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July 11, 2012 7:17:25 PM

PLEASE NOTE: This first post is a little outdated, however I have updated the list in this post to match my latest build.



Hi there.

I won't waffle. I'm trying to decide whether to build a computer from scratch or just buy an x51 (Alienware™) miniature gaming desktop. If I were to go with the x51 I would buy the mid-range version ( http://www.dell.com/uk/p/alienware-x51/pd?oc=d00and23&m... ).

However, a truck-load of people are saying "oh no, don't get alienware. you can make a 2x better machine for half the price."

The following are the components I have found and liked so far.


PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/257232

CPU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251597

GPU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/253958

MOBO: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/351598

RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264750

HDD: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/272944

Optical Drive: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026

Operating System: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/259863

Case: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854

Heatsink & Fan: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176157

Total: £717 ($1,112) with the alternative (x51) coming in at about £839 ($1,303). Prices include shipping & delivery.


I need to know if there's anything in the list that won't fit, will blow up, break other components, might come alive and kill me while I sleep, you know. Is the case big enough? All the questions a newbie might ask, I need answering.

Obviously the specs for the custom-built PC are in the links but below are the specifications for the x51 I would buy.



Which CPU is better? Which GPU is better?

I'm not a heavy gamer but it would be nice to play games like BF3 (obviously) on above average graphics.


Any advice/help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,

Ryan.
July 11, 2012 7:35:07 PM

Alienware sucks, the 2500k is far better than the 3450.
Alienware sucks, the GPU you picked should be far better.

I would recommend a z77 board, I prefer Asrock.
You will need a heatsink/fank, I prefer/recommend the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ or 212 evo.
If you have the money for it I would recommend a ssd or two in a raid 0 for your OS/Games/Installs.
That ram you have there is horrid...I would go with some GSkill 1600mhz

I have never used that site before (USA), but look for those combo deals. I saw one with the 2500k + 1600 ram, another for the 2500k + that graphics card. Could save you a few more bucks going that route.

July 11, 2012 7:37:48 PM

The CPU and GPU from the home built you posted are better than the alienware.

You could also grab a gtx560ti which is better than the 560 OC and still come in well under the budget of the alienware.
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July 11, 2012 7:54:03 PM

They're both good but the ASUS is better. The aftermarket heatsink for the CPU is if you want to overclock your CPU. That's what the i5-2500K is made to do, overclock. If you're not going to overclock then get something without a K in the name, it will also cost less. Also 850w is way way overkill. You need 550w tops for that system. Grab the XFX 550w if they have it.
July 11, 2012 7:58:17 PM

Sounds good.

As it turns out I can't edit the main post. I'll post an updated list in a minute or so.
July 11, 2012 8:00:18 PM

DarkOutlaw said:
Alienware sucks, the 2500k is far better than the 3450.
Alienware sucks, the GPU you picked should be far better.

I would recommend a z77 board, I prefer Asrock.
You will need a heatsink/fank, I prefer/recommend the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ or 212 evo.
If you have the money for it I would recommend a ssd or two in a raid 0 for your OS/Games/Installs.
That ram you have there is horrid...I would go with some GSkill 1600mhz

I have never used that site before (USA), but look for those combo deals. I saw one with the 2500k + 1600 ram, another for the 2500k + that graphics card. Could save you a few more bucks going that route.


I definitely agree that Alienware sucks.

However 850W is major overkill for even 2 x 560TI, stick with a 750W, that will be plenty.
July 11, 2012 8:11:35 PM

Okay, disregard my first list, can't seem to edit the post.

How about this:

PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/269259

CPU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251597

GPU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/254405

MOBO: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/276562

RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264750

HDD: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/272944

Optical Drive: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026

Operating System: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/259863

Case: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172779

How's that for an introduction to the non-console gaming world? comes to a total of £662 ($1,026).

You sure the case is right? Does the PSU have all the cables I need?
July 11, 2012 8:15:33 PM

Rustiness said:
Okay, disregard my first list, can't seem to edit the post.

How about this:

PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/269259

CPU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251597

GPU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/253958

MOBO: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/276562

RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264750

HDD: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/272944

Optical Drive: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026

Operating System: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/259863

Case: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172779

How's that for an introduction to the non-console gaming world?

You sure the case is right? Does the PSU have all the cables I need?


That looks really good but I'd switch your motherboard - parallel ports haven't been used since 1996. This would be a better choice for not that much more money: http://www.ebuyer.com/351598-gigabyte-ga-z77-d3h-socket...

And then for case this would be a way better choice for only £10 more: http://www.ebuyer.com/143854-antec-300-three-hundred-ca...
July 11, 2012 8:24:10 PM

Great, thanks! Latest list:

PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/269259

CPU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251597

GPU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/254405

MOBO: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/351598

RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264750

HDD: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/272944

Optical Drive: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026

Operating System: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/259863

Case: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854

Total: £685 ($1,062).

Also, I really appreciate you guys giving me links to ebuyer. Living in the UK I'm kind of limited to the sites I can use.

Edit: Does the CPU in the list above come with a stock heatsink & fan? I can't seem to find anything about it on the page.
July 11, 2012 8:46:38 PM

Rustiness said:
Great, thanks! Latest list:

PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/269259

CPU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251597

GPU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/254405

MOBO: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/351598

RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264750

HDD: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/272944

Optical Drive: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026

Operating System: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/259863

Case: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854

Total: £685 ($1,062).

Also, I really appreciate you guys giving me links to ebuyer. Living in the UK I'm kind of limited to the sites I can use.

Edit: Does the CPU in the list above come with a stock heatsink & fan? I can't seem to find anything about it on the page.


Pay the extra £10 for the 2500K and I would say that looks like a winner to me.

The CPU comes with a stock fan but it's incredibly cheap. If you want to get something better the Hyper 212 Evo comes with everything you need and is a good low cost choice.
July 11, 2012 9:01:44 PM

I'll bear that in mind. Earlier in the thread it was mentioned that the K version is only really needed if you plan on overclocking. I almost certainly won't be doing that anytime in the near future. I also might invest in a better heatsink & fan at a later date but not right now.

I think I've got my final build. Thanks guys.

Feel free to still leave comments, I will certainly still read them.
July 11, 2012 9:43:38 PM

Rustiness said:
I'll bear that in mind. Earlier in the thread it was mentioned that the K version is only really needed if you plan on overclocking. I almost certainly won't be doing that anytime in the near future. I also might invest in a better heatsink & fan at a later date but not right now.

I think I've got my final build. Thanks guys.

Feel free to still leave comments, I will certainly still read them.


If you are not going to overclock then go with the i5-3450, that will make use of PCI Gen 3 should you decide to add a more powerful video card later on.
July 11, 2012 9:48:23 PM



Added a better PSU and Heatsink & Fan.

How does that all look now. All compatible with eachother? Is that HS&F going to fit in the case, the picture looks massive?

A little concerned with the PSU. Need someone to give me the O.K. so I can sleep tonight. :lol: 
July 11, 2012 9:52:17 PM

Rustiness said:


Added a better PSU and Heatsink & Fan.

How does that all look now. All compatible with eachother? Is that HS&F going to fit in the case, the picture looks massive?

A little concerned with the PSU. Need someone to give me the O.K. so I can sleep tonight. :lol: 


That fan isn't really much better than the stock fan but everything else looks good and that PSU is a good choice.
July 11, 2012 9:53:56 PM

no you only need to get the 2500k if you are overclocking which is not game changing, stick with the 3450 and get a hd 7850
July 11, 2012 10:04:10 PM

g-unit1111 said:
That fan isn't really much better than the stock fan but everything else looks good and that PSU is a good choice.


But it would fit, right?

billleroy said:
no you only need to get the 2500k if you are overclocking which is not game changing, stick with the 3450 and get a hd 7850


I think that would crank up the price just a little more than I would like.
July 11, 2012 10:41:17 PM

Rustiness said:
But it would fit, right?



I think that would crank up the price just a little more than I would like.


It would fit but there's far better coolers out there. You're better off using the stock fan - Arctic Coolers are pretty cheaply made for the most part.
July 11, 2012 11:03:53 PM

g-unit1111 said:
It would fit but there's far better coolers out there. You're better off using the stock fan - Arctic Coolers are pretty cheaply made for the most part.


Alright. Thanks for everything mate!
July 12, 2012 3:38:46 AM

You will need an aftermarket heatsink. Stock heatsink/fans are as good as that alienware computer we are bashing. You can get the cooler master hyper 212+ for about $20 usd, i dunno what that equates to in euros, but it should be cheap reguardless. 99% of people here will tell you to get something, and 99% will agree the hyper 212 is the best bang for your buck.
July 12, 2012 9:17:13 AM

So are we saying that my build is better than the x51 mentioned above (and below)?



Vs

Quote:
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500 3.3GHz 6MB Cache

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 BIT

Graphics Card: Gigabyte GTX 560Ti OC 1GB GDDR5

Memory: G.Skill 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RipjawsX + 4GB (two sticks I bought a few months ago) = 12GB

Hard Drive: Seagate 500GB Barracuda SATA-III 7200RPM 16MB Cache
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