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July 11, 2012 5:18:30 PM

Hey, I'm fairly new to building pc's and got about 3450$ to spend. I want the greatest and most powerfull components but I'm not 100% shure how good this build is. I want this to be an AMD pc so please don't recomend i5's or i7's because I'm probably not going to buy them anyway :p 

Here is the parts:

ASUS Crosshair V Formula

AMD FX-8150 8-Core 3.6GHz w/watercooler

PCI Express:
XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB GDDR5

Corsair Dominator DDR 1600MHz 16GB

XFX PRoSeries Core Edition 850W PSU

SSD Hard Drive:
OCZ SSD Agility 4 Series 2.5" 128GB

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM

CD Rom:
ASUS BW-12B1ST, Blu-Ray Wrigter

ASUS PCE-N53 11n N600 PCI-E Adapter

If there is anything that should be replased it would make me very happy if you could coment it and recomend another component :) 

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July 11, 2012 5:20:25 PM

PSU is overkill for even two 7970s. Get a 750W PSU. Also, the GTX 670 is better value.
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July 11, 2012 6:28:06 PM

Here's my suggestion. I really don't recommend spending any more - put the rest on a savings account and update in two years or so. You'll get more bang for your buck that way.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8150 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek GAIA SD1283 56.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($109.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($314.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($314.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($159.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.65 @ Amazon)
Total: $1607.50
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

Crossfire 7950s, 240 GB SSD +1.5 TB HDD, FX8150 for overclocking fun.
July 11, 2012 6:46:23 PM

thanks that was realy awesome of you :D 
do you know anything abowt the shipping because I have to get the parts to Norway.
July 11, 2012 6:53:37 PM

Well that's a tough one. You can't ship them from USA you'll get hammered by customs. I suggest you buy locally.
July 11, 2012 7:04:14 PM

pcpartpicker doesn't have a norway option, but does have germany and france, if thats cheaper to ship from
July 11, 2012 7:07:47 PM

yeah but i can't find all of the same parts, like the cpu cooler or the 1.5 tb seagate -.-'
the closes i could get ended up with a pricetag of ca.2550$ with transport
July 11, 2012 7:13:19 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
pcpartpicker doesn't have a norway option, but does have germany and france, if thats cheaper to ship from

don't think so :( 
a b À AMD
July 11, 2012 7:27:01 PM

I have two suggestions up for consideration.
1. Piledriver is supposed to offer significant improvement over Bulldozer. While the Bulldozer fiasco itself has taught me to not hold my breath, this one is more likely to be true. IF you can temporarily deal with lower performance, consider getting the weakest CPU you can stomach at the moment, perhaps an Athlon II X3 or Phenom II X2 (which may unlock to an X3 or X4). There are two advantages to this. The first is that it gives you a CPU that WILL work in your board in case a BIOS update is needed for Bulldozer or Piledriver. Second, you can spend your "good" CPU money on a better CPU when they're out later this summer/early fall.
2. Since the money is available, buy a couple of extra drives and create a RAID-1 for your data. While it doesn't eliminate the need for backups, it can lessen the impact of a drive failure.
July 11, 2012 7:33:27 PM

Just wondering, will it fitt? the motherbord i want got AM3+ socket while say the Athlon II 651 got FM1 Socket :s
July 11, 2012 7:33:51 PM

+1 jtt283 : i would hit a Phenom II X3/X4 and settle for that till Piledriver on an AM3+ but though $$ is no object, i too echo azeem40's thoughts : single GTX 670 is bang for buck but if multi GPU i would say ya HD7950CF is the right path along with Quad Sandy/Ivy
a b À AMD
July 11, 2012 7:46:38 PM

Don't get a FM1 Athlon II, but an AM3 one like the 455 or 640.
July 11, 2012 7:50:31 PM

Should i pick the fx-4170 (180$) or the 6200 (215$) then?
a b À AMD
July 11, 2012 9:53:56 PM

Neither! Get something cheap, then get a high-end Piledriver in a couple months. Or, if it does meet your needs, get a FX-8150 now, but be prepared to be a little irritated thinking you should have waited when Piledriver finally gets benched.
July 11, 2012 10:40:38 PM

sow what would you say is my absolute best pick right now? most bang for the buck before the pildedrivers comes out?

P.S: tha AMD A4-3400 goes for like 80 $, should i just pick that one for the time being?
July 11, 2012 11:33:57 PM

Athlon II X3 455
July 12, 2012 12:14:51 AM

the only problem for me getting the 455 is that it's not sold on the site that I'm getting the rest of the pc from, ihey only got 8 "real" budget cpu's from AMD;

AMD A-Series A4-3300 - 73$
AMD A-Series A4-3400 - 81$
AMD A-Series A6-3500 - 96$
AMD A-Series A6-3650 - 127$
AMD A-Series A6-3670K - 135$
AMD A-Series A8-3850 - 144$
AMD Athlon II X4 641 - 113$
AMD Athlon II X4 651 - 127$

I just need the best of these cpu's, just to make it a bit easier to get al the components at the same time
July 12, 2012 12:44:44 AM

all of those are socket FM1
You need Socket AM3 (Athlon II, Phenom II) or AM3+ (Bulldozer)
whats your website?
July 12, 2012 12:49:51 AM

it's kalled , but it is norwegian. they got the fx-4100 also, but it cost over 150$ -.-
a b À AMD
July 12, 2012 12:58:53 AM

I like the idea of a place holder cpu for now

the FX 4100 is $110 , games as well as a phenom 965 and is highly overclockable

Make sure the motherboard has the 990FX chipset , not just the 990x
July 12, 2012 1:00:45 AM

ok, thanks for the help :) 
July 12, 2012 1:11:58 AM

Ya if u had to go with an AM3+ chip OC the hell outta a FX 4k chip :p 
July 12, 2012 1:17:22 AM

Maybe, I'm to too mutch into that but im pretty shure im going to do it :) 
July 12, 2012 6:20:30 AM

I don't think that's good advice. If you're gonna buy now, get the best you can that'll last you a while and just skip Piledriver and go with whatever comes later (when you upgrade). Or wait until PD is out and buy then.
July 12, 2012 1:22:35 PM

the cheapest AM3 CPU is the Sempron 145 for 61.5$, does it hold for the tile meing or is it a waste of time?
July 12, 2012 1:34:19 PM

that sempron is basically an Athlon II single core...should handle *basic* tasks.

I'd consider the Athlon II X2 for just a bit more
July 12, 2012 1:42:43 PM

The thing is just that the Athlon X3 450 onlt cost 8$ more on Pcexpress than the fx-4100 on Komplett, and the Athlon X3 460 cost 8.5$ more, so it it realy any reason for getting thouse? the X2 260 cost 22 bucks less than the fx again, so im comfused :s
July 12, 2012 2:37:46 PM

at those prices, it's probly not worth getting the X2/X3 at all, and the single core is going to struggle, so you might as well go with a 4100...or wait for piledriver (supposedly due in August). here in the States, those older chips are noticably cheaper than a 4100 -- a 4100 is about $110, while an X3 455 is $79 and an X2 250 is $50
July 12, 2012 2:53:39 PM

the prices is mostly due to the taxes we got here, and that realy suck -.-''
July 12, 2012 6:33:13 PM

FinneousPJ said:
I don't think that's good advice. If you're gonna buy now, get the best you can that'll last you a while and just skip Piledriver and go with whatever comes later (when you upgrade). Or wait until PD is out and buy then.

That is acualy a realy good idea, that i get the FX-8150 fom wna wait for the series after piledriver to upgrade it.
Thanks man! :) 
July 13, 2012 3:31:29 PM

Another thing, I found a AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ in one of my older pc's, should i just use that one for now?
July 13, 2012 10:55:33 PM

might not work. if its AM2, I might work, but not socket 939 or 754
July 13, 2012 11:28:23 PM

With an AM3/AM3+ mobo - nope The integrated memory controller (IMC) on an AM2 chip only runs with DDR2 memory, hence making it incompatible with AM3/AM3+ mobos
July 14, 2012 12:07:55 PM

ok, guess im just gonna buy a 4170 then :) 
August 30, 2012 2:53:58 PM

AfterLifer said:
ok, guess im just gonna buy a 4170 then :) 

Woah! Hold on there.. why would you go with the 4170? Yes, the FX series sucks and you may want the highest clock speed but check this out. I found a way to overclock the FX-8150 and get some serious performance out of the cheap and if you are going to stick with an AMD system you want the best according to your original post. The 4170 is great and can also take advantage of my overclocking method but will only be a dual core CPU.

Buy the FX-8150 and disable four of the cores, one at each module, and you will see a 15% single threaded speed increase just by doing that. Then you will have a higher overclock headroom to reach 4.5GHz or more with four cores... I know this may sound a bit confusing but I have a post here.. give it a read and let me know what you think. Definitely worth it if you want the best AMD system.

I would also recommend going with a Corsair GS 180GB SSD or higher. One of the best solid-state drives that I have ever used until the Corsair Neutron GTX has been released.. I have yet to try that with its 80K IOPS READ.. AND WRITES! :o