PLease let me know how this build will work

[xBUNx]

Hello I am trying my hardest to make a budget build around $600. These are the parts that I have selected so far, but I'm sure tweaking is needed. I am unsure what GPU to get, I want GW2, D3, Skyrim to run maxed out, and bf3, and other demanding games to run at medium-ultra ;P. please let me know if you have any tips

Rosewill CHALLENGER http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

corsair TX650 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58381&vpn=CMPSU-650TXV2&manufacture=Corsair

965 black + Asrock 970 DE3 ($130 microcenter bundle) http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/11af08e2#/11af08e2/28

8gb ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231468

500gb HDD http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7281716&CatId=2459


ASUS DRW-24B1ST http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=69650&vpn=DRW-24B1ST%2FBLK%2FB%2FAS%20%28Bulk%29&manufacture=ASUS

GPU: I need help with...

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[g-unit1111]

I really hesitate to recommend a 965 when it's outperformed in every category by even the lowest end Sandy Bridge CPU. Try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($164.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $631.89
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

A little over $600 but you don't compromise on anything.

 

[amkronos]

Hows this:

Intel i5 2310 + AsRock Z68 Mobo Combo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.989189

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7770 + Thermaltake Smart SP-430P 430W PSU Combo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.998022

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB"

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345

Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel Case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023


Total is $641 with the HDD and Optical drive. $15 Rebate for the GPU brings it down to $626 a little over budget but the i5 destroys the AMD 965. The Video card will play everything high/ultra.

 

[g-unit1111]

Hows this:

Intel i5 2310 + AsRock Z68 Mobo Combo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.989189

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7770 + Thermaltake Smart SP-430P 430W PSU Combo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.998022

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB"

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345

Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel Case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023


Total is $641 with the HDD and Optical drive. $15 Rebate for the GPU brings it down to $626 a little over budget but the i5 destroys the AMD 965. The Video card will play everything high/ultra.

Thermaltake PSUs are junk, and the Radeon 6870 far outperforms a 7770. Plus you'll need at minimum 500W for that PSU. If you're not overclocking you don't need a Z68 board.

 

[xBUNx]

Is the 6870 better than the 7770?

 

[xBUNx]

Thermaltake PSUs are junk, and the Radeon 6870 far outperforms a 7770. Plus you'll need at minimum 500W for that PSU. If you're not overclocking you don't need a Z68 board.

Oops didn't see that post xD

 

[g-unit1111]

Is the 6870 better than the 7770?

Short answer: yes. Here's a couple benchmarks to look at:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU12/372

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=540

In the first one the 6870 performs a whopping 10.1 FPS better than the 7770 does.

 

[xBUNx]

Short answer: yes. Here's a couple benchmarks to look at:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU12/372

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=540

In the first one the 6870 performs a whopping 10.1 FPS better than the 7770 does.

Ah I see, why does it take such a big hit with skyrim?!

 

[g-unit1111]

Ah I see, why does it take such a big hit with skyrim?!

I don't have an answer for that - the problem with those benchmarks is that they're useful but they leave out a lot of parameters that they test with - driver versions, CPU and motherboard, things like that. Every system is different and every system will give you different results.

 

[Guest]

case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352009

motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303

cpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

cpu heat sink

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

dvd burner

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Hard drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

for the rest i would go with g-unit1111 list. the fractal case is a cheaper but higher quality case than a rosewill but its right on par with the antec case. the motherboard is very full featured but costs less to make you able to afford an i5 processor. i also included a cpu heat sink, after a rebate it is only $20 but its worth it to keep your cpu nice and cool

 

[Guest]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

get the highest on the list you can for your dollar

 

[nekulturny]

I don't have an answer for that - the problem with those benchmarks is that they're useful but they leave out a lot of parameters that they test with - driver versions, CPU and motherboard, things like that. Every system is different and every system will give you different results.

1. Skyrim likes quad core CPUs, specifically it favors Intel, but in a twist of irony, it seems Skyrim performs better on AMD graphics cards than Nvidia.

2. Skyrim takes a hit in that bench because of the resolution. 1920x1200 is a lot to ask of a 6870.

 

[g-unit1111]

case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352009

motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303

cpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

cpu heat sink

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

dvd burner

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Hard drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

for the rest i would go with g-unit1111 list. the fractal case is a cheaper but higher quality case than a rosewill but its right on par with the antec case. the motherboard is very full featured but costs less to make you able to afford an i5 processor. i also included a cpu heat sink, after a rebate it is only $20 but its worth it to keep your cpu nice and cool

Why would you go mATX? You'd have an incredibly hard time fitting the bigger video cards in those types of cases.

1. Skyrim likes quad core CPUs, specifically it favors Intel, but in a twist of irony, it seems Skyrim performs better on AMD graphics cards than Nvidia.

Really? I didn't think software would favor one GPU or CPU over the other. Interesting.

 

[nekulturny]

Really? I didn't think software would favor one GPU or CPU over the other. Interesting.

Well, Battlefield 3 likes Nvidia cards. Something in the coding I'm sure. The video cards have different architectures, and to some degree different features. Game maker optimizes for one or the other. Probably a backhand corporate deal involved in there somewhere, who knows?

As far as Skyrim and the CPUs, I think its just that its really CPU intensive, not that it specifically favors the Intel quad, it just really wants the stronger individual core performance that Intel has. Really, its more CPU intensive than it should be, I think they put a patch out to reduce it, it helped some, but not much.

 

[xBUNx]

Most important question to ask.... Will it play Guild Wars 2? xD

 

[nekulturny]

Pretty much any modern CPU can handle Guild Wars effortlessly. Be it a Phenom II, an i3 or an i5. A 6870 wouldn't even break a sweat.

 

[Guest]

Why would you go mATX? You'd have an incredibly hard time fitting the bigger video cards in those types of cases.

1. Skyrim likes quad core CPUs, specifically it favors Intel, but in a twist of irony, it seems Skyrim performs better on AMD graphics cards than Nvidia.

Really? I didn't think software would favor one GPU or CPU over the other. Interesting.

there are a LOT of matx cases that can handle full size video cards, and there are many itx cases that can too.

 

[nekulturny]

Yea, but with more powerful cards in smaller cases its not physical space you have to worry about, airflow becomes a concern with more powerful, hotter running cards.

 

[Guest]

I always get duel fan cards with excellent cooling, its not much of a problem if you know what you are doing. bitfenixs new itx case has excellent cooling