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November 22, 2012 4:48:32 PM

Hey, im currently running:

fx-8120 @ 4.0ghz
990fxa-ud3
corsair veangence 8gb ram
corsair force gt 90gb ssd
gtx 560 gpu
bitfenix merc beta
hyper 212 evo


So my question is.
Should i replace the whole platform and go for the 3770k and get a weaker gpu (660) or get an fx-8320 or fx-8350, get a better case for better overclocking and airflow and get a stronger gpu (660ti)

I play cpu heavy games like rift and i also do a lot of livestreaming on twitch.

Whats your opinion and suggestion ?

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November 22, 2012 5:20:07 PM

I wouldn't step down to a GTX 660, The FX-8320 will be perfectly good for that GPU.

The 3770K is just overkill.
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November 22, 2012 5:22:21 PM

only spend on the gpu, go for a 7950 3GB or 670 gtx.
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November 22, 2012 6:33:21 PM

yea but in rift ive seen people with i7-s get like 40-50fps with ultra settings while i have to sit there with 30fps and medium settings :/ 
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November 22, 2012 6:48:21 PM

Well you have a poor GPU.
November 22, 2012 7:52:23 PM

rift is really cpu-heavy game. also is it worth gettin an 8320 over the 8120 ? how big of an upgrade it is ? should i get the 8350 instead ? i plan to OC my cpu to the max.

8320 - 160 euros
8350 - 220 euros

which one is more worth ?
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November 22, 2012 8:06:23 PM

8320 is a far better deal since you're planning to OC.
November 22, 2012 8:17:59 PM

Neither; get an i5 3570K.
November 22, 2012 8:18:12 PM

so,
8320, 7970/670 and a corsair 500r maybe ?

that would be good overflow with a good gpu and i already have a hyper 212 evo :) 
around this will cost about 600 euros which is right in my budget, what do you guys think ?
November 22, 2012 8:57:13 PM

for gaming, get a 6300 and OC it and put the remaining money on GPU (skip 660Ti, non ti is better for what it offers for price, if you can settle for a 670 it will be awesome)
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November 22, 2012 9:08:32 PM

Drop off the i7 series for gaming,the i5 are a better deal,Extra money saved used for an GTX670 boom done!
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November 22, 2012 11:33:42 PM

you have an sli capable motherboard, so just get another 560. one of the new fx chips will give good improvements in some games, minor improvements in others.
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November 22, 2012 11:52:48 PM

If you go intel you will be wasting an extra $100 on a motherboard for the new chip. If you go AMD, you will essentially have an extra $100 to spend on a GPU. I agree that the i5's are better for gaming, but not to the exent that they can make up a level or two difference in video cards.

FX-8350 + 7950 > i5-3570K + GTX660 + New Z77 MB




November 23, 2012 12:09:40 AM

Its not worth building a whole new rig for the marginal (if any) gaming performance gain you will get from the i5 over the FX-8
November 23, 2012 1:49:25 AM

guys, im not only gaming. im also livestreaming at the same time which is a hard hit on the cpu, consider that aswell plz.

btw, 8320 is 160 euros, while 3570k is 220 and 3770k is 310, now upgrading to intel means like an extra 320 euros to spend.

I cant go SLI either cause i have a 600W PSU which means i have to upgrade it.
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November 23, 2012 2:15:56 AM

8320 overclocked easy at those prices. With 8 cores, I think you can spare a couple for streaming, too, so you should be fine.

November 23, 2012 2:31:09 AM

what about 3570k (210) + z77 mobo (120) and a 7950 ?

that doesent leave me money for a better case so im stuck with the shitty airflow and not very good OC, but atleast i can sell my 560 and whole am3+ mobo + cpu.

What do you think about that ? Will a 3570k handle gaming+streaming at the same time better than an fx-8320 ?
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November 23, 2012 2:43:00 AM

But then by that logic you could get a 8320 and a 7970 and keep your case. It's not going to be a good value going Intel no matter how you cut it. It might result in marginally better CPU performance, but you'll be getting a worse graphics card or giving up something else to get it.



November 23, 2012 2:58:33 AM

so currently my options are:

8320
7970
500r case for better airflow and OC

or

3570k
z77 mobo
7950
November 23, 2012 10:23:05 AM

what do you think guys ? what is the better upgrade from an fx-8120, 990fxa-ud3 and gtx 560 asus directu2 top
November 23, 2012 11:40:17 AM

cheti said:
what do you think guys ? what is the better upgrade from an fx-8120, 990fxa-ud3 and gtx 560 asus directu2 top


I think the first one.
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November 23, 2012 12:27:19 PM

There's not much of a gain from an 8120 to an 8350. I'd just keep the 8120 and get a really good GPU, like a 7970/680 for the money saved.

If you absolutely need a faster CPU, go with a 3570k. There's no value in changing your CPU to yet another AMD CPU.
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November 23, 2012 12:42:18 PM

Get a 3570k and an HD7950/7970 and enjoy the eye candy.

The i5s and i7s are at par as far as gaming goes.
November 23, 2012 3:42:22 PM

the second one then :) 
November 23, 2012 5:28:27 PM

i still need more opinions guys.
would an fx-8320 really not make a big difference with a good case and 4.5ghz overclock ? atm whats limiting my OC is the airflow of ,my shitty case.

i will be playing extremely CPU heavy games while livestreaming which is also cpu heavy. will a 3570k handle it ?
November 23, 2012 5:55:54 PM

i5 3470 + H77M-D3H + 670, and no need to overclock. As for i5 and i7, if you can afford the 3770 (non K), by all means go for it. Sure its not required but you have that little bit of extra grunt. That crappy AMD CPU is heavily holding you back.
November 23, 2012 10:16:48 PM

NV88 said:
i5 3470 + H77M-D3H + 670, and no need to overclock. As for i5 and i7, if you can afford the 3770 (non K), by all means go for it. Sure its not required but you have that little bit of extra grunt. That crappy AMD CPU is heavily holding you back.



Best not get into the low brow gutter talk "Crapy AMD CPU's" its provocative and insulting to some people, also wholly inaccurate.
There is no need for it.

There is no doubt that Intel are the vastly larger, richer company with better tech but they also cost more, and are at times slower than the cheaper AMD's.
There is a real place for AMD CPU's and its far from the gutter. :) 
November 23, 2012 10:19:13 PM

abundantcores said:
Best not get into the low brow gutter talk "Crapy AMD CPU's" its provocative and insulting to some people, also wholly inaccurate.
There is no need for it.

There is no doubt that Intel are the vastly larger, richer company with better tech but they also cost more, and are at times slower than the cheaper AMD's.
There is a real place for AMD CPU's and its far from the gutter. :) 


There is no doubt that Intel is the vastly superior CPU here and that rubbish AMD Bulldozer hunk of silicon junk is holding the OP back. Is that clear enough?
November 23, 2012 10:23:58 PM

NV88 said:
There is no doubt that Intel is the vastly superior CPU here and that rubbish AMD Bulldozer hunk of silicon junk is holding the OP back. Is that clear enough?



Yup, you have made your intentions here pretty clear
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November 24, 2012 2:14:22 AM

Intel vs AMD is an endless discussion. Simply because people don't get that they are different in their approach to products.

There's the people who simply want the best no matter what and those that look for a good value and/or are on a budget or simply care for not spending all their money if it's not necessary.

The first type buys Intel and expects, because of their elitist attitude, that everyone else has to do the same. Backing it up with: "it's faster wtf else is important?!?!". While the others have to fight an "uphill battle" to explain while they still want to go with something different for reasons elitist jerks don't get; like money, a positive attitude towards a brand, ... you name it.

You can't bullshit away the fact that an FX 6300 + 970 mobo + 8GB 1866 RAM costs a few bucks more than just an i5 3570k.

Money doesn't grow on trees. Not for most people, anyway.

Saying Piledriver is a piece of junk is not facing reality. It's delusional. Benchmarks showed that it's on par with Intel for productivity, for less money. Yes it's slower in games, but again, slower these days means just a few fps less and still more than enough for most people to even notice the difference in game, especially if you can spent that money on a faster GPU and still get away with a cheaper system overall.

All the people asking about "AMD vs Intel" should simply ask them self which group they belong to or want to belong to and decide accordingly.
November 24, 2012 4:30:17 AM

If you were building from the ground up, I would say get a 3770K (assuming that what you are doing is heavily multi-threaded) with a 7970 or 680. But, you don't have to waste a decent motherboard. Sell your 8120 and 560 and get an 8350 and 7970. The Piledriver is slightly better than the BD, and the prices are more in line with their performance compared with the Intel lineup.
November 24, 2012 4:34:03 AM

take a 3770k and a 7850hd
November 24, 2012 9:36:10 AM

the fx-8350 is down from 230 euros to 190 euros in my shop.
should i go for that and 500r and a 670 then ? seems like a good deal.

altho 3770k seems SO appealing, but hten i cant upgrade my gpu that much :/  i have 600 euro budget and 3770k + mobo is already 430 euros
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November 24, 2012 1:32:29 PM

Just go with the 8320 IMO.
November 24, 2012 10:15:39 PM

but 8350 is only 30 euros more expensive, isnt it worth it ?

btw i cant OC my 8120 past 4.0ghz cause if i increase volts over 1.35v then my temps go just horrible. will that mean i can oc my 8320/8350 over 4.0 or 1.35v aswell ?

going with the amd again will give me better airflow and OC but is the performance loss worth it ? esp. when im playing a game that isnt well optimized for amd-s and only uses one core.
November 24, 2012 10:52:50 PM

Get a 3470 and an H77 board, both will smash past AMD easily.
November 24, 2012 11:25:03 PM

hafijur said:
I love it when people go on about amd being cheap. Why not buy a 3 year old intel system, gives similar performance per watt to what amd have out now.

You could run 2 3770k machines and take less power then an amd fx8350 slightly oc'd machine I believe.


A 3yr old Intel system is a waste of money as prices never really fall enough to justify it. Side effect of new sockets and CPU's every year.
November 24, 2012 11:59:38 PM

i think im just gonna go with the 3570k, z77 and a 660ti. get the max OC i can and thats it
November 25, 2012 12:14:01 AM

cheti said:
i think im just gonna go with the 3570k, z77 and a 660ti. get the max OC i can and thats it


Best idea. I have this board:

Gigabyte Z77-UD3H

Will do the job and its built very well.
January 8, 2013 5:28:25 PM

why not just keep your 8150 (or upgrade to another amd) and get an expensive gpu. I don't think you need to make a whole new build (in a sense, switching to intel) when you already have a pretty good mobo and processor for amd.
Just get like a 680 or 7970 or whatever with the money you would have spent switching to intel. I honestly don't think power consumption doesn't matter too much for most people, could be wrong though.
January 8, 2013 6:10:14 PM

got a 7950 and 3570k already
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