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July 12, 2012 2:01:29 AM

I currently have the following setup that I made in 2010 while in highschool, so it's not that great of a machine:

CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz
Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB
Motherboard: BIOSTAR A785G3
SSD: 64GB SATA II 3.0Gb/s 2.5" G2 Series Solid State Drive (Got it for $30 from a friend)
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS
GPU: XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770
PSU: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro M600
Case: COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP


I want to basically replace everything but the case and drives.
I need some help picking out some parts which is why I came here! :D 
I was thinking about going with with the following:
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770S
Ram: CORSAIR XMS3 8GB
Motherboard: ????
GPU: ???
I also want to water cool everything(and by everything I only mean the CPU and GPU). Any help guys? :) 
July 12, 2012 2:20:44 AM

Well for your motherboard i suggest using a Z77 chipset as they will come with all the features you need.

something like this would be good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for your GPU i would advice the GTX 670 if you can afford it if not the HD 7870 is a great card and a huge step up in performance.

PCI express 3.0 has excellent bandwidth.


water cooling i know nothing about, sorry i can't be any help there.
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July 12, 2012 1:18:14 PM

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I was thinking about going with with the following:
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770S
Ram: CORSAIR XMS3 8GB
Motherboard: ????
GPU: ???
I also want to water cool everything(and by everything I only mean the CPU and GPU). Any help guys? :) 


What sort of budget are you looking at for this upgrade? What is the primary use for this computer? I'm assuming you'll be running @ 1920x1080 resolution as well.

Depending on your budget I would go with a middle range i5-3XXX or even an i5-2500K. The i7-3770S is not a great choice for two reasons: it's designed to be a lower power CPU (the S means it is downclocked), and the i7 is not the ideal chip for a gaming build price-wise. You're paying extra for a few features that do not accelerate games at all.
Your actual choice will dependent on budget, since you need to balance the GPU and CPU out.

There are numerous motherboards out there. I would look at a Z77-based board, and look in the $100-150 price range. Keep in mind that just because you spend $150, that doesn't mean you're getting anything more or better than a $100 board. ASRock, Asus, and Gigabyte would be some of the better choices for a board.

Obviously a GTX 670 would be nice, but I have no idea what you can spend. Recommendations really revolve around that. PCIe 3.0 isn't a huge deal since nothing saturates its bandwidth yet, but it's standard on all the new cards.


My upgrade order would be the GPU first, followed by the CPU/mobo if you have to save up some $$$ in between. You'll get an instant benefit from the new GPU, and you won't have to mess with the PC at all (literally and install of the card and the drivers).

The OS will need to be tweaked to really fit W7 64bit on it (if you're not running it already); my 64GB is a little tight, though I have a few programs installed on it. 64bit is necessary for the system to recognize 4GB+ RAM.
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July 12, 2012 8:51:21 PM

My budget is around $600, maybe more. If I can't afford the watercooling items, that's fine because I can always watercool it later and just use the stock H&F's for now.

So lets take a look here:
The i7 CPU is $310 which I want because I want to edit videos and then encode them, but I also like to game. I currently do that with my Athlon II x3, but it takes forever and it annoys the heck out of me.
The Corsair sticks are $47 which were the cheapest decent ones that I could find. I don't really care much for higher clocked ram that much.
The motherboard I'm thinking about going somewhat cheap. $100-150 would be my budget for that, and I'm not really partial to any brands just as long as they work and are reliable. I just stumbled onto this motherboard that a coworker recommended that's pretty cheap and thinking about getting unless someone can recomend something better. It's the ASRock Z77 Extreme4
As far as the GPU goes, I want to be able to play most games on mid to high settings. Since a lot of the games now a days are console ports I don't think that I really need a pretty beefy GPU. I mostly just want to play Civilization V right now because my current computer laggs so bad in the huge worlds, but since the steam sale is coming up I might buy some more games as well. I currently use the Radeon HD 5770 and I would like to at least get a card that is a step up from that one.

I already installed Windows 7 64bit on my SSD, that's not a problem. I would personally never have bought a 64GB SSD, but it was so cheap so I decided to get it. I'm always nervous about running out of room haha.
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July 12, 2012 9:00:29 PM

I personally would just get an i7-2600K and OC the hell out of it. Ivy bridge is only about 15% faster than Sandy Bridge at the stock settings, and the i7-2700K is a 3.5GHz chip while the i7-3770S is at 3.1GHz. Sandy bridge will OC better than Ivy as well, so you can usually get 4.5GHz+ from a SB CPU, while IB struggles to get over 4.2GHz.

I wouldn't watercool until you have a bit more of the budget and do some reading over in the watercooling forum. Take a look at the sticky and do some in depth reading before trying to start looking at parts; you'll just get swamped with variety.

The RAM is fine, and you mobo selection is solid. I used an ASRock B75 board in my brother's ITX build and it's nice; looks good, has a bunch of good features and has a standard warranty.

I would look in the midrange GPUs. The 7850/7870 are popular choices that perform well, and the GTX 660Ti is rumored to come out the first week of August or even the week before that. I'm personally a fan of the Green Team since I've always had problems with AMD drivers.
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July 12, 2012 9:38:00 PM

boiler1990 said:
I personally would just get an i7-2600K and OC the hell out of it. Ivy bridge is only about 15% faster than Sandy Bridge at the stock settings, and the i7-2700K is a 3.5GHz chip while the i7-3770S is at 3.1GHz. Sandy bridge will OC better than Ivy as well, so you can usually get 4.5GHz+ from a SB CPU, while IB struggles to get over 4.2GHz.

I wouldn't watercool until you have a bit more of the budget and do some reading over in the watercooling forum. Take a look at the sticky and do some in depth reading before trying to start looking at parts; you'll just get swamped with variety.

The RAM is fine, and you mobo selection is solid. I used an ASRock B75 board in my brother's ITX build and it's nice; looks good, has a bunch of good features and has a standard warranty.

I would look in the midrange GPUs. The 7850/7870 are popular choices that perform well, and the GTX 660Ti is rumored to come out the first week of August or even the week before that. I'm personally a fan of the Green Team since I've always had problems with AMD drivers.


Well I'm not much of an overclocker, so I'm not going to try and get the i7 as high as I can, but I will do some light overclocking. I mostly want to do watercooling because it's quieter and I want to do something new. I don't want to do something like the Corsair H60 or similar because I want the challenge and something fun to do.

I was looking at the mid range gpus but noticed that the GTX 660Ti wasn't out yet. I guess that I will wait for that to come out and then I'll buy it. For now I think that I might get Motherboard and CPU and Ram and wait for the 660Ti to come out.
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July 12, 2012 10:08:27 PM

I just wouldn't get the i7-3770S. Any of the others are fine, but you're literally paying more for a downclock on the CPU. You can't OC on it either (at least not easily).

The i7-2600K is a solid OCer; should be able to get ~4.2 GHz without messing with voltages. Mine does 4.5 with a quick change of the multiplier. You will need an aftermarket cooler of some sort; the Hyper 212+ is cheap and is a great stand-in until you get the WCing up and running.
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July 12, 2012 11:44:17 PM

boiler1990 said:
I just wouldn't get the i7-3770S. Any of the others are fine, but you're literally paying more for a downclock on the CPU. You can't OC on it either (at least not easily).

The i7-2600K is a solid OCer; should be able to get ~4.2 GHz without messing with voltages. Mine does 4.5 with a quick change of the multiplier. You will need an aftermarket cooler of some sort; the Hyper 212+ is cheap and is a great stand-in until you get the WCing up and running.


I see your point....
So hows this look then?
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P67X-UD3-B3 or ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3)
Ram: CORSAIR XMS3 8GB
H&F: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO
GPU: 660Ti at a later date
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July 13, 2012 1:50:06 AM

I would go at least Z68 - the boards are roughly the same price, you get video transcoding benefits (since you will be doing some of that), and at least the onboard video.

There are many options. I personally like the look of the ASRock Extreme3 Gen3, but EVGA's stuff is nice too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 14, 2012 12:28:51 AM

boiler1990 said:
I would go at least Z68 - the boards are roughly the same price, you get video transcoding benefits (since you will be doing some of that), and at least the onboard video.

There are many options. I personally like the look of the ASRock Extreme3 Gen3, but EVGA's stuff is nice too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


The reason that I decided to go with a P67 instead of a Z68 is because I'm not really going to have a use for Quick Sync. Quick Sync only works on a limited number of programs, none of which I use.
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July 14, 2012 1:15:29 AM

the GeForce GTX 480 is on sale right now @newegg at around $80 off; maybe you want to try that?
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July 14, 2012 1:27:46 AM

Z68 boards cost the same as the P67 boards. No reason not to get it when you get better features.
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July 16, 2012 10:18:21 PM

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