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July 11, 2012 3:03:17 AM

Hello!

I'm looking for some advice building a PC, within the next few weeks in or around $1140 shipped before rebates.

My main goals are to play modern games on high/ultra settings on a 1920x1080 resolution and to build something with a good six year lifespan.

I already have peripherals and a hard drive and disc drive so they don't need to be included. I would prefer to buy from NCIX.com or any other Canadian source if possible, and I would love for this thing to crush older titles as well: Deus Ex: Human Revolution and the Source engine would be incredible (Particularity Counter Strike: Global Offensive).

My general idea is below
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: AMD Performance Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($367.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Cooler Master 700W ATX12V Power Supply ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $924.24
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)


One main question I have in this build is the video card. I'm not sure whether I should go all out and have it eat most of my budget, or should I skimp back a bit and try and find some value in there for an SSD.

Finally I would like to try and stick with an AMD card and to avoid ASUS if possible but if there is better value to be had, I also understand.

Regards and thanks in advance!

More about : build 1140 game rig

July 11, 2012 4:13:57 AM

COOLER MASTER Elite 361 RC-361-KKR350 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mini Tower Computer Case
$49.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor
$189.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
$34.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAB
$47.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Z77 ATX Intel Motherboard
$134.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

XFX Core Edition PRO650W (P1-650S-NLB9) 650W ATX12V 2.2 & ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$89.99 and a $10 rebate makes the final price $79.99.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe MX MKNSSDCR120GB-MX 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$114.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

PowerColor PCS+ AX7970 3GBD5-2DHPPV Radeon HD 7970 VORTEXII 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
$479.99 and a $20 rebate makes the final price $459.99.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

The final cost for this build comes th $1117.92 and the video card has been bumped up to the next level to a 7970 so that should future proof the Pc a little bit more. With a computer that is being used for gaming the most important part is the video card so a good amount of effort was made to increase t from the 7950 to the 7970 and to not increase the overall cost of the build.
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July 11, 2012 5:31:29 AM

Goodness, thank you for your help. That's quite the system over mine. Being Canadian I can't take advantage of the microcenter value though :( 

Also, another question, why that motherboard in particular? There are plenty of cheaper options and I'm not really sure what to look for exactly in a board. Other than quicker PCI-E 3.0 slots in case I ever want to Crossfire.
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July 11, 2012 5:40:48 AM

turbotortoise said:
Goodness, thank you for your help. That's quite the system over mine. Being Canadian I can't take advantage of the microcenter value though :( 

Also, another question, why that motherboard in particular? There are plenty of cheaper options and I'm not really sure what to look for exactly in a board. Other than quicker PCI-E 3.0 slots in case I ever want to Crossfire.

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 $ 149.99
canada computers work?

and please do not get that cooler master 700 watt PSU . . .
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July 11, 2012 5:52:09 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.49 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($103.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1114.41
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
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July 11, 2012 9:39:14 AM

Anonymous said:
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 $ 149.99
canada computers work?

and please do not get that cooler master 700 watt PSU . . .



No I definitely won't get the CM Power supply, there are much better options.

Canadian PC's get bonus cooling. ;) 
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July 11, 2012 9:41:41 AM

bigcyco1 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.49 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($103.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1114.41
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)


Thanks for your help, I already have drives so I can save some value there, and this is deffinitly in the right direction; however, I'm noticing a trend, everyone is recommending the ASRock Z77 Extreme4, any particular reasons?
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July 11, 2012 10:38:39 AM

turbotortoise said:
Thanks for your help, I already have drives so I can save some value there, and this is deffinitly in the right direction; however, I'm noticing a trend, everyone is recommending the ASRock Z77 Extreme4, any particular reasons?
It's a good mobo for the price offers same features as motherboards that cost more i usually recommend asus though i figured you wouldn't want that
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July 11, 2012 10:49:12 AM

since you already have hard drive you could go with something like this if you prefer PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($198.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($357.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1044.98
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
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July 11, 2012 4:01:29 PM

turbotortoise said:
Goodness, thank you for your help. That's quite the system over mine. Being Canadian I can't take advantage of the microcenter value though :( 

Also, another question, why that motherboard in particular? There are plenty of cheaper options and I'm not really sure what to look for exactly in a board. Other than quicker PCI-E 3.0 slots in case I ever want to Crossfire.



The pci-e 3.0 is not quicker it's just that it allows more bandwidth over the Pci-e 2.0 and it's going to be some time before we can take advantage of that because the current video cards cannot fully saturate the Pci-e 2.0. So we will need a few more generations of video cards before we can take advantage of Pci-e 3.0.
The Asrock boards are a little less expensive than the bigger name boards and have the same feature sets so they are a good value when in a tight low budget.
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July 11, 2012 10:49:42 PM

inzone said:
The pci-e 3.0 is not quicker it's just that it allows more bandwidth over the Pci-e 2.0 and it's going to be some time before we can take advantage of that because the current video cards cannot fully saturate the Pci-e 2.0. So we will need a few more generations of video cards before we can take advantage of Pci-e 3.0.
The Asrock boards are a little less expensive than the bigger name boards and have the same feature sets so they are a good value when in a tight low budget.


Ah, cool. Bandwidth, got it, and it's always nice to have better value options, even if they are spin offs from asus. xD

As far as power is concerned, I would like a little head room to overclock, probably not the video card but I would like to play around with the i5. (hence the cooler) I'm not aware of the power draw numbers on the HD 7 Series, specifically. Power wise, should I be aiming for around 620-700 watts?

And even though I do have a hard drive I can use, would it be worth cutting down on other areas of the budget in order to get an SSD? I hear it really perks up a system but is it worth cutting down to say a 7950 or 7870? I don't know.
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Anonymous
July 11, 2012 11:18:36 PM

turbotortoise said:

As far as power is concerned, I would like a little head room to overclock, probably not the video card but I would like to play around with the i5. (hence the cooler) I'm not aware of the power draw numbers on the HD 7 Series, specifically. Power wise, should I be aiming for around 620-700 watts?

no a quality 500-550 watt is plenty:

300 watts of power consumption is 60% of 500 watts and will allow plenty of overclocking room for both cpu and gpu. to stay within that magical 40%-80% load.
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July 12, 2012 7:48:45 AM

Anonymous said:
no a quality 500-550 watt is plenty:
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph5767/45671.png
300 watts of power consumption is 60% of 500 watts and will allow plenty of overclocking room for both cpu and gpu. to stay within that magical 40%-80% load.



Oh cool! That's good to know, thank you. 40%-80% under load. Got it.
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July 12, 2012 7:53:42 AM

do you plan to do any heavy overclocking? if so, don't go for the coolermaster evo. Get something beefier like the NH-D14; at something like 1.2~ volts and 4.2ghz it barely keeps my 3570k under 80C with prime 95 small FFT test full load; i can't imagine what the temps would be with the EVO, which is much smaller than the NH-D14.
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July 12, 2012 8:43:04 AM

paradoxeternal said:
do you plan to do any heavy overclocking? if so, don't go for the coolermaster evo. Get something beefier like the NH-D14; at something like 1.2~ volts and 4.2ghz it barely keeps my 3570k under 80C with prime 95 small FFT test full load; i can't imagine what the temps would be with the EVO, which is much smaller than the NH-D14.


Haha, I'd like to get the Noctua just for the ominous presence it has in a case. Definitely says you mean business.

At any rate, no, I can't see myself doing anything heavy, maybe a couple ghz at most. I'll probably just be toying around with it, see if i can squeeze a couple minutes out of light family video encoding or some more fps in CPU heavy games. I mainly see overclocking as a way to add on a few months of lifespan and a fun project, see just how far my hardware could go.

Which, in that case, in order to get under budget with an SSD, I might be looking at finding some value in a cheaper motherboard or even a locked i5 and stock cooler, could save me some value. Or is an SSD really worth blowing the budget?

:S

For my purpose of building a box to last a good 6-7 years built to eat current games, I'm not really sure the route I should take. It's a tough balance, current budget vs. equity over time.
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July 12, 2012 1:55:35 PM

If you look at the minimum spec's of most games you will see that a lot still have a dual core cpu and a low to mid range video card and sometimes people don't realize that the computer they have will actually last quite a while. The thing is that technology is in constant motion of new releases and you can tend to think that you need the latest video card or cpu to play a game. It's just not true and all games have settings that you can adjust along with the monitor resolutions that you can also adjust so with the combination of the two you can continue to play most games for quite some time. Now that all would mean that you can take into consideration the purchase of a SSD and not have to sacrafice longevity because you Pc will be competitive for a long time and the SSD will add to that competitiveness by giving the Pc the added boost of overall performance. So I would try to squeeze a SSD into your build in some way and with sales and rebates it would only take about $90 for a 120gb SSD.
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July 12, 2012 1:59:47 PM

Why don't you post the build that you are considering and we'll see if there can be a SSD sqeezed in.
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July 12, 2012 5:37:06 PM

Sure thing, I think this would be my current ideal setup, with SSD.

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink [$34.98]
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64385

Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 [$169.99]
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=70263&promoid=1360

Mushkin Chronos 120GB SSD [$100.74]
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62873&promoid=1015

Intel Core i5 3570K [$238.99]
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=70541&promoid=1015

XFX Radeon HD 7970 Double D [$449.99]
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=67172&promoid=1015

AMD Performance Edition 8GB [$54.99]
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=67361&promoid=1360

OCZ ZT Series 550W ATX12V Power Supply [$74.99]
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64380&promoid=1015

Coolermaster CM 690 II Basic ATX [$84.99]
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=49224

Ringing in for a pre-taxes and shipping total of $1209.66

So, I think the main areas where we might be able to find some savings would be: a cheaper motherboard, possibly power supply, although I think it's going to be pretty tough to beat $70ish, we can definitely find a cheaper case and perhaps some RAM as well.

And again, $1140 max, shipped before rebate is really, really the most I can spend, the closer to $1000 the better really, that extra $100 is sort of pushing it already.

Again, thank you everyone for your help, this is a really big, important thing for me, like planning the next 7 years of my future haha, it really is appreciated. :D 
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July 12, 2012 7:57:12 PM

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66851&vpn=TR%2D600&manufa...
Thermaltake TR2 600W Cable Management ATX12V V2.3 24PIN Power Supply With 120MM Fan $53.86.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69230&vpn=Z77A-G43&manufa...
MSI Z77A-G43 ATX LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 2PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 3PCI SATA3 DVI HDMI VGA DX11 USB3.0 Motherboard
$109.99

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=67172&vpn=FX797ATDFC&manu...
XFX Radeon HD 7970 Double D 925MHZ 3GB 5.5GHZ DDR5 2XMINI-DP HDMI DVI PCI-E Video Card
$419.99

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&vpn=RC%2D912%2DKKN1...
Coolermaster Haf 912 Black Mid Tower ATX Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB Sound
$59.98

So adding these parts and the parts that were not ghanged the total comes to $1073.52 and some of the items that were changed have a weekly special so they would have to be purchased in that time frame to get that price.
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July 13, 2012 1:00:34 AM

Ahhh, so close. Grand total before rebate comes out to, $1,192.79, without that SSD would be $1,092.77

The $85 hit for shipping and taxes is a realll bummer.

I can always add the drive a few months down the line, but I really think that's a good as we're going to get value wise.

Thank you for your help.
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