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Will I get BBottleneck issues with a core 13 - 3220 and a GTX 660?

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November 20, 2012 1:17:38 AM

I'm hoping to buy a new gaming rig, specs:

Intel Core i3 3220 3.3Ghz (3rd Generation)
Axle Geforce GTX 660 2GB DDR5
Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H
Axle Twister 500W 75% efficient
Corsair 4GB XMS3 1600 Mhz CL9 DDR3 stick
WD Caviar Green 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6GBPS

Will I get any bottleneck issues with my CPU + GPU? I need to run all the up coming games without any lag :)  (Not much of a Multi player fan)

Have I selected a good combination? or should I go with a Intel Core i5 3470 3.1Ghz (3rd Generation) and a GTX 660 (Its kinda out of my budget :(  )?

Thank you :) 
November 20, 2012 3:54:10 AM

The i5 is better if you can swing it. If not, the i3 is capable but it will strain with upcoming games which are increasingly well threaded for quad cores - both Frostbite 2 and CryEngine 3 along with RAGE make good use of quads and they power a few games.

More importantly, get a better PSU that won't blow and take out your parts - something like Corsair's CX600 on a budget.
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November 20, 2012 4:16:51 AM

An i3 3220 would not bottleneck even a GTX 670. And since you don't play multiplayer than much, where most of the CPU bottlenecks occur, you're good.

"How Many CPU Cores is Enough for Gaming": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4PDoy-mi0A

For now, 2 cores are good. I don't know about Crysis 3 though. Hehe
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November 20, 2012 5:00:00 AM

Thank you guys for replying.

What if I select a core i5 - 3470 3.1Ghz (3rd Generation) and a PowerColor Radeon HD 7770 1GB DDR5?

Will I still be able to max out games? :) 
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November 20, 2012 6:27:16 AM

What resolution do you play at? If you play at 1080p, then no.

Best Graphics Cards For The Money: October 2012
Says for the 7770, "Good 1920x1200 performance in most games, some with lowered detail"



At least a GTX 660 or an HD 7850 for a consistent excellent performance at max settings at 1080p because of their 2GB memory.
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November 20, 2012 9:25:03 AM

coolermaster_72 said:
I play at res 1336 x 768 :) 


If it's a compromise between i5 or 660 definitely more GPU muscle. I would swap out your PSU for something a bit better such a corsair or seasonic at the same wattage.
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November 20, 2012 9:32:35 AM

darth pravus said:
If it's a compromise between i5 or 660 definitely more GPU muscle. I would swap out your PSU for something a bit better such a corsair or seasonic at the same wattage.


So you think i3 - 3220 and a GTX 660 is a better combination? :) 

for the PSU, what about this:

Corsair CX430 v2 430W 80+
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November 20, 2012 9:44:23 AM

coolermaster_72 said:
So you think i3 - 3220 and a GTX 660 is a better combination? :) 

for the PSU, what about this:

Corsair CX430 v2 430W 80+


Definitely the better combo. That will have enough watts for your system and is pretty good. Maybe stretch to the 500w version for upgradability but that's a good choice.
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November 20, 2012 9:53:30 AM

darth pravus said:
Definitely the better combo. That will have enough watts for your system and is pretty good. Maybe stretch to the 500w version for upgradability but that's a good choice.


Do you think with this combo, ill be able to max out pretty much all the games in 2013? (except for crysis 3? ) :D 

you guys have not heard of the brand Axle huh? :)  Its pretty much famous in the country I live, and most of the shops sells its and a bit cheaper than the corsair PSU's.
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November 20, 2012 10:05:43 AM

coolermaster_72 said:
Do you think with this combo, ill be able to max out pretty much all the games in 2013? (except for crysis 3? ) :D 

you guys have not heard of the brand Axle huh? :)  Its pretty much famous in the country I live, and most of the shops sells its and a bit cheaper than the corsair PSU's.


Never heard of it myself. You will max a fair few. Not crysis 2 or metro but it's a good rig that will last you several years.
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November 20, 2012 10:13:05 AM

darth pravus said:
Never heard of it myself. You will max a fair few. Not crysis 2 or metro but it's a good rig that will last you several years.


I'll be atleast be able to play on medium settings right?

a big fan of METRO AND CRYSIS :D 
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November 20, 2012 10:48:43 AM

coolermaster_72 said:
Guys I checked some pics of the GTX 660 from the Geforce site and notices that the cable required to connect the Monitor is not a standard one.

See: http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-...

I use some things like this to connect my Samsung LED monitor to my current VGA card :

http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00gvNtfhkPJGbW/RGB-M...


Most GPUs will have those same outputs, DVI and HDMI. If your monitor is limited to VGA input, you will need a DVI to VGA adapter. These are often included in the box with your GPU.
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November 20, 2012 11:07:47 AM

coolermaster_72 said:
I'll be atleast be able to play on medium settings right?

a big fan of METRO AND CRYSIS :D 


High but not maxed. Easily playable on medium I should think.

Let us know how you like your new rig when you get it.
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November 20, 2012 12:56:36 PM

hafijur said:
I would defo go for i5 3470. Massive difference overall performance wise gaming and video encoding. i3 3220 will be on its limit with a gtx660.


The gaming difference is small in most games. There are some exception admittedly.

If he got th I5 he would have to drop in graphics power massively which would have more of an FPS effect then a Proc switch up.
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November 20, 2012 1:30:52 PM

hafijur said:
darth pravus, imo I would save up for the i5 any day of the week as it would mean that it will have more performance for the future.

this is not like for like but similar i3 old gen vs i5 with gtx 670:
http://forum.avsim.net/topic/385592-i3-54042ghz-vs-i5-3...

Massive gains to be had with i5 quad on minimum fps and and average and max fps.


I would save up but if he gets an i5 he will only get a 7770 which is very poor.
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November 20, 2012 1:56:37 PM

hafijur said:
boyabunda Interesting that video was. Shame he didn't say what clock speed it was running other then the cpu he was testing with I believe was a 6 core one with disable cores. Either way I think i3 + ht makes it just enough for gaming. I would still prefer i5 quad gforr extra oomph, and video encoding and recording gameplay will need really something like an i5 quad to do it smoother as well as fast hdd/ssd.


Hyper-threading is probably unnoticeable and sometimes have a more negative effect than a positive effect in games.



Okay, you prefer a quad core CPU. You probably have the budget for it. Meanwhile, OP here stated that his budget is the limiting factor on his build.
So, an i3 is not a bad CPU choice for him. The video is for budget-conscious folks like the OP.

Here the clock speed is stated, still no significant/noticeable difference between two and four cores.

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November 20, 2012 1:59:13 PM

I got a very limited budget at the moment :/ 

But if I can stay 1 or 2 months patiently, I can go for i5 ivy bridge and a GTX 660 :)  but I will have to wait months before I could play all the new games :( 

Anyway guys, if I can swing into an i5 + a GTX 660 within 2 months, I will definitely go for it :D 

If I buy an i5 (3rd Gen) and a GTX 660, will it be future proof for max 4 years? :D 
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November 20, 2012 2:08:34 PM

coolermaster_72 said:
I got a very limited budget at the moment :/ 

But if I can stay 1 or 2 months patiently, I can go for i5 ivy bridge and a GTX 660 :)  but I will have to wait months before I could play all the new games :( 

Anyway guys, if I can swing into an i5 + a GTX 660 within 2 months, I will definitely go for it :D 

If I buy an i5 (3rd Gen) and a GTX 660, will it be future proof for max 4 years? :D 


That would only be beneficial for you. A more future proof rig. Yeah maybe 4 years max.

I advice wait til January 2013 (~3 months) because the HD 8850 & 8870 is rumored to be launced that time. It would bring the GTX 660 price down.

Possible Radeon HD 8870 and 8850 Specs Leaked to the Web

But more waiting in vain. hehe
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November 20, 2012 2:20:28 PM

boyabunda said:
That would only be beneficial for you. A more future proof rig. Yeah maybe 4 years max.

I advice wait til January 2013 (~3 months) because the HD 8850 & 8870 is rumored to be launced that time. It would bring the GTX 660 price down.

Possible Radeon HD 8870 and 8850 Specs Leaked to the Web

But more waiting in vain. hehe


I have more freedom for gaming in December :) 

So I'll see if I can go with an i5 in December or I'll go with a core i3 :)  it wouldn't be that bad right? :cry:  :pt1cable: 
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