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July 10, 2012 9:35:35 PM

Okay so i have looked into actually building computers very little haha :??: 
I have hunted down some parts on the egg and came up with these

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

RAIDMAX Tornado ATX-238WR Black / Red SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

GIGABYTE GV-R657OC-1GI Radeon HD 6570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Any suggestions as well?
a b B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2012 9:45:32 PM

500w PSU is plenty for that build. What is your budget? You might find that the 6570 does not perform even close to the level you would like. Also this 6670 is the same price but more performance:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would highly recommend getting something of this caliber if not higher:

7750: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also what monitor resolution do you plan on using, do you have an optical drive or operating system yet?
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July 10, 2012 9:52:51 PM

Thanks for the reply
I will definitely take that 6670 though.

As far as monitor resolution I do have 1920x1080 (though my monitor doesnt have dvi but it does have vga and Hdmi)

I believe any old optical drive would do? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Also, I do not need to worry about an operating system.
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July 10, 2012 9:53:20 PM

If you could give us a specific(ish) budget and tell us whether or not you'd like to only purchase from Newegg, I could try to put something together that's better than what you've got there.

As it is, all I can really tell you is that the 6570 is not really a gaming card at all - so that needs to change. Additionally, you could get a bit more bang for your buck out of the CPU by either getting a Phenom II X4 965 (or 955) or an i3-2100. On your PSU, the CX500 is alright, but I'm a bit skeptical of whether or not it delivers that 500W (its older brother, the CX600, is actually a 500W unit). Also, I'm not too knowledgeable on the differences between mechanical disk drives, but I'd trust a 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black over a review-less Toshiba drive, but that's up to you. The Caviar Black is about $30 more.
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July 10, 2012 9:55:53 PM

Oh yes, sorry, i wouldn't really want to go over 600 dollars. 550 is just right really
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a b B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2012 9:57:14 PM

mousseng said:
If you could give us a specific(ish) budget and tell us whether or not you'd like to only purchase from Newegg, I could try to put something together that's better than what you've got there.

As it is, all I can really tell you is that the 6570 is not really a gaming card at all - so that needs to change. Additionally, you could get a bit more bang for your buck out of the CPU by either getting a Phenom II X4 965 (or 955) or an i3-2100. On your PSU, the CX500 is alright, but I'm a bit skeptical of whether or not it delivers that 500W (its older brother, the CX600, is actually a 500W unit). Also, I'm not too knowledgeable on the differences between mechanical disk drives, but I'd trust a 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black over a review-less Toshiba drive, but that's up to you. The Caviar Black is about $30 more.


Oh jeez, I must have skipped over that FX-4100....

mousseng is right, go with a phenomII X4 or an i3-2XXX if you want a stronger gamer. Personally I would chose the i3-2120. I've had FX, Phenom, and various intels lately and the i3 was an outstanding gamer for my kids unit until I upgraded them to an i5. Not because they needed it but because I wanted more power for folding@home.

But yes a specific budget would be nice because then we can all work our magic and show you some stellar budget builds.
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July 10, 2012 9:57:56 PM

Newegg is definitely nice but im open to anywhere. (short replies everywhere xD )
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a b B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2012 10:05:03 PM

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
MSI H77MA-G43 LGA 1155: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
HIS iCooler H775F1GD Radeon HD 7750: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
ASUS 24X DVD Burner : http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM : http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

And I let you keep the same RAM and Case. Cases are a matter of personal preference as long as they have sufficient cooling. The RAM you picked will be fine also. This stuff combined with your case and RAM would be $588.
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July 10, 2012 10:11:24 PM

Why thank you, this is helpful.
I have heard that the Intel Core i3 had a few small cons when paired with gaming, i see that you have experience with it though so i will take your opinion over randoms.
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a b B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2012 10:21:18 PM

TkLightning said:
Why thank you, this is helpful.
I have heard that the Intel Core i3 had a few small cons when paired with gaming, i see that you have experience with it though so i will take your opinion over randoms.


That all depends on what games your into, some games like RPG MMO prefer a quad core. However most current games only use 2 cores at the most.
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July 10, 2012 10:26:29 PM

Could you suggest any good AMD Proccesors and motherboards then?
I understand they are decent yet affordable, and i do like options!
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July 10, 2012 10:32:26 PM

Intel i3-2120 - $125 + $7
ASRock B75 Pro3 - $94 + $12
G.SKILL Ripjaws 2x4GB (DDR3 1600) - $48 + $9
Raidmax Tornado - $46 + $20
Seasonic M12II 520W - $61 + $14
Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB - $80
ASUS HD7750 - $110 + $11
Total - $637

This is including shipping, and it seems that stick and I came up with close to the same setup. The only thing I could suggest doing to get the pricetag underneath $600 CAD would be to drop the CPU down from an i3 to something like a Pentium G620 for $64 + $7. If you do that, that brings the total cost to about $576 before taxes - this would allow you to move up from the 7750 to a 7770 like the MSI R7770. That would total up to $591.

You could do any combination of these things, though - $600CAD won't get you much. The Pentium is still a relatively capable processor for gaming, and you'd easily be able to drop in something like an i5-3570 when you get the cash.
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July 10, 2012 10:45:41 PM

stickg1 said:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ah, you just beat me to it. Yeah, if you're looking in the same price range as the i3/H77 or B75, then the PII 965 will be right there with it.

The only caveat about the 965 is that for it to match the i3's performance you'll need to overclock it. When you overclock, it's always recommended that you get an aftermarket cooler for it (stock coolers are only designed to keep the thermals in check for the voltages/clock rates it comes with).

The only other CPU priced lower than that that I could recommend would be this Athlon II X4 640. It can be overclocked as well, but it'll still be slower than the 965.
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July 10, 2012 10:52:45 PM

But I take it you would suggest I buy an Intel i3 then upgrade it afterwards?
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July 10, 2012 11:00:24 PM

I second the PII 965 BE.

Very solid CPU for a very reasonable price. Overclocks well too.
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a b B Homebuilt system
July 10, 2012 11:03:01 PM

TkLightning said:
But I take it you would suggest I buy an Intel i3 then upgrade it afterwards?


That's kind of iffy, because these boards we have been picking for the Intel build either don't support overclocking or don't do it well. So if you planned on upgrading to say an i5-2400 later or the ivy equivilent, you would be fine. That is if you picked mousseng's B75 board. My H67 I picked MIGHT be ivy compatible with a BIOS flash but dont quote me on that.

The sandys are very capable though and the i5-2400 is no slouch.
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July 10, 2012 11:03:03 PM

TkLightning said:
But I take it you would suggest I buy an Intel i3 then upgrade it afterwards?

Simply put, yes. Given the max performance of each upgrade path and their respective power requirements, you're really best off going Intel in this case.

Another thing I'd suggest is trying to find a local hardware store, because shipping prices in Canada are insane.
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July 10, 2012 11:07:58 PM

mousseng said:
Simply put, yes. Given the max performance of each upgrade path and their respective power requirements, you're really best off going Intel in this case.

Another thing I'd suggest is trying to find a local hardware store, because shipping prices in Canada are insane.



o.o i know, but i live in a not so technological town :/ 
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July 10, 2012 11:14:21 PM

stickg1 said:
That's kind of iffy, because these boards we have been picking for the Intel build either don't support overclocking or don't do it well. So if you planned on upgrading to say an i5-2400 later or the ivy equivilent, you would be fine. That is if you picked mousseng's B75 board. My H67 I picked MIGHT be ivy compatible with a BIOS flash but dont quote me on that.

The sandys are very capable though and the i5-2400 is no slouch.

Actually, you picked an H77 board, so he's good on that with Ivy, too. The other thing that concerned me though was power consumption - remember, the FX-8120/8150 (the only worthwhile AM3+ upgrades atm) are 125W CPUs at stock clocks. And since their draw is overclocking, that'll push it even higher.

So, I said the best price/performance deal would be Intel - you'll have to purchase fewer parts. Getting the i5-2400 or something like it, you'll just have to buy the CPU. With AMD, you'd have to get a new PSU as well as a new heatsink for it, which would run you well over $150 extra.
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July 10, 2012 11:29:53 PM

Well then i guess I am pretty much decided then.

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430

Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge

ASUS HD7750

ASRock B75 Pro3

ASUS 24X DVD Burner

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM

And the Ram i selected, though might change the case :p 
Thanks guys :D 
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