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July 9, 2012 8:25:10 PM

Alrite, I've got my parts list sorted:


Samsung 64GB 830 Series SSD
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATAIII 6Gb/s 16MB Cache
Intel Sandybridge i5-2500K Unlocked Core i5 Quad-Core Processor
Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 LGA1155 ATX 4xDDR3
Sapphire 11179-09-20G HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
G-Skill 8GBXL Ripjaws X for Intel Sandybridge Platforms DDR3 PC12800 1600MHz 8GB Kit
LiteOn IHAS124-19C 24x Internal DVDRW
Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
Thermaltake Power Supply 240-Pin 600 Power Supply


I'm happy with all the parts I've chosen besides from the case and the power supply

Are there any products that are cheaper than the ones I've listed but of equal quality

Please feel free to suggest a better option but it must be identical to the product price or less.

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a c 113 B Homebuilt system
July 9, 2012 8:32:09 PM

And how are we supposed to know the price? Where do you live? Where are you shopping?

Your PSU choice is probably bad. What the heck is a 240-pin PSU? :lol: 
July 9, 2012 8:51:57 PM

Is this for gaming, what's your budget?

I agree with Proximon, your PSU sounds like it sucks. Also, if this is for gaming, then you will get much more benefit from a better Graphics Card then an SSD. I would probably invest in a GTX 560 ti or an HD 6950 and drop the SSD.
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July 9, 2012 11:37:14 PM

I live in the UK so my currency is GBP, I'll be buying all the parts from Amazon UK or Ebuyer so feel free to suggest any products from either sites.

My budget is limited because although I'll be using it for gaming it definitely wont be intense gaming I'll probably only be gaming on it for a couple hours a day.

The games I'd play once it's been built are like, GTA 3, Vice City, GTA SA, GTA 4 and GTA 5 (when it comes out), also like playing games such as the Sims 3, Saints Row 3 and Mafia 2, but I absolutely hate first person shooters.

The games I mentioned (besides GTA 4) run fine on my current dual core laptop. However, I'd like to be able to play all the games in a 720p resolution at medium settings.

The rest of the time I'm mostly around the web surfing on YouTube and talking to strangers on MSN.

The PC has to be future proof- I don't want to be getting an upgrade in a year- we're talking about 3 years with no upgrades. Hence why I chose a quad core processor, with 8gb of ram and an SSD- I really want the SSD though as it'd be great to install programs such as Photoshop, Corel Video Studio and just programs I use on a regular basis.

Finally my budget- it's about 450-500 British Pounds which is like 770 US dollars.

What I want from you guys is a suggestion of any parts that would make this build a better and cheaper build at the moment the total is 678 pounds and I'd like that to somehow hit the 500 pound mark.

Thanks soooo much. I really appreciate the time you've taken out to read this. :) 
a c 113 B Homebuilt system
July 9, 2012 11:50:40 PM

If the original build fits your budget then the only thing that needs to be changed is the PSU

Corsair 600W CX600 V2
http://www.ebuyer.com/269259-corsair-600w-cx-series-v2-...

This XFX 450W is enough power and good quality. Not much room for upgrades of course.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/450w-xfx-pro-core-editio...

This Corsair case has USB 3 and good air
http://www.ebuyer.com/351501-corsair-carbide-300r-case-...

This Antec as well
http://www.ebuyer.com/341398-three-hundred-two-tower-ca...
July 10, 2012 6:22:56 AM

Thats the whole point, the original build doesn't fit my budget, it comes round to 678 pounds and ideally I'd like to build something for 500 or less. What I want from you guys is what parts should I remove. Orrr are there any better parts to use in the PC but that cost less?
July 10, 2012 6:44:47 AM

Can you suggest a better graphics card that costs less? The 6870 costs a £120. Is there anything that costs less but is of equal performance and will work with my motherboard. It has to work with my motherboard
a c 113 B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2012 7:49:07 AM

anwix said:
Thats the whole point, the original build doesn't fit my budget, it comes round to 678 pounds and ideally I'd like to build something for 500 or less. What I want from you guys is what parts should I remove. Orrr are there any better parts to use in the PC but that cost less?


And again, we were supposed to know this how?

The CPU would be the first place to cut corners there.

Just take a deep breath and give us all the data in one place, so we don't have to drag it out of you bit by bit:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...
July 10, 2012 8:01:12 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Tomorrow

Budget Range: £450-510

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Surfing the net, gaming, video editing, photo editing, office work- Word, Excel and PPT

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Speaker, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Ebuyer.com | Amazon.co.uk

Country: United Kingdom

Parts Preferences: These are the parts I definitely want:
Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 LGA1155 ATX 4xDDR3, 2xUSB3.0, 5.1Audio, GA-Z68XP-UD3
Intel Sandybridge i5-2500K Unlocked Core i5 Quad-Core Processor (3.30GHz, 6MB Cache, Socket 1155)
Samsung 64GB 830 SSD SATA 6GBPS 2.5 inch Desktop Basic Kit
G-Skill 8GBXL Ripjaws X for Intel Sandybridge Platforms DDR3 PC12800 1600MHz 8GB Kit
LiteOn IHAS124-19C 24x Internal DVDRW Black Bulk SATA? Software Included

I want you guys to suggest the rest to me

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Does not need a lot of bling, I'd like to get it done within the budget but also want the parts I've listed.
July 10, 2012 8:10:00 AM

I mean what's wrong in a graphics card like this:

XFX ATI Radeon HD6850 Graphics Card PCI-e 1024 MB GDDR5 Memory

It'll cost me only £87 which is £30 less than the Saphhire 6870.

Will it work with my motherboard though?
July 10, 2012 8:44:46 AM

Alrite guys, all I want to know now, is will the following parts work together?

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATAIII 6Gb/s 16MB Cache 3.5 inch Internal Hard Drive OEM - £48.64

Intel Sandybridge i5-2500K Unlocked Core i5 Quad-Core Processor (3.30GHz, 6MB Cache, Socket 1155) - £164

Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 LGA1155 ATX 4xDDR3, 2xUSB3.0, 5.1Audio, GA-Z68XP-UD3 - £109

XFX ATI Radeon HD6850 Graphics Card PCI-e 1024 MB GDDR5 Memory - £87


G-Skill 4GBXL Ripjaws X for Intel Sandybridge Platforms DDR3 PC12800 1600MHz 4GB Kit - £24

LiteOn IHAS124-19C 24x Internal DVDRW Black Bulk SATA? Software Included - £16.30

Antec Three Hundred Midi Case - £44

XFX P1-450S-U2B9 Pro Series Core Edition 450W Power Supply (PSU) - £36

Thanks so much for all your help especially Proximon- appreciated mate :) 



July 10, 2012 8:48:07 AM

ok from a first glance, if the blue is your only hard drive at least up it to a black

black = faster an power hungry
blue = medium and umm medium
green = slow an low energy

ram confuses me and never heard of xfx (im in autralia) but rest seems fine

nice to see ebuyer still running, built my first system with parts from them 10 years ago (im english i just got sick of the weather)
July 10, 2012 8:55:11 AM

Alrite mate thanks, I'm still confused whether or not the motherboard will fit in the case, it's mainly because I don't know what to look for when choosing a case- How do you know whether it will fit in the case? :S Just asking. Nice to see someone that's been in the UK lol. VAT is a pain in the arse lol :p 
a c 113 B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2012 9:06:37 AM

Well, that does help. I see that you want the stronger CPU for the non-gaming uses.

Sure, the 6850 is fine. You'll get what you pay for there.

However, I don't see how you are going to get a HDD, DVD drive, case, PSU, and GPU and still stay within your budget.

You need to consider an i3 and dropping the SSD.
July 10, 2012 9:07:08 AM

its an atx board in a case that can do either m-atx or atx so fine
a c 113 B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2012 9:09:28 AM

Ooops new list.

Yes, that's more reasonable. What if you got an i5 2400 and upped the RAM to 8GB?
July 10, 2012 9:23:08 AM

Hmm might do that, whats the difference between the two ;x (the i5 2400 and the i5 2500k)
July 10, 2012 9:30:39 AM

Now this is going to sound like a ridiculously stupid question- but do I need a GPU with the parts list I mentioned? :/  urgh.
July 10, 2012 9:30:51 AM

cant overclock the 2400...
July 10, 2012 9:32:06 AM

XFX ATI Radeon HD6850 Graphics Card PCI-e 1024 MB GDDR5 Memory - £87 =gpu lol (graphics processing unit)
July 10, 2012 9:32:11 AM

Thought so ::) 

I'll probably get the 2400 then and get 8GB of ram.

July 10, 2012 9:34:01 AM

double post
a c 113 B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2012 9:50:27 AM

anwix said:
Thought so ::) 

I'll probably get the 2400 then and get 8GB of ram.


Given your usage that seems to me like the best option. Be sure that your Win 7 is 64-bit.
July 10, 2012 9:52:08 AM

Alrite, already have a copy of Windows 7 64 bit so shouldn't be a problem. Thanks so much all of you for your help. Really appreciate it. I just hope the build works. Just slightly worried about the PSU not having enough power- its only 450W will it work? :S
July 10, 2012 10:41:40 AM

Thank you so much mate, I really appreciate the time you took out to help me :) 
July 10, 2012 10:48:37 AM

One last question... are you sure that the parts I've listed will work with each other. Dad's having a massive go at me, he'll go insane if it doesn't work. Especially like the graphics card and the motherboard? Urgh, I just need lots of reassurance as it's annoying if I buy it and it don't work together.
July 10, 2012 11:02:40 AM

processor fits motherboard.... motherboard has a pcie 2.0 port... graphics card is pcie 2.0

ram should work and hate your case (fractal design for the win lol)
July 10, 2012 11:14:04 AM

Urgh so shall I change RAM then?
a c 113 B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2012 11:29:46 AM

He said RAM should work :) 

It will work, especially at the stock speeds you will be running. Let it default to 1333, as it will, and it will be very compatible.

Tell dad that I have advised many thousands of builds, and am the author of the guide in my sig that has been up here in the sticky section for 4 years. I have made perhaps two errors in that time.
July 10, 2012 11:39:49 AM

Oh my thanks soooo much :D  Cheers
July 13, 2012 11:45:07 AM

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP :(  The graphics card came through today, and guess what in the minimum requirements list it says it needs a 500W PSU whilst mine will only be 450W looks like its your 3rd mistake then in the 4 years then eh? :S
July 13, 2012 2:38:31 PM

please- anyone? :/ 
a c 113 B Homebuilt system
July 13, 2012 4:28:53 PM

Proximon said:
http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=264

Total system draw from the wall will be under 300W.


No, it's not a mistake.

It's true that a very poor PSU rated for 500W can only deliver 300W of power though. That's why you bought a high quality PSU.

Here is the total draw of a 6850 system.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/10/22/at...

Further confirmation
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/amds-radeon-6870-685...

Actual draws of all modern video cards (not total system draws)
http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=264


The seller of the card says that because they don't know which PSU you purchased. You can read the PSU guide linked in my signature, or you can trust me.




July 13, 2012 6:18:58 PM

Alrite, thanks mate, if I have any further queries I know who to ask. lol.
July 16, 2012 9:54:09 PM

Built everything- however one BIG problem.

Everythings fine- well at least it seems to me when I look at the cables etc.

Anyway when I turn it on, what happens is that the fans start spinning and the PC almost just starts but then a second later it powers down- have I missed anything :c
July 17, 2012 10:39:16 AM

Yep thanks mate, figured it out myself last night, I'd forgotten to plug in the 4/8 Pin CPU power connector. Thanks very much.
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