Printing custom DVD cover at 10-11/16 by 7-3/16 inches

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Do you know how to print a custom DVD cover the correct size?
7.2 by 10.7 inches

We're creating an hour-long self-playing autostart DVD from numerous
mpg, mov, avi, and wmv files on Windows XP to hand in with a DVD case
adorned with a perfectly fitting professional looking custom DVD cover
for an Art 101 final project next Thursday morning.

Measuring a professional DVD cover at 7 & 3/16 inches tall by 10 &
11/16 inches long (18.25 x 27.15 cm), we seem to need a printing ratio
of 1.5 to 1 to properly fit a DVD cover.

So we hand crafted our custom DVD project cover to that 1.5 aspect
ratio by cropping at 992 x 1488 pixels (after having downloaded a few
DVD test covers from http://www.cdcovers.cc for sizing purposes).

In the freeware Irfanview 3.97 printing dialog, we've set the custom
print size to 7.2 by 10.7 inches (with top and left margins set to
zero) - but the resulting image on an 8.5 x 11 inch sheet of paper in
an HP OfficeJet 145 printer is always a quarter inch too small on the
length (i.e., it always prints at 7.2 x 10.5 inches no matter what we
do).

Running a few tests on both the length and width settings, it appears
the HP officejet printer "reserves" 1/2 inch of the margins (even when
all margins are set to zero) such that the largest size this printer
will print appears to be 8 x 10.5 inches.

But maybe there is a way to override this half-inch HP-reserved
margin?

Do you know how to print a DVD cover to 7.2 x 10.7 inches on this HP
OfficeJet 145 color printer? Can the HP officejet print greater than
10.5 inches in length on standard-size 11-inch photographic paper?

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>Do you know how to print a DVD cover to 7.2 x 10.7 inches on the HP
>OfficeJet 145 color printer? Can the HP officejet print greater than
>10.5 inches in length on standard-size 11-inch photographic paper?
-------
The OfficeJet 145 printers don't support printing to the edge, 10.5"
is the best you'll get on 11" paper. You'll need to use 14" paper and
cut it down after printing.

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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:57:14 GMT, Sondra R. Wilson
<S.R.Wilson@northcarolinastate.edu> wrote:

>Do you know how to print a custom DVD cover the correct size?
> 7.2 by 10.7 inches
....
>Running a few tests on both the length and width settings, it appears
>the HP officejet printer "reserves" 1/2 inch of the margins (even when
>all margins are set to zero) such that the largest size this printer
>will print appears to be 8 x 10.5 inches.
>
>But maybe there is a way to override this half-inch HP-reserved
>margin?

It is usual for HP ink models that you loose 1/2" because it needs to
hold the paper.
If your longest paper is 11", you have a problem.
(I'm in Europe and use "A4" sized paper wich is longer.)

Work-around suggestions:
*Use a CD-box instead (just remember to include a DVD-Video marking
somewhere).
or
*Cut and join the paper with thin double sided adhesive at the DVD-box
backside corner (glue might miscolour the printing).
/Jan

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"Sondra R. Wilson" <S.R.Wilson@northcarolinastate.edu> wrote in message
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> Do you know how to print a custom DVD cover the correct size?
> 7.2 by 10.7 inches
>
> We're creating an hour-long self-playing autostart DVD from numerous
> mpg, mov, avi, and wmv files on Windows XP to hand in with a DVD case
> adorned with a perfectly fitting professional looking custom DVD cover
> for an Art 101 final project next Thursday morning.
>
> Measuring a professional DVD cover at 7 & 3/16 inches tall by 10 &
> 11/16 inches long (18.25 x 27.15 cm), we seem to need a printing ratio
> of 1.5 to 1 to properly fit a DVD cover.
>
> So we hand crafted our custom DVD project cover to that 1.5 aspect
> ratio by cropping at 992 x 1488 pixels (after having downloaded a few
> DVD test covers from http://www.cdcovers.cc for sizing purposes).
>
> In the freeware Irfanview 3.97 printing dialog, we've set the custom
> print size to 7.2 by 10.7 inches (with top and left margins set to
> zero) - but the resulting image on an 8.5 x 11 inch sheet of paper in
> an HP OfficeJet 145 printer is always a quarter inch too small on the
> length (i.e., it always prints at 7.2 x 10.5 inches no matter what we
> do).
>
> Running a few tests on both the length and width settings, it appears
> the HP officejet printer "reserves" 1/2 inch of the margins (even when
> all margins are set to zero) such that the largest size this printer
> will print appears to be 8 x 10.5 inches.
>
> But maybe there is a way to override this half-inch HP-reserved
> margin?
>
> Do you know how to print a DVD cover to 7.2 x 10.7 inches on this HP
> OfficeJet 145 color printer? Can the HP officejet print greater than
> 10.5 inches in length on standard-size 11-inch photographic paper?

Legal size paper that is photo quality seems non-existant in the
marketplace...so...
....If you can't find photo quality legal sized paper, then purchase larger
format photo sheets and cut them to legal size so that your printer can
handle the width. Then just make sure you designate your original document
page setup as legal (8.5x14).
This will get you the result you are looking for with room to spare.

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You could also try checking the borderless print option in the HP's setup
menu. I've been printing some 4x6's that way and its worked fine.

Steve

"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
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>
> "Sondra R. Wilson" <S.R.Wilson@northcarolinastate.edu> wrote in message
> news:e09uf114u6m1q10p3s5tkfcqrt71rjk4qo@4ax.com...
>> Do you know how to print a custom DVD cover the correct size?
>> 7.2 by 10.7 inches
>>
>> We're creating an hour-long self-playing autostart DVD from numerous
>> mpg, mov, avi, and wmv files on Windows XP to hand in with a DVD case
>> adorned with a perfectly fitting professional looking custom DVD cover
>> for an Art 101 final project next Thursday morning.
>>
>> Measuring a professional DVD cover at 7 & 3/16 inches tall by 10 &
>> 11/16 inches long (18.25 x 27.15 cm), we seem to need a printing ratio
>> of 1.5 to 1 to properly fit a DVD cover.
>>
>> So we hand crafted our custom DVD project cover to that 1.5 aspect
>> ratio by cropping at 992 x 1488 pixels (after having downloaded a few
>> DVD test covers from http://www.cdcovers.cc for sizing purposes).
>>
>> In the freeware Irfanview 3.97 printing dialog, we've set the custom
>> print size to 7.2 by 10.7 inches (with top and left margins set to
>> zero) - but the resulting image on an 8.5 x 11 inch sheet of paper in
>> an HP OfficeJet 145 printer is always a quarter inch too small on the
>> length (i.e., it always prints at 7.2 x 10.5 inches no matter what we
>> do).
>>
>> Running a few tests on both the length and width settings, it appears
>> the HP officejet printer "reserves" 1/2 inch of the margins (even when
>> all margins are set to zero) such that the largest size this printer
>> will print appears to be 8 x 10.5 inches.
>>
>> But maybe there is a way to override this half-inch HP-reserved
>> margin?
>>
>> Do you know how to print a DVD cover to 7.2 x 10.7 inches on this HP
>> OfficeJet 145 color printer? Can the HP officejet print greater than
>> 10.5 inches in length on standard-size 11-inch photographic paper?
>
> Legal size paper that is photo quality seems non-existant in the
> marketplace...so...
> ...If you can't find photo quality legal sized paper, then purchase larger
> format photo sheets and cut them to legal size so that your printer can
> handle the width. Then just make sure you designate your original
> document page setup as legal (8.5x14).
> This will get you the result you are looking for with room to spare.
>

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"Steve @verizon.net>" <sckenney<rmv this> wrote in message
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> You could also try checking the borderless print option in the HP's setup
> menu. I've been printing some 4x6's that way and its worked fine.

I don't think his HP can do that.
Most HP printers can't.
-Glad yours can!

> Steve
>
>
> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
> newsTHLe.657$ct5.446@fed1read04...
>>
>> "Sondra R. Wilson" <S.R.Wilson@northcarolinastate.edu> wrote in message
>> news:e09uf114u6m1q10p3s5tkfcqrt71rjk4qo@4ax.com...
>>> Do you know how to print a custom DVD cover the correct size?
>>> 7.2 by 10.7 inches
>>>
>>> We're creating an hour-long self-playing autostart DVD from numerous
>>> mpg, mov, avi, and wmv files on Windows XP to hand in with a DVD case
>>> adorned with a perfectly fitting professional looking custom DVD cover
>>> for an Art 101 final project next Thursday morning.
>>>
>>> Measuring a professional DVD cover at 7 & 3/16 inches tall by 10 &
>>> 11/16 inches long (18.25 x 27.15 cm), we seem to need a printing ratio
>>> of 1.5 to 1 to properly fit a DVD cover.
>>>
>>> So we hand crafted our custom DVD project cover to that 1.5 aspect
>>> ratio by cropping at 992 x 1488 pixels (after having downloaded a few
>>> DVD test covers from http://www.cdcovers.cc for sizing purposes).
>>>
>>> In the freeware Irfanview 3.97 printing dialog, we've set the custom
>>> print size to 7.2 by 10.7 inches (with top and left margins set to
>>> zero) - but the resulting image on an 8.5 x 11 inch sheet of paper in
>>> an HP OfficeJet 145 printer is always a quarter inch too small on the
>>> length (i.e., it always prints at 7.2 x 10.5 inches no matter what we
>>> do).
>>>
>>> Running a few tests on both the length and width settings, it appears
>>> the HP officejet printer "reserves" 1/2 inch of the margins (even when
>>> all margins are set to zero) such that the largest size this printer
>>> will print appears to be 8 x 10.5 inches.
>>>
>>> But maybe there is a way to override this half-inch HP-reserved
>>> margin?
>>>
>>> Do you know how to print a DVD cover to 7.2 x 10.7 inches on this HP
>>> OfficeJet 145 color printer? Can the HP officejet print greater than
>>> 10.5 inches in length on standard-size 11-inch photographic paper?
>>
>> Legal size paper that is photo quality seems non-existant in the
>> marketplace...so...
>> ...If you can't find photo quality legal sized paper, then purchase
>> larger format photo sheets and cut them to legal size so that your
>> printer can handle the width. Then just make sure you designate your
>> original document page setup as legal (8.5x14).
>> This will get you the result you are looking for with room to spare.
>>
>
>

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This free software may be of help......

http://www.coverxp.com/main.asp?page=download.asp

It resizes images to fit various CD formats and DVD arrangements.

I use the free version and it works a treat!

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Sondra R. Wilson wrote:
<snip>int appears to be 8 x 10.5 inches.
>
> But maybe there is a way to override this half-inch HP-reserved
> margin?
>
> Do you know how to print a DVD cover to 7.2 x 10.7 inches on this HP
> OfficeJet 145 color printer? Can the HP officejet print greater than
> 10.5 inches in length on standard-size 11-inch photographic paper?

No it can't. It needs that margin to hold the paper in place as it nears the end of the
printed area. Perhaps you can temporarily mount the photo paper on 8 1/2 X 14" paper. Or
permanently, if you can hand in the work that way.

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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:32:02 -0400, Marvin <physchem@cloud9.net>
wrote:

>> Do you know how to print a DVD cover to 7.2 x 10.7 inches on this HP
>> OfficeJet 145 color printer? Can the HP officejet print greater than
>> 10.5 inches in length on standard-size 11-inch photographic paper?
>
> No it can't. The HP OJ needs that margin to hold the paper in place
> Perhaps you can mount the photo paper on 8 1/2 X 14" paper.

Well, since the most obvious approach (of eliminating the 1/2 inch HP
margin) failed ... I wonder if we can "trick" the HP OJ 145 into
"thinking" it has legal-sized photographic paper installed?

That is, do you think we can "tell" the printer it has legal size
paper but then actually print on letter-sized paper?

I would think it would be our responsibility to make sure the actual
print didn't go over the actual size of the paper but that would seem
to be easy since we're using Irfanview to "tell" the printer to limit
the size of the printout to 7.2 by 10.7 inches.

Since we can't be the first people in the USA to want to print a DVD
cover on an HP OfficeJet, we wonder if this approach of telling the
printer it has larger paper than it really has will work? Do you think
it stands a chance? Before we try it, we should ask if you think
damage can occur (we will limit the print size to 7.2 x 10.7 inches
which is smaller than the actual size of the paper).

Does this look like it will work?

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"Sondra R. Wilson" <S.R.Wilson@northcarolinastate.edu> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:32:02 -0400, Marvin <physchem@cloud9.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> Do you know how to print a DVD cover to 7.2 x 10.7 inches on this HP
>>> OfficeJet 145 color printer? Can the HP officejet print greater than
>>> 10.5 inches in length on standard-size 11-inch photographic paper?
>>
>> No it can't. The HP OJ needs that margin to hold the paper in place
>> Perhaps you can mount the photo paper on 8 1/2 X 14" paper.
>
> Well, since the most obvious approach (of eliminating the 1/2 inch HP
> margin) failed ... I wonder if we can "trick" the HP OJ 145 into
> "thinking" it has legal-sized photographic paper installed?
>
> That is, do you think we can "tell" the printer it has legal size
> paper but then actually print on letter-sized paper?
>
> I would think it would be our responsibility to make sure the actual
> print didn't go over the actual size of the paper but that would seem
> to be easy since we're using Irfanview to "tell" the printer to limit
> the size of the printout to 7.2 by 10.7 inches.
>
> Since we can't be the first people in the USA to want to print a DVD
> cover on an HP OfficeJet, we wonder if this approach of telling the
> printer it has larger paper than it really has will work? Do you think
> it stands a chance? Before we try it, we should ask if you think
> damage can occur (we will limit the print size to 7.2 x 10.7 inches
> which is smaller than the actual size of the paper).
>
> Does this look like it will work?

No that won't work, you can't trick the printer. Personally I just use 8.5 x
14 Epson photo quality paper. It's not the thick glossy paper (which is
glossy cardstock) but it's thinner paper with a sligtly glossy coating, it's
thickness is like 2 sheets of normal paper. It works great.

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Sondra R. Wilson wrote:

> Running a few tests on both the length and width settings, it appears
> the HP officejet printer "reserves" 1/2 inch of the margins (even when
> all margins are set to zero) such that the largest size this printer
> will print appears to be 8 x 10.5 inches.
>
> But maybe there is a way to override this half-inch HP-reserved
> margin?

My little OfficeJet v40 doesn't seem to have this limitation.

As someone else noted, you could try telling it you have legal-size
paper - the printer should then start with its oversized margin at the
top of the page but go the past it at the bottom. It MAY complain that
it's out of paper once it's done printing, but that can just be dismissed.

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coverxp works great for me
and as guess who said its free

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Sondra R. Wilson <S.R.Wilson@northcarolinastate.edu> wrote:

> Do you know how to print a custom DVD cover the correct size?
> 7.2 by 10.7 inches
>
> We're creating an hour-long self-playing autostart DVD from numerous
> mpg, mov, avi, and wmv files on Windows XP to hand in with a DVD case
> adorned with a perfectly fitting professional looking custom DVD cover
> for an Art 101 final project next Thursday morning.
>
> Measuring a professional DVD cover at 7 & 3/16 inches tall by 10 &
> 11/16 inches long (18.25 x 27.15 cm), we seem to need a printing ratio
> of 1.5 to 1 to properly fit a DVD cover.

Hmmm... I don't know exactly the size of standard DVD cover, but if yours
is standard then I would suggest SureThing (www.surething.com)

Yes, there are lot of CD/DVD label printing programs out there (even
bundle with CD/DVD cover printer like Epson), but the problem that many
program will either Squeeze or Stretch the photo to fit the size of label
you select it makes the photo either too fat/thin. SureThing in other hand
will keep the exact RATIO, and it supports many different label format and
even CD/DVD cover printers.

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Sondra R. Wilson wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:32:02 -0400, Marvin <physchem@cloud9.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>Do you know how to print a DVD cover to 7.2 x 10.7 inches on this HP
>>>OfficeJet 145 color printer? Can the HP officejet print greater than
>>>10.5 inches in length on standard-size 11-inch photographic paper?
>>
>>No it can't. The HP OJ needs that margin to hold the paper in place
>>Perhaps you can mount the photo paper on 8 1/2 X 14" paper.
>
>
> Well, since the most obvious approach (of eliminating the 1/2 inch HP
> margin) failed ... I wonder if we can "trick" the HP OJ 145 into
> "thinking" it has legal-sized photographic paper installed?
>
> That is, do you think we can "tell" the printer it has legal size
> paper but then actually print on letter-sized paper?

If you do that, the paper is likely to move while you are printing the last half inch of
your image. You won't be happy with the reuslt. But you are free to try it for yourself.

>
> I would think it would be our responsibility to make sure the actual
> print didn't go over the actual size of the paper but that would seem
> to be easy since we're using Irfanview to "tell" the printer to limit
> the size of the printout to 7.2 by 10.7 inches.
>
> Since we can't be the first people in the USA to want to print a DVD
> cover on an HP OfficeJet, we wonder if this approach of telling the
> printer it has larger paper than it really has will work? Do you think
> it stands a chance? Before we try it, we should ask if you think
> damage can occur (we will limit the print size to 7.2 x 10.7 inches
> which is smaller than the actual size of the paper).

The only possible damage is that you'll spray a little ink on parts of the printer. At
worst, you'll have to spend some time cleaning up.
>
> Does this look like it will work?

I think it is better to know what is possible and find a way to work within the
constraints. A computer or printer can be very stubborn.

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use
coverXP

"Ro" <aoxw93@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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>I use Nero cover designer, its quite simple. I got fed up with my HP
> printer reducing the size of the cover but Epson one did it perfectly
> without the need for messing around with settings.
>

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"dave dave" <dave@scotiasbairn.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

> use
> coverXP

I do know what CoverXP is, and I would suggest to shop for other. Or I
would suggest to give SureThing a try.

Like I have mentioned in other message about Making_Foto_Fits_Window will
cause the photo looks either Fat/Thin, or it won't keep the same ratio.
CoverXP is one, the program comes with Epson CD printer is other, and few
more I don't remember all the name.

Surething will always keep the exact RATIO and it's a very important part
of good printing.

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http://ct.download.com.com/clicks? [...] &ds=5&fs=0
License: Free
456 downloads last week

Automatically resizing images and allowing easy drag-and-drop
transfers of Web images make this DVD-cover printer a cinch
to use.

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> Automatically resizing images and allowing easy drag-and-drop
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> to use.

Is everyone who suggested a software answer full of it or do I not
understnad the fundamental problem of printing a DVD on letter sized paper?

If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of the
paper?

Am I the idiot or is everyone who posted software suggestions the idiots?
I'm willing for it to be either way in the interest of learning the answer!

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>> http://ct.download.com.com/clicks? [...] &ds=5&fs=0
>> License: Free
>> 456 downloads last week
>>
>> Automatically resizing images and allowing easy drag-and-drop
>> transfers of Web images make this DVD-cover printer a cinch
>> to use.
>
> Is everyone who suggested a software answer full of it or do I not
> understnad the fundamental problem of printing a DVD on letter sized
> paper?
>
> If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
> recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of the
> paper?
>
> Am I the idiot or is everyone who posted software suggestions the idiots?
> I'm willing for it to be either way in the interest of learning the
> answer!

You are correct.
People are basically missing or ignoring the key issue of the OP.
No software can bypass the edge coverage limitations of any printer.
Printers must have the means to hold the paper to allow printing to the back
and front edges.
Software won't change this.

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>>> http://ct.download.com.com/clicks? [...] &ds=5&fs=0
>>> License: Free
>>> 456 downloads last week
>>>
>>> Automatically resizing images and allowing easy drag-and-drop
>>> transfers of Web images make this DVD-cover printer a cinch
>>> to use.
>>
>> Is everyone who suggested a software answer full of it or do I not
>> understnad the fundamental problem of printing a DVD on letter sized
>> paper?
>>
>> If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
>> recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of the
>> paper?
>>
>> Am I the idiot or is everyone who posted software suggestions the idiots?
>> I'm willing for it to be either way in the interest of learning the
>> answer!
>
> You are correct.
> People are basically missing or ignoring the key issue of the OP.
> No software can bypass the edge coverage limitations of any printer.
> Printers must have the means to hold the paper to allow printing to the
> back and front edges.
> Software won't change this.
>

A bit *learning myself here* (As I simply don't have a borderless printer)
However I've tried printing a label for the box size DVD that takes 8 or 10
DVD's (For my TV Series DVD)
When the box is open I can JUST fit in an A4 sheet of paper (Obviously a
tiny bit of trimming)

I take it the borderless printers don't print A4 size borderless but mainly
for the small photo size papers?

O-K, I know it's nothing to do with the letter size but hey, It's worth know
:-))

Al.

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"Weird Al" <weird@no.fuss.com> wrote in message
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>>>> http://ct.download.com.com/clicks? [...] &ds=5&fs=0
>>>> License: Free
>>>> 456 downloads last week
>>>>
>>>> Automatically resizing images and allowing easy drag-and-drop
>>>> transfers of Web images make this DVD-cover printer a cinch
>>>> to use.
>>>
>>> Is everyone who suggested a software answer full of it or do I not
>>> understnad the fundamental problem of printing a DVD on letter sized
>>> paper?
>>>
>>> If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
>>> recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of
>>> the
>>> paper?
>>>
>>> Am I the idiot or is everyone who posted software suggestions the
>>> idiots?
>>> I'm willing for it to be either way in the interest of learning the
>>> answer!
>>
>> You are correct.
>> People are basically missing or ignoring the key issue of the OP.
>> No software can bypass the edge coverage limitations of any printer.
>> Printers must have the means to hold the paper to allow printing to the
>> back and front edges.
>> Software won't change this.
>>
>
> A bit *learning myself here* (As I simply don't have a borderless printer)
> However I've tried printing a label for the box size DVD that takes 8 or
> 10 DVD's (For my TV Series DVD)
> When the box is open I can JUST fit in an A4 sheet of paper (Obviously a
> tiny bit of trimming)
>
> I take it the borderless printers don't print A4 size borderless but
> mainly for the small photo size papers?
>
> O-K, I know it's nothing to do with the letter size but hey, It's worth
> know :-))

The OP's problem was that HIS printer couldn't handle back-edge printing.
Most can't. The discussion was specific to his situation. Some others'
experience will differ as their printers differ.

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"Metal Oxide" <AccroxR@hotmail.com> wrote:

> http://ct.download.com.com/clicks? [...] &ds=5&fs=0
> License: Free
> 456 downloads last week
>
> Automatically resizing images and allowing easy drag-and-drop
> transfers of Web images make this DVD-cover printer a cinch
> to use.

"Auto-Resizing.." sounds like a good feature for other thing, but for
printing it sounds like another scary feature. Of course I don't use the
program to know for sure, but "Auto-Ratioing" should be a treat.

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"B. Rubenstein" <B.A.Rubenstein34@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Is everyone who suggested a software answer full of it or do I not
> understnad the fundamental problem of printing a DVD on letter sized paper?
>
> If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
> recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of the
> paper?
>
> Am I the idiot or is everyone who posted software suggestions the idiots?
> I'm willing for it to be either way in the interest of learning the answer!

Who knows, you may be another editot til you learn you are not one of
them. By looking at the way you quote the message full_of_header, I have a
feeling you are full_of_it <g>

> If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
> recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of the
> paper?

I guess you will need to ask the program to help you to get rid of the
idiot syndrome. Cuz *if* a program is designed to print DVD Label then it
should know what the requirement, and what to do to.

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"Weird Al" <weird@no.fuss.com> wrote:

> A bit *learning myself here* (As I simply don't have a borderless printer)
> However I've tried printing a label for the box size DVD that takes 8 or 10
> DVD's (For my TV Series DVD)
> When the box is open I can JUST fit in an A4 sheet of paper (Obviously a
> tiny bit of trimming)
>
> I take it the borderless printers don't print A4 size borderless but mainly
> for the small photo size papers?
>
> O-K, I know it's nothing to do with the letter size but hey, It's worth know
> :-))

If we don't know what to learn then no need to learn, or lets other do all
the learning for us <g>. One of the easiest way is to try the program
designed specific for DVD Cover or Label, and let the program teach us what
we need (the requirement) for it to do thing correctly. If some program
doesn't do correctly then look for other (some may have bug on some printer
or cover). Cuz it's very simple.

1. The program may not work *if* doesn't meet the requirement

2. If it meets the requirement then it's 99-99.99% chance to work.

I don't know what the original poster want to print, but I did printed
around 100+ DVD sleeve covers (standard DVD cover you see in store), and
printed thousands of DVD covers directly on Inkjet Printable CD/DVD.

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"Joe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
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"B. Rubenstein" <B.A.Rubenstein34@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Is everyone who suggested a software answer full of it or do I not
> understnad the fundamental problem of printing a DVD on letter sized
> paper?
>
> If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
> recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of the
> paper?
>
> Am I the idiot or is everyone who posted software suggestions the idiots?
> I'm willing for it to be either way in the interest of learning the
> answer!

Who knows, you may be another editot til you learn you are not one of
them. By looking at the way you quote the message full_of_header, I have a
feeling you are full_of_it <g>

> If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
> recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of the
> paper?

I guess you will need to ask the program to help you to get rid of the
idiot syndrome. Cuz *if* a program is designed to print DVD Label then it
should know what the requirement, and what to do to.
----------------------------------

Whether the program "knows what to do" has no bearing on whether a given
printer can physically carry out the operation.

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"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote:

> "Joe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
> news:43058920.43078192@anonymous.com...
> "B. Rubenstein" <B.A.Rubenstein34@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Is everyone who suggested a software answer full of it or do I not
> > understnad the fundamental problem of printing a DVD on letter sized
> > paper?
> >
> > If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
> > recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of the
> > paper?
> >
> > Am I the idiot or is everyone who posted software suggestions the idiots?
> > I'm willing for it to be either way in the interest of learning the
> > answer!
>
> Who knows, you may be another editot til you learn you are not one of
> them. By looking at the way you quote the message full_of_header, I have a
> feeling you are full_of_it <g>
>
> > If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
> > recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of the
> > paper?
>
> I guess you will need to ask the program to help you to get rid of the
> idiot syndrome. Cuz *if* a program is designed to print DVD Label then it
> should know what the requirement, and what to do to.
> ----------------------------------
>
> Whether the program "knows what to do" has no bearing on whether a given
> printer can physically carry out the operation.

When the programmer designs a program to do something s/he should know
what s/he wants the program to do, and what hardware to support his/her
program.

So, if you want to print a DVD Labal or Cover or whatever then look for a
specific program designed for specific need. The first few program may not
give the exact option we have in mind, but at least it should be acceptable,
and then we can continue to look for more option.

IOW, if the program is designed to print DVD Cover then it should be able
to print a DVD Cover within its requirement (like supported printer's, or
specific Cover template for specific design).

I have been printing CD/DVD cover (directly on CD/DVD Inkjet Printable,
and on CD label), and DVD sleeve cover for some years on both HP and Epson
printers. And of course I didn't response to the original poster because I
have no idea what s/he needs that requires more than basic program or
printer.

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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 14:03:05 -0500, dont@spam.me (Joe) wrote:

>"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote:
>
>> "Joe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
>> news:43058920.43078192@anonymous.com...
>> "B. Rubenstein" <B.A.Rubenstein34@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Is everyone who suggested a software answer full of it or do I not
>> > understnad the fundamental problem of printing a DVD on letter sized
>> > paper?
>> >
>> > If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
>> > recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of the
>> > paper?
>> >
>> > Am I the idiot or is everyone who posted software suggestions the idiots?
>> > I'm willing for it to be either way in the interest of learning the
>> > answer!
>>
>> Who knows, you may be another editot til you learn you are not one of
>> them. By looking at the way you quote the message full_of_header, I have a
>> feeling you are full_of_it <g>
>>
>> > If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
>> > recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of the
>> > paper?
>>
>> I guess you will need to ask the program to help you to get rid of the
>> idiot syndrome. Cuz *if* a program is designed to print DVD Label then it
>> should know what the requirement, and what to do to.
>> ----------------------------------
>>
>> Whether the program "knows what to do" has no bearing on whether a given
>> printer can physically carry out the operation.
>
> When the programmer designs a program to do something s/he should know
>what s/he wants the program to do, and what hardware to support his/her
>program.

As everyone has been telling you, you have no idea what you're talking
about. No offense intended, but if the original poster's printer is
unable to print all the way to the margin, then no software, real or
imagined, is going to suddenly be able to give it that capability.

--
Bill

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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 10:29:13 -0500, dont@spam.me (Joe) wrote:

....
>all
>the learning for us <g>. One of the easiest way is to try the program
>designed specific for DVD Cover or Label, and let the program teach us =
>what
>we need (the requirement) for it to do thing correctly. If some program
>doesn't do correctly then look for other (some may have bug on some =
>printer
>or cover). Cuz it's very simple.
>
>1. The program may not work *if* doesn't meet the requirement
>
>2. If it meets the requirement then it's 99-99.99% chance to work.
>
> I don't know what the original poster want to print, but I did printed
>around 100+ DVD sleeve covers (standard DVD cover you see in store), and
>printed thousands of DVD covers directly on Inkjet Printable CD/DVD.

The OP wanted to print 10.7" on 11" paper using an HP inkjet printer
which apearently needs 0.5" at the bottom to hold on to the paper.

(My HP printers also need that margin, but I use A4 sized paper so I
have no problems with the DVD-sleeve size.)

Maybe there is some margin built in (in the 0.5" margin) you could
squezze out, but if the paper is not held steady the print at the end
will not look good.
/Jan

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"Bill G" <niobrara969@none.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 14:03:05 -0500, dont@spam.me (Joe) wrote:
>
>>"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Joe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
>>> news:43058920.43078192@anonymous.com...
>>> "B. Rubenstein" <B.A.Rubenstein34@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Is everyone who suggested a software answer full of it or do I not
>>> > understnad the fundamental problem of printing a DVD on letter sized
>>> > paper?
>>> >
>>> > If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
>>> > recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of
>>> > the
>>> > paper?
>>> >
>>> > Am I the idiot or is everyone who posted software suggestions the
>>> > idiots?
>>> > I'm willing for it to be either way in the interest of learning the
>>> > answer!
>>>
>>> Who knows, you may be another editot til you learn you are not one of
>>> them. By looking at the way you quote the message full_of_header, I
>>> have a
>>> feeling you are full_of_it <g>
>>>
>>> > If the printer doesn't print to the edge of the paper how is all this
>>> > recommended software going to get the printer to print to the edge of
>>> > the
>>> > paper?
>>>
>>> I guess you will need to ask the program to help you to get rid of the
>>> idiot syndrome. Cuz *if* a program is designed to print DVD Label then
>>> it
>>> should know what the requirement, and what to do to.
>>> ----------------------------------
>>>
>>> Whether the program "knows what to do" has no bearing on whether a given
>>> printer can physically carry out the operation.
>>
>> When the programmer designs a program to do something s/he should know
>>what s/he wants the program to do, and what hardware to support his/her
>>program.
>
> As everyone has been telling you, you have no idea what you're talking
> about. No offense intended, but if the original poster's printer is
> unable to print all the way to the margin, then no software, real or
> imagined, is going to suddenly be able to give it that capability.

Joe seems to think we're talking about CD labels, as in, little round prints
that you either stick onto the disc, or print directly onto the disc.
That, of course, was never the question.
Hey Joe:
This is about DVD *case* labels.
A standard size DVD *case label*...wraps from the front...over the
spine...and onto the back. The measurements of this particular sheet are
longer than most printers can handle with standard letter-sized sheets.

**It makes absolutely no difference what layout program one uses to design
this, if the printer can't print close enough to the edge to fill the entire
space of the label. This means one must either have a printer capable of
this, or...one must use a longer sheet.

Got it yet??

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Bill G <niobrara969@none.invalid> wrote:

> > When the programmer designs a program to do something s/he should know
> >what s/he wants the program to do, and what hardware to support his/her
> >program.
>
> As everyone has been telling you, you have no idea what you're talking
> about. No offense intended, but if the original poster's printer is
> unable to print all the way to the margin, then no software, real or
> imagined, is going to suddenly be able to give it that capability.

As I have told everyone that I do know what I am talking about. I don't
care what the oroginal poster posted or wanted, the *main* thing that get
the requirement then go from there.

Example, I have told you more than once *but* you still don't get it,
because you don't have the requirement (knowledge) to do the correct
thinking yet.

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"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote:

> Joe seems to think we're talking about CD labels, as in, little round prints
> that you either stick onto the disc, or print directly onto the disc.

No, Joe thinks we are talking about DVD sleeve cover (as Joe has mentioned
it clearly)

> That, of course, was never the question.
> Hey Joe:
> This is about DVD *case* labels.
> A standard size DVD *case label*...wraps from the front...over the
> spine...and onto the back. The measurements of this particular sheet are
> longer than most printers can handle with standard letter-sized sheets.

Yes, as Joe has mentioned it DVD Sleeve Cover (or DVD Cover) usually in
BLACK with clear plastic. Or the cover you see from commercial DVD in
store. Yes, the program can print DVD cover, Disc cover/label, also the CD
label (for regular CD like audio CD etc.). The only thing it can't do is
the POSTER (jumbo size)

And as Joe has mentioned Joe has printed hundred or few hundreds of those
"Got It Yet??".

> **It makes absolutely no difference what layout program one uses to design
> this, if the printer can't print close enough to the edge to fill the entire
> space of the label. This means one must either have a printer capable of
> this, or...one must use a longer sheet.
>
> Got it yet??

No, you should be the one to hear "Got It Yet" from Joe <bg>. Or unless
you have a special designed DVD case (larger than standard) then I sure need
the "got it yet".

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nospam@nospam.se (Jan B) wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 10:29:13 -0500, dont@spam.me (Joe) wrote:
>
> ...
> >all
> >the learning for us <g>. One of the easiest way is to try the program
> >designed specific for DVD Cover or Label, and let the program teach us =
> >what
> >we need (the requirement) for it to do thing correctly. If some program
> >doesn't do correctly then look for other (some may have bug on some =
> >printer
> >or cover). Cuz it's very simple.
> >
> >1. The program may not work *if* doesn't meet the requirement
> >
> >2. If it meets the requirement then it's 99-99.99% chance to work.
> >
> > I don't know what the original poster want to print, but I did printed
> >around 100+ DVD sleeve covers (standard DVD cover you see in store), and
> >printed thousands of DVD covers directly on Inkjet Printable CD/DVD.
>
>
> The OP wanted to print 10.7" on 11" paper using an HP inkjet printer
> which apearently needs 0.5" at the bottom to hold on to the paper.
>
> (My HP printers also need that margin, but I use A4 sized paper so I
> have no problems with the DVD-sleeve size.)
>
> Maybe there is some margin built in (in the 0.5" margin) you could
> squezze out, but if the paper is not held steady the print at the end
> will not look good.
> /Jan

I do not care what the OP wants. as what I said, if the OP wants to print
the standard DVD case label, then get the program and lets the program does
all the thinking for the OP.

I have Epson and HP printer, and had to trim off the width a little, the
length is about the same length with 11" (may trim off a hair). So, like I
said, find the program (try Surething) and lets it do all the figuring,
setting, printing etc.. and as long as you meet the requirement then it
should work. If not, try some trick. I don't pay much attention to what my
printers can do but I have

HP PhotoSmart 7350 (or something like that)

Epson Stylus Photo 900 (for DVD cover printing), and I printed DVD sleeve
cover with this printer.

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"Joe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
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Bill G <niobrara969@none.invalid> wrote:

> > When the programmer designs a program to do something s/he should know
> >what s/he wants the program to do, and what hardware to support his/her
> >program.
>
> As everyone has been telling you, you have no idea what you're talking
> about. No offense intended, but if the original poster's printer is
> unable to print all the way to the margin, then no software, real or
> imagined, is going to suddenly be able to give it that capability.

As I have told everyone that I do know what I am talking about. I don't
care what the oroginal poster posted or wanted, the *main* thing that get
the requirement then go from there.

Example, I have told you more than once *but* you still don't get it,
because you don't have the requirement (knowledge) to do the correct
thinking yet.
-----------------

How about simply clarifying, rather than being an arse about it?

Thanks.

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>"Joe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
>news:40797392.22331064@anonymous.com...
>nospam@nospam.se (Jan B) wrote:
>
>I do not care what the OP wants.

Then why are you responding?

>as what I said, if the OP wants to print
>the standard DVD case label, then get the program and lets the program does
>all the thinking for the OP.

You still don't get it.
A "program"...no matter how cool or smart...can't change the edge-printing
capability of a printer that isn't built to print that near the back edge.

>I don't pay much attention to what my
>printers can do

That's coming accross quite clearly.

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Mark² <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote:
>"Joe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message

>> > When the programmer designs a program to do something s/he should know
>> >what s/he wants the program to do, and what hardware to support his/her
>> >program.
>>
>> As everyone has been telling you, you have no idea what you're talking
>> about. No offense intended, but if the original poster's printer is
>> unable to print all the way to the margin, then no software, real or
>> imagined, is going to suddenly be able to give it that capability.
>
>As I have told everyone that I do know what I am talking about.

It is common for ignorant idiots to insist that they more than they
do and pretend that the fault lies with everybody else.

> I don't
>care what the oroginal poster posted or wanted, the *main* thing that get
>the requirement then go from there.
>
>Example, I have told you more than once *but* you still don't get it,

You babble nonsense.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Mark² <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote:
>>"Joe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
>
>>> > When the programmer designs a program to do something s/he should know
>>> >what s/he wants the program to do, and what hardware to support his/her
>>> >program.
>>>
>>> As everyone has been telling you, you have no idea what you're talking
>>> about. No offense intended, but if the original poster's printer is
>>> unable to print all the way to the margin, then no software, real or
>>> imagined, is going to suddenly be able to give it that capability.
>>
>>As I have told everyone that I do know what I am talking about.
>
> It is common for ignorant idiots to insist that they more than they
> do and pretend that the fault lies with everybody else.
>
>> I don't
>>care what the oroginal poster posted or wanted, the *main* thing that get
>>the requirement then go from there.
>>
>>Example, I have told you more than once *but* you still don't get it,
>
> You babble nonsense.
>
> --
> Ray Fischer

Just to clarify...
-You are responding to Joe's comments in the above post... Not mine.

-Mark

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"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote:

> >"Joe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
> >news:40797392.22331064@anonymous.com...
> >nospam@nospam.se (Jan B) wrote:
> >
> >I do not care what the OP wants.
>
> Then why are you responding?

Why am I responding? Because I response to give the ANSWER, and the
ANSWER mentions about the REQUIREMENT(s). Too simple to understand?

> >as what I said, if the OP wants to print
> >the standard DVD case label, then get the program and lets the program does
> >all the thinking for the OP.
>
> You still don't get it.

I don't have problem because I don't get it? you do get it but can't
figure out the problem? This you can say "I don't get it" <g>

> A "program"...no matter how cool or smart...can't change the edge-printing
> capability of a printer that isn't built to print that near the back edge.

And that is why I told you to start with the program instead of trying to
chew my behind for nothing. IOW, the program should be designed by a
SMARTER people (not by me) and they know exactly what their program can or
can't not do. You do not need to stand here to disagree with me which won't
stretch your printer margin any wider (be wiser to let the program handles
all the thinking instead)

> >I don't pay much attention to what my
> >printers can do
>
> That's coming accross quite clearly.

See, I am a much smarter person who know how to have program serves me, I
don't even need to know how the program and printer communicate with each
other. All I know is a perfect print. Got it?

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rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

> >As I have told everyone that I do know what I am talking about.
>
> It is common for ignorant idiots to insist that they more than they
> do and pretend that the fault lies with everybody else.

Hmmmm but how the stupid can tell it's the lie? of course they can't <g>

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>"Joe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
>news:41204624.41172368@anonymous.com...
>"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote:
>
>> >"Joe" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
>> >news:40797392.22331064@anonymous.com...
>> >nospam@nospam.se (Jan B) wrote:
>> >
>> >I do not care what the OP wants.
>>
>> Then why are you responding?
>
>Why am I responding? Because I response to give the ANSWER, and the
>ANSWER mentions about the REQUIREMENT(s). Too simple to understand?
>
>> >as what I said, if the OP wants to print
>> >the standard DVD case label, then get the program and lets the program
>> >does
>> >all the thinking for the OP.
>>
>> You still don't get it.
>
>I don't have problem because I don't get it? you do get it but can't
>figure out the problem? This you can say "I don't get it" <g>
>
>> A "program"...no matter how cool or smart...can't change the
>> edge-printing
>> capability of a printer that isn't built to print that near the back
>> edge.
>
>And that is why I told you to start with the program instead of trying to
>chew my behind for nothing. IOW, the program should be designed by a
>SMARTER people (not by me) and they know exactly what their program can or
>can't not do. You do not need to stand here to disagree with me which
>won't
>stretch your printer margin any wider (be wiser to let the program handles
>all the thinking instead)
>
>> >I don't pay much attention to what my
>> >printers can do
>>
>> That's coming accross quite clearly.
>
>See, I am a much smarter person who know how to have program serves me, I
>don't even need to know how the program and printer communicate with each
>other. All I know is a perfect print. Got it?

You are still talking about a "program."
A "program" has N-O-T-H-I-N-G whatever to do with the issue!
It is a HARDWARE-PRINTER issue...NOT a program issue!
MAN you are thick!

Feel free to respond, but I won't see it.
You are now in my plonk file, as my patience with your thick-headed attitude
has run out.
Good bye.

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"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote:

> You are still talking about a "program."
> A "program" has N-O-T-H-I-N-G whatever to do with the issue!
> It is a HARDWARE-PRINTER issue...NOT a program issue!
> MAN you are thick!

Yes, I am still talking about using the head for thinking. You are the
one with problem then thick or thin won't help, just let your head does the
thinking for you.

> Feel free to respond, but I won't see it.
> You are now in my plonk file, as my patience with your thick-headed attitude
> has run out.
> Good bye.

Oh.. I can feel the pain <g> I response to the message not the feeling,
so again, when you have problem then lets your head handles the thinking.

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