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May 20, 2012 12:42:13 PM

Hello Guys,

I am about to sell my Asus GTX 560 Ti DCII. I have got an offer for a Sapphire HD 6950 2GB Dirt 3 edition for $30 more. Should I buy that. I game at 1080p but I know that Battlefield 3 and Witcher 2 require more than 1GB VRAM. So I want to know will it be a good deal considering that the HD 6950 for $30 more is a 2GB variant.

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May 20, 2012 1:05:18 PM

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upgrade that motherboard first in my opinion...



What's wrong with the motherboard?
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a c 143 U Graphics card
May 20, 2012 1:09:19 PM

Actually HD 6950 2GB is slightly slower than HD 6950 1GB, when the additional VRAM doesn't add a value, it makes the performance a little slower.

Besides, the GTX 560ti is the same performance as the HD 6950 you won't feel a difference.
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May 20, 2012 1:36:00 PM

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+1


+1 (again.)



This is the sole reason why I did not upgrade my Motherboard. I will definitely wait for the Piledriver. Do u have any idea as to when the COU would be released?
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May 20, 2012 1:46:34 PM

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and that's understandable...
as for PD, I couldn't tell you.



One last question. Do you think upcoming games will start utilizing more than 1GB VRAM as Battlefiled and GTX 4 are already using a lot of VRAM.
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May 20, 2012 2:22:56 PM

irfan88 said:
One last question. Do you think upcoming games will start utilizing more than 1GB VRAM as Battlefiled and GTX 4 are already using a lot of VRAM.

Of course but you'll need a more powerful GPU to take advantage of the advertised VRAM such as the newer GTX 6000 series or HD 79xx.
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May 20, 2012 2:25:52 PM

ilysaml said:
Of course but you'll need a more powerful GPU to take advantage of the advertised VRAM such as the newer GTX 6000 series or HD 79xx.



How about an HD 6970. Will it be able to take advantage of the 2GB VRAM. I am not worried about the power consumption as I have a Corsair TX 750 V PSU.
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May 20, 2012 2:45:01 PM

irfan88 said:
Hello Guys,

I am about to sell my Asus GTX 560 Ti DCII. I have got an offer for a Sapphire HD 6950 2GB Dirt 3 edition for $30 more. Should I buy that. I game at 1080p but I know that Battlefield 3 and Witcher 2 require more than 1GB VRAM. So I want to know will it be a good deal considering that the HD 6950 for $30 more is a 2GB variant.


Pay more to go slower ????? Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 220.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.46 - $ 0.59
$ 240.00 MSI 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 200.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.44 - $ 0.51
$ 200.00 Asus 560 Ti DCII TOP - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.40 - $ 0.46

Best bet would be to grab a 2nd card o increase performance by about 75%. Son No. 2 has two of the Asus cards and plays single player BF3 on ultra on a 120 Mhz monitor.
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May 20, 2012 2:53:23 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Pay more to go slower ????? Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 220.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.46 - $ 0.59
$ 240.00 MSI 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 200.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.44 - $ 0.51
$ 200.00 Asus 560 Ti DCII TOP - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.40 - $ 0.46

Best bet would be to grab a 2nd card o increase performance by about 75%. Son No. 2 has two of the Asus cards and plays single player BF3 on ultra on a 120 Mhz monitor.



How foolish of me. I already committed a guy that I will sell him my GTX 560 Ti for $180. :cry:  Now what will I do? which card? I can't afford a 670 or a 7950. and I can't even look back and tell him 'no' because I am not that kind of a person. What will I do now. Holy S___ :sweat:  :( 
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May 20, 2012 2:56:39 PM

irfan88 said:
How about an HD 6970. Will it be able to take advantage of the 2GB VRAM. I am not worried about the power consumption as I have a Corsair TX 750 V PSU.

Nope, as you can see, nVidia are always making a wise products, their top end cards are equipped with 2 GB of VRAM because the GPU itself can benefit from it, From the review of palit GTX 680 4 GB;
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The 4GB -- Realistically there was not one game that we tested that could benefit from the two extra GB's of graphics memory. Even at 2560x1600 (which is a massive 4 Mpixels resolution) there was just no measurable difference.

Now the setup could benefit from triple monitor setups at 5760x1080 (which is a 6 Mpixels resolution), but even there I doubt if 4 GB is really something you'd need to spend money on.
HD 7900 can't take advantage of the 3GB advertised VRAM, so as you can see in most benches in different games that GTX 670/680 beats HD 7970 at the same resolution though AMD has more VRAM.
The top end cards are just started to take advantage of the 2GB VRAM, it will take a while to produce more powerful GPUs to take advantage of more than this.
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May 20, 2012 3:01:34 PM

what about i5 3570k??
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May 20, 2012 3:02:27 PM

ilysaml said:
Nope, as you can see, nVidia are always making a wise products, their top end cards are equipped with 2 GB of VRAM because the GPU itself can benefit from it, From the review of palit GTX 680 4 GB;
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The 4GB -- Realistically there was not one game that we tested that could benefit from the two extra GB's of graphics memory. Even at 2560x1600 (which is a massive 4 Mpixels resolution) there was just no measurable difference.

Now the setup could benefit from triple monitor setups at 5760x1080 (which is a 6 Mpixels resolution), but even there I doubt if 4 GB is really something you'd need to spend money on.
HD 7900 can't take advantage of the 3GB advertised VRAM, so as you can see in most benches in different games that GTX 670/680 beats HD 7970 at the same resolution though AMD has more VRAM.
The top end cards are just started to take advantage of the 2GB VRAM, it will take a while to produce more powerful GPUs to take advantage of more than this.



Now help me out with this please. Should I buy a HD 7870 now or Should I buy a low end card for $50 for now and then upgrade to a 660 when its released?

You people are the masters and now you please help me out with my dilemma

7870 now or a 660 later.
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a c 143 U Graphics card
May 20, 2012 3:21:43 PM

Personally, I wouldn't even upgrade right now. If you can hold the GTX 560ti hold it it's a good performer can almost max out every game @ 1080P.

If you're going to get a HD 7850/7870 or even wait for the GTX 660...this won't be a huge upgrade you'll just cost yourself more.
Hold your GPu till you upgrade to a high end one from the current GTX 600 series or even the upcoming GTX 700 series.
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May 21, 2012 6:41:38 PM

xtreme5 said:
get it.


Will it be an upgrade compared to my previous GTX 560 Ti 1GB. and one more thing, the GTX 580 has only 1.5 GB VRAM. So should I still go with it. I only game at 1080p and want to max out Battlefield 3. Should I get the 580 or a 7870 (I have seen 7870 benchmarks but it is not fast as a stock 580. this model is overclocked).

Suggestions please?
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May 21, 2012 6:50:32 PM

7870 has 2gb VRAM where as 580 has 1.5gb even the winner is 580.
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May 21, 2012 7:08:58 PM

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what are you waiting for.?
and 'xtreme5' is right about the performance.
I have an OC'd GTX 570 @ GTX 580 reference performance and it's a beast.
I dropped down from SLi GTX 460's to the OC'd GTX 570 and I barely notice any difference.
at the same time I have less heat and power consumption.



Hey thanks. I was so scared when you told me yesterday that I did a wrong thing selling the GTX 560 Ti. But now I am happy. I might be tight on funds now if I buy that but I will manage. After all who gets a chance like this. I mean the guy has purchased the 580 and used it for 4 to 5 months and still has a 3 year warranty.

But what I am really scared of is the GTX 580 is overclocked to 835 Mhz but it has a reference cooler. Wont the card run hot. I have a corsair 400r case with 8 fans installed in it but I am still worried. I dunno why.
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May 21, 2012 7:11:20 PM

irfan88 said:
How about a Palit Sonic GTX 580 (overclocked version). A customer is selling me that card with three years of warranty still left on the card. This is the one:

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/27386-palit-first-g...

again i'm telling you get it gtx 580 is still the king. that's the chance for you don't miss it.
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May 21, 2012 7:21:40 PM

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that's actually a good clock @ 835MHz and odds are it exhaust out the back and the fan a little better than OEM reference.
I wouldn't worry about it but if and when you want to have fun with it we can always mod the reference style cooler later on.
only if you feel comfy of course.
heck thinking about it I might run it at it's stock clock @ 835MHz..



Ok. I go by your words buddy. One last question. Currently 835Mhz GTX 580 is equal to which card on the market. (7950 or a 7970).
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May 21, 2012 7:24:48 PM

equal with 7950, and closer with 7970.
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May 21, 2012 7:29:14 PM

xtreme5 said:
equal with 7950, and closer with 7970.



One last question mate. I am not going to SLI the 580. I will straight away jump to a Maxwell card when it releases. Do you think that the GTX 580 OC will be able to handle games at high to highest settings uptill 2014 (that is 2 years from now).
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May 21, 2012 7:31:25 PM

irfan88 said:
One last question mate. I am not going to SLI the 580. I will straight away jump to a Maxwell card when it releases. Do you think that the GTX 580 OC will be able to handle games at high to highest settings uptill 2014 (that is 2 years from now).

of course, it will crush all the new games in maxed out setting, more than 2 years.
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May 21, 2012 7:34:11 PM

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May 21, 2012 8:14:59 PM

xtreme5 said:
of course, it will crush all the new games in maxed out setting, more than 2 years.



Sorry to bother you guys, but one more issue:

I just read this article:

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=694378&mpage=1

You can even find many on google. Palit actually recalled the 580 Sonic's because they had stability issues with the overclock. I want to know is that really true because I dont see the Palit sonic 580 listed on their website either. So will the 3 year warranty valid?
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May 21, 2012 8:16:50 PM

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yes.



Should I still opt for that 580 considering that they were recalled by Palit?
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May 21, 2012 8:25:17 PM

a friend of mine using palit gtx 580 in sli with 2500k never had any issue even he is overlcocking 3 components the cpu and the gpu's.
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May 21, 2012 9:56:14 PM

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