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November 26, 2012 8:11:33 PM

Hi everyone,

Looking for suggestions.

My use: Mainly WoW, some streaming DL. hopefully some future upload streaming.

My current system:

I7-930 o.c. to 3.7ghz
Asus P6T SE mobo (no lsi compatibility)
Corsair H50 cooler.
12 gb gskill ram
Nvidia gtx 470 vc
Win 7 oem 64 bit os

My issues: In large raids of WPVP of 40 + with ventrillo, fighting 40+ opponents, HUGE lag.

Recent BSOD's in solo or parties up to 10 man. I never had these issues before.

In arena or RBG battles my max fps tends to be 40-60fps on high but not ultra settings. 1920x resolution

My desires:
I really don't want to build a complete new system.
I do want to upgrade my cpu at least.

Now where will I see the best value? Please correct me if I am wrong anywhere;
1. Can I simply change out cpu's to a 2500k with this mobo, doing nothing else? In the back of my mind it seems I wouldnt have the simpler overclocking options of the newer boards amiright?

2. I'd like the ability to OC simply with the newer stuff over the last cpl years. I'd like to be over 4.2ghz in the end.

3. Both the 2500k and the 3570k are priced the same.

4. Better deals seem to be easier to find for the LGA 1155's vs the LGA 2011 mobo's.

5. I want to be able to SLI, even if I can't afford it just yet.

6. With either chip, if I keep my SSD and HD's (raid 0) will I need to do anything beyond "parts swapping" to be up and running? I'm unfamiliar with replacing mobo/cpu, as my above system was my first build from scratch.

Thanks for all your guidance and suggestions!

*I know I'm a little late, was thinking about cyber Monday deals.

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November 26, 2012 11:09:00 PM

1) No. The 930 uses a 1366 socket. The 2500k and the 3570K both use the 1155 socket.

2) See answer for #3

3) Both can be overclocked without much hassle but the 3570k will be 5-10% faster than the 2500K at the same clock speed. If they are the same price, I recommend going with the 3570k

4) You will need an 1155 motherboard for either of those CPU's

5) Just look for well-spaced PCI-E slots when you get your new 1155 board. (Also get one with a decent VRM section for overclocking)

6)Your OS my require a new activation once it sees the new hardware.


And don't overclock with the stock cooler. Make sure you get some decent aftermarket cooling. (Cooler Master 212+ is ~$30 and works pretty well)


November 26, 2012 11:12:16 PM

Hey thanks for noticing the 1366 socket. I must have spaced it a long time ago or something. Was thinking it was 1155 socket.

Edit: Oh yea I know about cooling. Probably just go with a sealed water cooled unit like my corsair h50 but of more recent model.
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November 26, 2012 11:35:26 PM

Bigfishy said:
Hey thanks for noticing the 1366 socket. I must have spaced it a long time ago or something. Was thinking it was 1155 socket.

Edit: Oh yea I know about cooling. Probably just go with a sealed water cooled unit like my corsair h50 but of more recent model.


Sorry, missed the H50...
November 26, 2012 11:35:39 PM

2500k is a little bit slower but runs a lot cooler than the 3570K. If you plan to do some extreme OC with your rig, 2500k is the way to go.

3570K runs at a faster stock speed. However ivy bridges are notoriously known to idle at high temperatures. You certainly need some good CPU cooling for the 3570K.

If you only plan on doing some light overclocking, 3570K would offer you more speed and newer chip technology than the 2500K.

H50 would be fine for 3570K though,
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November 27, 2012 12:08:44 AM

Go 3570k - and decent heatpipe cooler, h50 is no better than good heatpipe (Infact my Zalman CNPS10Xtreme bashes even the h80 and h100 over the head)

3570 is around 10% faster clock for clock than 2500k...


3570 is not notorious for overheating, its notorious for muppets selecting too high a voltage to overclock.

Overclocking the 3570 is a backwards affair - set desired OC, set higher V, and drop V back until crash, then increase a little till stable.

Not had a single 3570 fail4.8Ghz on air with decent heattpipe cooler with Prime95 temps in mid 60's.

My 3570k - happily runs 4.8Ghz with 1.225v and sits at 62/3c prime 95 after a few hours stress.


Running it alongside the 2500k, it is faster than the 2500k clocked at 5.0Ghz (Which is pretty much top end anyway for 24/7 running.

Oh, and it uses less power as well!
December 8, 2012 7:43:17 AM

Thanks for the guidance everyone. I've rec'd an asrock z77 extreme4, and zallman cpns9500at cooler and new ram.

Next up is to order a 3570 chip.
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