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Small Upgrade or Just Build A New Rigg For Planetside 2?

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November 21, 2012 6:51:16 AM

Hello Everyone

I have a relatively simple question concerning my computer. It's an old gaming rig (roughly 3 years old) that I have been upgrading as time passes. This month I recently changed the OS, RAM, and video card to play Planet side 2.

In beta I had decent FPS in low population (45 max) and bad in really large scale fights (10 steady). Now I have been browsing around and it seems that when it comes to MMO on such a large scale that CPU's are usually the cause of frame rate drops. I have asked others and they continuously point toward getting an i5 k but this option ultimately means getting a brand new PC and If I have to do that then I am going to get top of the line so I won't need to upgrade for a very long time.

However I feel this computer still has a bit of life in it but due to it being an AMD base pc most have just told me to get ride of it. I need an unbias opinion on what to do with my current system, and if upgrading will inprove performance in Planetside 2.

My Rigg Currently

AMD 9600 Quad core processor 2.3ghz

ASUS M4A78 Plus AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard

G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Ram

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Ram

Western Digital 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" HD

Sapphire Radeon HD6570 1GB

Windows 7 64bit

APEVIA ATX-AS680W-BL 680W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready Power Supply

Now since my board can use an am3 processor I figured I could upgrade to a AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor. Surely I would see some kind of performance boost (at least I hope I would) but I have yet to get a straight answer from veterans or experts. It has immediately been "AMD sucks get an intel" end of conversation. So my question is would upgrading the CPU from 2.3ghz to 3.4ghz (and possibly over clocking) be a viable option compared to flat out buying a new system? Any and all information is much appreciated and thank you for taking the time to read my question.


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November 21, 2012 11:16:10 AM

That is a very good plan to extend the live of your rig. Especially with the current prices on 955/65BE.
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November 21, 2012 11:25:06 AM

It would be a good upgrade and should massively help you out especially if you OC it.

The i5 is a great proc but if you don't have the money to put a new mobo and proc in then the amd is still good.
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November 21, 2012 11:48:20 AM

If you upped to a 955/965, you would have a large increase in FPS
But you need to get rid of that graphics card first, it is doing you no favours.
That will seriously bottleneck you in every game.
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November 21, 2012 1:05:01 PM

BuddiLuva said:
If you upped to a 955/965, you would have a large increase in FPS
But you need to get rid of that graphics card first, it is doing you no favours.
That will seriously bottleneck you in every game.

What would you recommend as a replacement for this video card? It sucks because I just bought it as a replacement for my HD3870 but I can upgrade it again if need be. Ultimately it would be cheaper than acquiring something a brand new rigg.

I am happy to get so many no bias opinions and glad that I don't have to take my pc out to pasture just yet. In fact the mother board I currently use was bought to extend the overall life of the pc in the first place. If you guys can point me to a card that won't bottleneck the new processor I'd be in your debt.
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November 21, 2012 1:07:25 PM

HD7750/70 min or even higher would be my choice all based on budget.
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November 21, 2012 1:39:41 PM

Anything from a HD6850/6870 and up would be good for a 955/965 CPU

Or you could get the Nvidia version which would be the 560Ti(I think) Don't quote me on that though.

Taking your PC out to pasture should never the first option. Try to prolong its life as much as you can. Luckily for you you've got an AM3+ mobo, which might be able to hold you for a little while longer.
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November 21, 2012 1:39:59 PM

rolli59 said:
HD7750/70 min or even higher would be my choice all based on budget.


Hi Rollie thanks for the fast reply, I think I would go ahead and get the 7770 if you feel it wont bottleneck the pc. I really appreciate the time and kind community here. In your opinion would you say it's more the processor or the GPU that is causing the performance issue currently?
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November 21, 2012 1:47:56 PM

ruroni1030 said:
Hi Rollie thanks for the fast reply, I think I would go ahead and get the 7770 if you feel it wont bottleneck the pc. I really appreciate the time and kind community here. In your opinion would you say it's more the processor or the GPU that is causing the performance issue currently?


Definitely GPU. Most games are GPU intensive and rely on GPU much more than CPU.

But there are some exceptions (Skyrim,BF3) etc.
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November 21, 2012 2:40:16 PM

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November 21, 2012 2:57:52 PM


HD7850 if you wish to game at higher resolutions ...

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November 21, 2012 3:37:17 PM

Wisecracker said:
HD7850 if you wish to game at higher resolutions ...


Higher res is nice and all but Frames is my biggest concern for the moment. Truth be told higher resolutions look strange to me I've almost always played on low resolutions. Nothing over 1280 by 1024.
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November 21, 2012 3:44:53 PM

BuddiLuva said:
Anything from a HD6850/6870 and up would be good for a 955/965 CPU

Or you could get the Nvidia version which would be the 560Ti(I think) Don't quote me on that though.

Taking your PC out to pasture should never the first option. Try to prolong its life as much as you can. Luckily for you you've got an AM3+ mobo, which might be able to hold you for a little while longer.


Thanks Buddi, I am currently looking at

Radeon HD 7750 Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition Radeon HD 7850
CC 850MHz 1150MHz 900MHz
Stream P 512 Stream Processors 640 Stream Processors 1024 Stream Processors
Effective Mem Clock1200MHz (4.8Gbps) 1250MHz (5.0Gbps) 1200MHz (4.8Gbps)


They all seem to be neck and neck in performance (unless I'm missing something) and it seems to boil down to what is most important (clock speed, stream processors, effective memory clock)
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November 21, 2012 4:03:39 PM

BuddiLuva said:
Definitely GPU. Most games are GPU intensive and rely on GPU much more than CPU.

But there are some exceptions (Skyrim,BF3) etc.


Planetside 2 is known as a CPU hog. In fact it's an incredibly cpu intensive game and when checking FPS in game it shows you what is bottle necking frames. Mine says CPU 99.9% of the time. Another thing that is making me scartch my head is that I am comparing my current card with new ones and they seem to have nearly the same performance. Is there something specific about GPU's that I need to look at?
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