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July 10, 2012 11:07:53 PM

So this is the first time ever i will be building my own pc and here are hte parts i am thinking of:

NOTE: its the canadian newegg website

Graphics card
gtx 560 ti 1GB http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Processor
ivy bridge i5-3570k http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Motherboard

ASUS P8Z77-V http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

RAM
Corsair Vengeance 8GB http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

HDD
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Power Supply
Antec EarthWatts 750W http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Case
Cooler Master RC-692 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...


so here are my questions: (striked ones are answered)

1. Are all these parts compatible one with each other and does it all fit in my case?

2. I am planning on using this pc for gaming, do some video editing (my current 500gb HDD will be used as my secondary HDD to record) and next year im going to college in computer science. i guess a gaming pc will be good enough for that program, but im not 100% sure. so would this pc be good enough to do these things.

3. Is this motherboard good for what i want to do with my pc? should i get this instead? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... or do you have another proposition?

4. i listed a PSU in the list because i have no idea whats the power of the one i currently have. all i know is its a PRO86+. it doesnt have any sticker on it or whatever. heres my current pc spec (it might help knowing if it would be able to run the new build). google says it could be anything from 325W to 625W.
9800gt 512mb
intel core 2 duo 3GHz
4gb ram ddr3
P5QL pro motherboard
500gb HDD


5. apart from those pc parts, what else do i need to build the pc? i think i would have the screw drivers needed, but is there something else? for example, i need to put something on the processor, idk what it is, but does it come with the CPU? if not, where can i buy it? so yeah, i pretty much need to know everything i need.

6. I could buy additional fans. these are the one im thinking of http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683... but would you recommend it or are there already enough fans? i might overclock in the future, so would it help adding them? if so, how many would you buy, where would you place them on my case and would you make them blow air in or out of the case?


I know there are a lot of questions, but im really worried something wont work so im making sure what im doing is right.

Thanks in advance!

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July 10, 2012 11:26:44 PM

budget? what parts do you not need?

im canadian. no worries about good deals that you might miss out on
July 10, 2012 11:27:43 PM

I would get a 6950 minimum if you want best performance out of your pc I would do this

1.670(best)
2.7950
3.7850
4.6950(minimum for best performance)
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July 10, 2012 11:30:04 PM

It will do everything you need it to do. I suggest you get a new PSU, because over time, PSU wattage declines. If you're doing serious video editing, upgrade to the i7+12GB/16GB RAM. If you are overclocking, a CPU cooler is a necessity, but the one that comes with the CPU is adequate, but if you overclock, you'll have really high temps., which is why a different CPU cooler is recommended. Those fans have some bad reviews, and you can get better fans, but your case already has enough.
July 10, 2012 11:31:59 PM

He's doing video editing, so unless the program he uses doesn't utilize CUDA, I would stick to an Nvidia card.

670>560 Ti 448>560 Ti>560 Ti
July 10, 2012 11:35:22 PM

how would you know if hes doing a video editing build?
July 10, 2012 11:35:58 PM

TheBigTroll said:
budget? what parts do you not need?

im canadian. no worries about good deals that you might miss out on


id say around 1000$ not including the taxes (if there are any) and the shipping fees.

my brand restrictions are intel and nvidia only.
July 10, 2012 11:36:38 PM

obsama1 said:
It will do everything you need it to do. I suggest you get a new PSU, because over time, PSU wattage declines. If you're doing serious video editing, upgrade to the i7+12GB/16GB RAM. If you are overclocking, a CPU cooler is a necessity, but the one that comes with the CPU is adequate, but if you overclock, you'll have really high temps., which is why a different CPU cooler is recommended. Those fans have some bad reviews, and you can get better fans, but your case already has enough.


yeah, im not planning on doing heavy video editing.
July 10, 2012 11:36:51 PM

I would get a 670 and call it good if you can fit it into your budget.
July 10, 2012 11:39:53 PM

alright guys! so far you answered 3 of my questions. but these ones are still standing. thanks a lot sa far!

questions still unanswered:

1. Are all these parts compatible one with each other and does it all fit in my case?

3. Is this motherboard good for what i want to do with my pc? should i get this instead? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6813128545 or do you have another proposition?

5. apart from those pc parts, what else do i need to build the pc? i think i would have the screw drivers needed, but is there something else? for example, i need to put something on the processor, idk what it is, but does it come with the CPU? if not, where can i buy it? so yeah, i pretty much need to know everything i need.
July 10, 2012 11:41:50 PM

They are compatable

mother board is fine

That is all you need other than maybe ssd
July 10, 2012 11:42:06 PM

1) Yes, all those parts are compatible with each other and will fit your case fine.

2) I can't imagine anything that machine would lack for college in the way of hardware.

3) Both motherboards are good quality. The differences will depend on your needs and preferences. But either choice will be fine.

4) Use the PSU calculator http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/ , and then look for a quality name. The PSU you spec'd is OK. 2 high amperage +12V rails.

5) You will need an optical drive. And the operating system, of course. You may want to use an after market cooler if you plan on O/Cing the processor.

6) A front fan to pull in air and a rear fan to exhaust warm air is usually fine. With the top of the case vented, convection will remove quite a bit of the heat generated by the processor and card, anyway.

Your selection is fine. Some folks here will have suggestions for 'improvements', but it's good to go as is...
July 10, 2012 11:43:02 PM

Quote:
2. I am planning on using this pc for gaming, do some video editing (my current 500gb HDD will be used as my secondary HDD to record) and next year im going to college in computer science. i guess a gaming pc will be good enough for that program, but im not 100% sure. so would this pc be good enough to do these things.


What kind of budget are you working with? I could suggest a full system.

Quote:
3. Is this motherboard good for what i want to do with my pc? should i get this instead? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6813128545 or do you have another proposition?


I like the Gigabyte but either one is a good choice.

Quote:

4. i listed a PSU in the list because i have no idea whats the power of the one i currently have. all i know is its a PRO86+. it doesnt have any sticker on it or whatever. heres my current pc spec (it might help knowing if it would be able to run the new build). google says it could be anything from 325W to 625W.
9800gt 512mb
intel core 2 duo 3GHz
4gb ram ddr3
P5QL pro motherboard
500gb HDD


Don't always trust online PSU calculators as they're nowhere near perfect. Today's GPUs are so energy efficient that a 750W will handle everything you need and then some.

Quote:
5. apart from those pc parts, what else do i need to build the pc? i think i would have the screw drivers needed, but is there something else? for example, i need to put something on the processor, idk what it is, but does it come with the CPU? if not, where can i buy it? so yeah, i pretty much need to know everything i need.


The main components needed:
- Case (includes all screws and mounts)
- power supply (has all connections and ties)
- Motherboard (includes SATA cable, I/O bracket, and driver CD)
- CPU (includes fan)
- Aftermarket cooler (optional, includes thermal paste)
- RAM
- Storage (SSD/HD/Optical)
- Video Card (includes driver disc and monitor adapters)
- Monitor
- Operating system
- Keyboard / Mouse

There's no need to waste money on things you don't need like static wrist straps, LED lights, fan controllers, screens, ventilated slot covers, network cables, things of that nature.

Quote:
6. I could buy additional fans. these are the one im thinking of http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6835103061 but would you recommend it or are there already enough fans? i might overclock in the future, so would it help adding them? if so, how many would you buy, where would you place them on my case and would you make them blow air in or out of the case?


You can only buy as many fans as your case has mounts for, so it doesn't make sense to get those until you get your build up and running and see which way your air is going to flow before you purchase extra fans.
July 10, 2012 11:43:03 PM

2fast4thetown_down said:
I would get a 670 and call it good if you can fit it into your budget.


im getting the gtx 560 ti because it has a good price for its power. im a nvidia fan and im only getting their cards. but im planning on getting a new card next year.
July 10, 2012 11:46:39 PM

moddedmatt said:
im getting the gtx 560 ti because it has a good price for its power. im a nvidia fan and im only getting their cards. but im planning on getting a new card next year.

Okay the 560 ti is one of the best cards for the money.
July 10, 2012 11:46:54 PM

if you are looking at the 560ti, just wait it out and get the gtx660 that is coming out later on. honestly, i am a nvidia fan but i dont see whats wrong with the 7850 given by how little power it uses and how well it does in games
July 10, 2012 11:48:04 PM

I love the 7850 that I am getting it is factory oc'd and faster than a 7870
July 10, 2012 11:48:51 PM

thanks to these 2 complete answers clutch and g-unit, but about the 5th question, i wasnt talking about pc parts, since ill be using my current dvd burner, win7, mouse and keyboard. what i meant are tools and items ill need when building my pc like the grease you put on the processor and where can i buy it if it doesnt come with the processor?

also, my budget is about 1000$ not including extra fees.
July 10, 2012 11:50:41 PM

TheBigTroll said:
if you are looking at the 560ti, just wait it out and get the gtx660 that is coming out later on. honestly, i am a nvidia fan but i dont see whats wrong with the 7850 given by how little power it uses and how well it does in games


how much will this gtx660 be?

2fast4thetown_down said:
It comes with the proccessor


Thanks. i guess theres nothing else i need?
July 10, 2012 11:54:52 PM

moddedmatt said:
thanks to these 2 complete answers clutch and g-unit, but about the 5th question, i wasnt talking about pc parts, since ill be using my current dvd burner, win7, mouse and keyboard. what i meant are tools and items ill need when building my pc like the grease you put on the processor and where can i buy it if it doesnt come with the processor?

also, my budget is about 1000$ not including extra fees.


What I was showing was that everything comes with one part or another. I see a lot of first time builders who include things where they're essentially buying the same part twice or they're buying something that they absolutely just don't need. It doesn't make sense to spend money on useless items like that when you could put that money back in the hardware and get the best bang for your buck. All you need to build a PC is the parts themselves and a good Philips head screw driver, that's it.

On a $1K build this is what I'd recommend:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($246.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($20.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $942.87
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
July 10, 2012 11:56:08 PM

moddedmatt said:
how much will this gtx660 be?



Thanks. i guess theres nothing else i need?

no one knows but I would guess 400-500 dollars and you are good
July 10, 2012 11:57:12 PM

it should be around the 250 for the 660 and 299 for the 660ti (if they have one). these are rumours btw.

the heatsink that comes with a processor sucks. go out and get yourself a hyper 212 evo. it comes with everything you need to mount it and get it going. its 29.99 at ncix.com. comes with arctic cooling mx-4 paste which is good stuff

July 11, 2012 12:02:37 AM

TheBigTroll said:
it should be around the 250 for the 660 and 299 for the 660ti (if they have one). these are rumours btw.

the heatsink that comes with a processor sucks. go out and get yourself a hyper 212 evo. it comes with everything you need to mount it and get it going. its 29.99 at ncix.com. comes with arctic cooling mx-4 paste which is good stuff


You don't need a Hyper 212 if you're not going to overclock but yes that is far better than the crappy stock fan included.

I've heard the 660TI was going to be priced at ~$300 - ~$325 and the reference 660 was going to be ~$250 - $300 but that's only speculation.
July 11, 2012 12:02:39 AM

g-unit1111 said:
What I was showing was that everything comes with one part or another. I see a lot of first time builders who include things where they're essentially buying the same part twice or they're buying something that they absolutely just don't need. It doesn't make sense to spend money on useless items like that when you could put that money back in the hardware and get the best bang for your buck. All you need to build a PC is the parts themselves and a good Philips head screw driver, that's it.

On a $1K build this is what I'd recommend:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($246.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($20.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $942.87
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)


it does look like a great build, but i still need to see how much it would be on the canadian website. although,

-shouldnt i get the case i linked in the op instead?

-im looking for a 1tb HDD

-for the graphics card, it looks great and all, but i feel some of the money goes for useless VRAM since im using a 1680*1050 monitor
July 11, 2012 12:10:08 AM

id change the build for canadian prices

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/bMJZ

here are prices that need changing

1:you can get the hyper 212 evo at ncix.com for 29.99. check under sale banner
2:the 1tb hard drive is 79.99 at ncix.com check under the sale banner once again
3:if you would like a all black case, go to canadacomputers.com and they have a all black version of the antec 302
4:if you dont like the white power supply, just get yourself a xfx 650w from ncix.com

July 11, 2012 12:16:39 AM

Windows 7: You say you have your own Win7. Is it a retail version or OEM? The OEM ver. can't (legally) be installed on a different computer that it was originally.
July 11, 2012 12:19:58 AM

clutchc said:
Windows 7: You say you have your own Win7. Is it a retail version or OEM? The OEM ver. can't (legally) be installed on a different computer that it was originally.

its a retail copy
July 11, 2012 12:25:19 AM

how much do they even cost?
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