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July 13, 2012 4:09:38 PM

I have a build I threw together based on reviews and trying to not go overboard on the price. I want the best build possible that can run games like World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XIV, Guild Wars 2, Skyrim, Starcraft II, Diablo III, etc. on the highest possible settings without lagging all over the place. I don't care if it is Intel or AMD either one is fine so long as it does the job. I will not overclock anything at all. Here is what I have, feel free to change things around but can you explain why or perhaps reduce the price? The price I have is possible to go to, but it hurts. :D 

budget: try to stay at or under the current cost cannot go over (or I shouldnt need to right?)
complete build including monitor and all that stuff.

purpose: gaming (wow, ffxiv, gw2, skyrim, sc2, d3, etc), and watching anime (1080p videos)
purchase date: this week if possible
place of purchase: prefer either newegg and or amazon, bestbuy is okay as well but they usually not cheap.

case: (keeping) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cpu : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
gpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ssd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
hdd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ps: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
opt drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
keyboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
mouse: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
speakers: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
heatsink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
os: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total estimated price: $2085.85 without tax and shipping so around $2400 after tax and shipping. Thanks for any suggestions in advanced.

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July 13, 2012 4:23:56 PM

That's a good start but could use a bit of tweaking. On a gaming build I wouldn't waste the money on the Asus Sabertooth - the Gigabyte UD5H will cover all the bases and is about $60 cheaper, and you won't use the extra threads and features of the 2600K. Plus Cooler Master has a horrendous reputation when it comes to power supplies.

Try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($417.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 ATX Full Tower Case ($147.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHBS112-04 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($76.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1583.43
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

Add whatever monitor and peripherals you want and you're good to go. I don't suggest those things as they're entirely personal preference and I'm not a fan of spending $150 on them when you can put that elsewhere.
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July 13, 2012 4:44:54 PM

If I don't want to overclock do I need an Ivybridge? I hear it has lots of heat problems. Also, is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... not good enough for my purposes? If I get the other one it would be $100 more, does the card I listed not do what I would need of it? Thanks.
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July 13, 2012 5:10:02 PM

The 670 is definitely superior to the 7870. However, if you want an upgrade to the 7870 that isn't $100 more, consider getting the twin frozr 7950, on newegg now for $320 post-rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... It's really an incredible deal. The 7950 has 50% more VRAM, 75% more shaders and texture units, and is generally a kickass card. For $20 more there is really no reason to go for the 7870 IMO, especially if you overclock the 7950. (But it's still sensible to go to the 670, which is also a great card, better than the 7950.)
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July 13, 2012 5:13:58 PM

Ivy Bridge is actually a better option if you're not going to overclock - it's Sandy that you want if you want to overclock. Ivy is a little bit faster per-clock than Sandy, but gets hotter when overclocked.

The build g-unit posted is fantastic, but there are some modifications I'd make:

1) Either replace the 5400RPM HDD with a 7200RPM disk, or get a 256GB SSD. The 5400RPM drive isn't really conducive to having games on it (slow load times), and the 128GB SSD isn't really large enough to hold all those games.

2) You don't really need the Hyper 212 cooler right now, since you're not overclocking. If you choose to in the future, you could get whatever cooler meets your needs then.

Since you're building a gaming rig, there's no need to get a CPU any more powerful than the 3570k (anything else will be wasted money), and there's also no need for 16GB of RAM (also wasted). That money is better spent on the GTX670, which will obliterate those games you listed (in the best way possible). The 7870 is a good card, but the 670 is better.
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July 13, 2012 6:16:30 PM

Here is my edited list of parts:

Can someone confirm that this would do what I want it to?

Purpose: Gaming (Ultra w/ no Lag) / Streaming Videos (1080p Quality)

Main Parts:

Computer Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Graphics Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Solid State Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hard Disc Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Optical Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Heat Sink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Operating System: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Additional Devices:

Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Keyboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mouse: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Speakers: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here are the following changes I made to my first list:

Case: Same
Motherboard: Same
Processor: Changed
Memory: Changed
Graphics Card: Changed
Solid State Drive: Same
Hard Disc Drive: Same
Power Supply: Same
Optical Drive: Changed
Heat Sink: Changed
Operating System: Changed

Monitor: Same
Keyboard: Same
Mouse: Same
Speakers: Same

After Shipping & Handling (Before Tax): $2077.29

I went $77.29 over my ideal budget, but the extra money for a superior card is worth it.

Questions:

1. Will this build perform like I want it to (See Above)?

2. Will this build allow me to upgrade in the future or is it pretty much at it's limit? By limit I mean without having to replace the Motherboard and Processor within at least 5 years. I know new hardware comes out each month or so, but would I be fine with my build to not have to build another new computer for at least 5 years?

Thanks for all the helpful ideas and suggestions everyone!
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July 13, 2012 6:32:58 PM

that PSU is completely inappropriate. you do not need a 800 watt psu to SLI two 670s - even a 650 watt will handle that no problem. you will not need 6 PCI power connectors since the motherboard will realistically handle 2 graphics cards in SLI (x8 mode; the third x16 slot is x 4 mode.

its too big and too expensive. the PC power and cooling that g-unit posted is much more appropriate.
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July 13, 2012 6:40:32 PM

Anonymous said:
that PSU is completely inappropriate. you do not need a 800 watt psu to SLI two 670s - even a 650 watt will handle that no problem. you will not need 6 PCI power connectors since the motherboard will realistically handle 2 graphics cards in SLI (x8 mode; the third x16 slot is x 4 mode.

its too big and too expensive. the PC power and cooling that g-unit posted is much more appropriate.


Not only that - as I said before Cooler Master has a horrendous reputation when it comes to power supplies. Go with Corsair or Seasonic - they're far safer bets.

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Can someone confirm that this would do what I want it to?


Get the Ares low profile RAM instead of the Ripjaw X and I'd say you're good to go: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I still wouldn't pay that kind of money for the Sabertooth - I'd go with the UD5H but that's just my opinion.
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July 13, 2012 6:41:37 PM

Anonymous said:
that PSU is completely inappropriate. you do not need a 800 watt psu to SLI two 670s - even a 650 watt will handle that no problem. you will not need 6 PCI power connectors since the motherboard will realistically handle 2 graphics cards in SLI (x8 mode; the third x16 slot is x 4 mode.

its too big and too expensive. the PC power and cooling that g-unit posted is much more appropriate.


Okay, so you would just change the Power Supply from 800W -> What is posted by user?
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July 13, 2012 6:55:54 PM

g-unit1111 said:
This would be a better choice for the same price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or this for cheaper if you don't want modular: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Okay, I'll get that Sea Sonic Power Supply, I was just going for the Coolmaster because it had a 5 Star Rating. But, I will go with your experience on this. About the RAM can you explain the difference?

I'm guessing it is the timing part?

8
8-8-8

Better than:

9
9-9-9-24

I'm guessing that the one you linked is probably faster? But, is there maybe something in red or black? :D 
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July 13, 2012 7:01:41 PM

johnatrik said:
Okay, I'll get that Sea Sonic Power Supply, I was just going for the Coolmaster because it had a 5 Star Rating. But, I will go with your experience on this. About the RAM can you explain the difference?


Again I'll say it's always a bad idea to rely on stores for product reviews. That's why sites like this exist - to help people sort the good from the bad.

As far as the RAM goes - the one I linked to isn't about the timing - it has low profile heat spreaders which will make it easier to install that Hyper 212.
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July 13, 2012 7:12:25 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Again I'll say it's always a bad idea to rely on stores for product reviews. That's why sites like this exist - to help people sort the good from the bad.

As far as the RAM goes - the one I linked to isn't about the timing - it has low profile heat spreaders which will make it easier to install that Hyper 212.


Okay, I changed everything to as you posted. Have you ever ordered from Newegg? If so, do you know if they charge tax? I don't see any field for tax and when I click order it doesn't show any tax amount. Order total: $2084.01 after shipping.

Thanks so much for all your and everyone else's help. I plan to buy this on Monday. :) 
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July 13, 2012 7:14:41 PM

johnatrik said:
Okay, I changed everything to as you posted. Have you ever ordered from Newegg? If so, do you know if they charge tax? I don't see any field for tax and when I click order it doesn't show any tax amount. Order total: $2084.01 after shipping.

Thanks so much for all your and everyone else's help. I plan to buy this on Monday. :) 


I pretty much use Newegg exclusively anymore - I used to use Tiger Direct but their selection sucks anymore. They do charge tax in some states but I don't know which they do and which they don't.
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July 13, 2012 7:16:39 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I pretty much use Newegg exclusively anymore - I used to use Tiger Direct but their selection sucks anymore. They do charge tax in some states but I don't know which they do and which they don't.


Okay, that is perfect then. Thank you so much.
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July 13, 2012 7:16:57 PM

Best answer selected by johnatrik.
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