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July 14, 2012 11:55:37 AM

NZXT Case Phantom 410 White Performance Mid Tower Case with 2x120mm and 1x140mm Fans USB 3.0 No PSU


Seagate Hard Disk Drive 500GB SATA3 6Gb/s 3.5" 7200RPM 16MB


Intel CPU Core i5 2500K Sandybridge LGA1155 Retail boxed with cooler (3yr Manufacturer's Warranty)


CiT 750W Black PSU 12cm Dual 12v CE PFC Model 750UB


Gigabyte motherboard H61MA-D2V LGA1155 DDR3 ATX


Sapphire ATi Radeon HD 6670 2GB DDR3


Corsair memory 8GB SODIMM (2x4GB) DDR3 1333MHz 204pin Unbuffered





Note that this is the first time i have ever built a computer, and my budget isn't all too high.

Are these be compatible, and would it be worth it?:) 

Thanks in advance.
July 14, 2012 12:33:11 PM

Not quite. I think you'll find thats laptop memory.

BUT, the PSU is rubbish and overpowered, for that GPU and any single future GPU you'd be ok with a quality 500W.

From a balance point of view you have a really good cpu, plenty of memory (once you pick desktop memory), enough power (good 500W) and a weak GPU. if you can get a good 500W for less money, initially get 1x4 Gb of ram (get another 4 later as you only have 2 slots), and spend more on the GPU then you'd be better off.

You'd be better served with a Z77 board, but its not essential. You could also get a cheaper i5 and a better gpu.
July 14, 2012 12:57:56 PM

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Not quite. I think you'll find thats laptop memory.

BUT, the PSU is rubbish and overpowered, for that GPU and any single future GPU you'd be ok with a quality 500W.

From a balance point of view you have a really good cpu, plenty of memory (once you pick desktop memory), enough power (good 500W) and a weak GPU. if you can get a good 500W for less money, initially get 1x4 Gb of ram (get another 4 later as you only have 2 slots), and spend more on the GPU then you'd be better off.

You'd be better served with a Z77 board, but its not essential. You could also get a cheaper i5 and a better gpu.


Ah, that would have been a disaster, thankyou so much!



I have found one for £20 that (I think) is desktop:
Corsair memory 4GB Value Select (1x4GB) DDR3 1333MHz DIMM Unbuffered RAM



As for the PSU, I could either have: (£45)
Corsair PSU 500W CX500 V2 80+


Or: (£20)
CiT 500W Black PSU 12cm Dual 12v CE PFC Model 500UB


Is it worth the extra £25?



Now, with them changes I have about £100 left for a GPU, do you have any suggestions?:) 


I just had a look for a board with Z77 chipset, but the cheapest on I could find was around £80, you reckon I should save up a little more for that?

Thanks again!
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July 14, 2012 1:17:09 PM

the psu is a foundation component, everything relies on it, and when you upgrade your card it'll be better to not have to upgrade your psu at the same time, or to not do it and have it fail. Also good:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/500w-fsp-hexa-ppa5003200...

not sure you can oc with a H61 mobo, in fact it only lets you oc the built in GPU. Can you get a P67?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155

if h61 is all you can afford then the 2500k is wasted as you cannot OC, get the non-k in fact save more and get the 2320, at 140ish not 170ish.

This will leave you with 130-135, which will get you a 6870/7770.

Note that all of the compromises you have had to make means that it will cost you more in the long run as you'll have to replace both the cpu and mobo to OC to get more power if you ever need it. But the alternative is to go with a very unbalanced and weak machine, I have no problem with unbalanced machines, but not when they are weak too.

Oh and get a cheaper case, you'll look longingly at it a lot less than you'll be using the extra gpu power. Fractal design are nice.

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July 14, 2012 1:18:42 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
July 14, 2012 1:20:47 PM

mousemonkey, I appreciate the housekeeping, but it breaks the links so i can't find it to carry on helping, and if you move it whilst i replying the reply gets lost. Help us to help people. please.
July 14, 2012 1:46:30 PM

13thmonkey said:
the psu is a foundation component, everything relies on it, and when you upgrade your card it'll be better to not have to upgrade your psu at the same time, or to not do it and have it fail. Also good:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/500w-fsp-hexa-ppa5003200...

not sure you can oc with a H61 mobo, in fact it only lets you oc the built in GPU. Can you get a P67?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155

if h61 is all you can afford then the 2500k is wasted as you cannot OC, get the non-k in fact save more and get the 2320, at 140ish not 170ish.

This will leave you with 130-135, which will get you a 6870/7770.

Note that all of the compromises you have had to make means that it will cost you more in the long run as you'll have to replace both the cpu and mobo to OC to get more power if you ever need it. But the alternative is to go with a very unbalanced and weak machine, I have no problem with unbalanced machines, but not when they are weak too.

Oh and get a cheaper case, you'll look longingly at it a lot less than you'll be using the extra gpu power. Fractal design are nice.

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Okay I'm going to get that PSU you suggested.

As for the mobo, i'm just wondering if OC'ing is really worth it? How much will it improve my experience?

If i do choose to OC, will this one allow it?: Asus motherboard P8Z77-V LX LGA1155 ATX

+Yeah I will probably get a cheap case, the nzxt just looks so sexy:p 
July 14, 2012 1:51:54 PM

that one will be fine.

it more about buying as little as possible 'twice' OC'd will help make something that is not smooth become smooth.
July 14, 2012 2:44:10 PM

13thmonkey said:
that one will be fine.

it more about buying as little as possible 'twice' OC'd will help make something that is not smooth become smooth.


Okay here is the ammended list:

July 14, 2012 3:54:44 PM

if you can afford the 6870 and the 2500k then you are ok.
July 14, 2012 4:10:38 PM

13thmonkey said:
if you can afford the 6870 and the 2500k then you are ok.


alright so everything there is compatible? and also how well will that run games like bf3 on high graphics?
July 14, 2012 4:13:34 PM

you'll have enough CPU Power, (more than enough with the OC'd 2500k), so the link from anand gives a good idea of 6870 performance.
July 14, 2012 4:17:36 PM

13thmonkey said:
you'll have enough CPU Power, (more than enough with the OC'd 2500k), so the link from anand gives a good idea of 6870 performance.


ah, okay, thanks for all the help mate, I really appreciate it!
July 14, 2012 4:21:00 PM

enjoy, and plan to get the other 4Gb as soon as you can, unless its back in budget, but the 2500k + 4Gb is preferable to a slow CPU and 4GB as you can always add 4GB imo.

edit meant slower, not slow.
July 14, 2012 5:14:51 PM

13thmonkey said:
enjoy, and plan to get the other 4Gb as soon as you can, unless its back in budget, but the 2500k + 4Gb is preferable to a slow CPU and 4GB as you can always add 4GB imo.

edit meant slower, not slow.


Yep I will do! Or as you say i could add another, save more money and get it all at the same time, i'll see what happens.:) 
July 14, 2012 5:17:51 PM

the 3750K will be a tiny bit better, and don't forget cost of windows
July 15, 2012 9:44:03 PM

13thmonkey said:
the 3750K will be a tiny bit better, and don't forget cost of windows


Well, I've managed to persuade my grandad to lend me £200 towards it! that should cover most of the costs!:) 
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