sata 3)
something like this one http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=15084
and got a cheaper gpu like the 7770 or gtx 550 + a psu to run it , i know i will lose some fps in games but i will be playing at 720 and i know at 720p the fps of most games wont get lower than 45 with highest setting


That motherboard should be fine if you don't need a lot of expansion.

The 7750 is a better GPU than the 7770 is for the same price: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750...

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i would be able to get the i5 ( which is much faster than the i3 in benchmarks and i think it would result in faster render times with maya ) then maybe in a year or 2 i could replace the gpu and psu for say a gtx 560 and a 650w psu and add more ram


Yeah that will be fine. In a year or two there will be GPUs out that will make the 560TI look like an etch a sketch by comparison. :lol: 
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July 11, 2012 12:19:05 AM

g-unit1111 said:
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what functionality will i use if i went for a cheaper motherboard? ,
if i got a cheaper motherboard(with usb 3.0 sata 3)
something like this one http://www.egprices.com/product.php?id=15084
and got a cheaper gpu like the 7770 or gtx 550 + a psu to run it , i know i will lose some fps in games but i will be playing at 720 and i know at 720p the fps of most games wont get lower than 45 with highest setting


That motherboard should be fine if you don't need a lot of expansion.

The 7750 is a better GPU than the 7770 is for the same price: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750...

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i would be able to get the i5 ( which is much faster than the i3 in benchmarks and i think it would result in faster render times with maya ) then maybe in a year or 2 i could replace the gpu and psu for say a gtx 560 and a 650w psu and add more ram


Yeah that will be fine. In a year or two there will be GPUs out that will make the 560TI look like an etch a sketch by comparison. :lol: 


yeah :D  , so i ended with the same setup that i choose at the beginning :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  .. thanks a lot for the help man :D 
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July 11, 2012 12:20:29 AM

thanks everybody , i know what i will be getting now :bounce:  :bounce:  , if anyone has any suggestions its still welcome :D  :hello:  :hello: 
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