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May 23, 2012 3:57:45 AM

Help!
I would like to upgrade my ancient and horrible Radion 9200se, to the best graphics card that is compatible with my system, without being bottle necked by the P4 3.2Ghz cpu. Also should I go with Agp 8x or PCI? Once again I'm looking for the best GPU under 50 bucks that won't get bottle necked by my 3.2 Ghz P4 Hyper Threading CPU and without a PSU change.


BUDGET RANGE: $0-50

USAGE:
*Light games like soldier front, crossfire, counter strike, runescape, WoW, to, COD 4 or 6?, assasins creed 1 and possibly 2? Other game recommendations are welcomed :D 

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY:
* Input voltage - 100-127 v ~ 6 A, 200-240 v ~ 3 A
* Max. output wattage - 250W
*GPU is a ATI Radeon 9200SE 8x AGP card up to 128MB DDR video memory

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS:
*The system is a HP Pavilion a475c
*3.2 Ghz Pentium 4 HT CPU
*1.5 Gig of ram
*250 GB HD
*MOBO is an ASUS P4SD-LA PES
*One AGP 8X/4x slot
*Three PCI slots


PARTS PREFERENCES:
*Which ever works best with my system..

More info about my pc can be found here http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00...

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a b U Graphics card
May 23, 2012 4:12:25 AM

Where are you buying? If the store have website, please put the link so we can check for available GPU for you.
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a b U Graphics card
May 23, 2012 4:24:46 AM

The only thing I could find is an Nvidia 5200, and 6200 in that price range, and they are about the same as what you have. If you are willing to go up to $62 there is the Radeon 3450, which would be a huge improvement, and also shouldnt be bottlenecked by the cpu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The only others available that I could find were a 4650 and 4670 but they are $90-$120
There just arent many choices unless you were to find a used one on ebay. In that case look for a radeon 9600-9700 or Gforce 5700 or maybe 6600
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a b U Graphics card
May 23, 2012 4:29:24 AM

Found another in the PCI category..this would be the best of any I listed. I dont think you would see much difference between agp and pci in this category of card. This one is $67, but is much better than the others .

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 23, 2012 5:11:32 AM

randomkid said:
Where are you buying? If the store have website, please put the link so we can check for available GPU for you.

Store doesn't matter, as long as it is compatible with the requirements listed, condition doesn't matter either..new or used..as long as it works I'm fine with it..
Thanks a lot
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May 23, 2012 5:34:49 AM

Any AGP card will be able to play high end games like COD4 (Guaranteeing lag even with low settings/Most of time unplayable)

Right now i have Sapphire AGP 4650 AGP x8 that bought for $100.04USD from Amazon (Price is high due the rarity and being discontinued)
Works good on Starcraft 2 Medium Shader Settings
Runescape HD Max Settings (After their RS FPS Update 20FPS)
Speicalforce/Soldierfront Okay FPS (Best maps to test on is Village/Sandosa/Art Center 16 Playerss) But i still believe the game still haves slight FPS Issues especially Soldierfront
AVA Max GPU Settings (16 players) Slight Lags to lag spikes (This game also has FPS issues)... .

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Geforce 520 the slot dont look like PCI it looks a Differnt PCI slot (PCI-E?)(Also you should check on the reviews to)

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Visontek HD 3450 is mostly good for watching video not good for games.. (Is your choice if u want buy that)
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Store always matter because it if doesn't you might end getting scammed.
As you know Newegg already trusted without rating/review checkup but their prices increase slightly overtime. Dont know if your real or trolling.
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a b U Graphics card
May 23, 2012 6:07:14 AM

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Any AGP card will be able to play high end games like COD4 (Guaranteeing lag even with low settings/Most of time unplayable)


Not quite sure what you are trying to say here..Do you mean no AGP card can play COD4, or did you actually mean any AGP card will work?

As for your recommendation or whatever for the 4650 for $100, the OP stated he wanted to spend about $50, so why even bring it up?
I also didnt say the 3450 would be good for games really. My goal was to find a card better than his 9200se, that was AGP, and the 3450 fits, and is one of the few choices available. Not sure about the slot on the 520, it was listed as PCI. Last of all, as far as reviews, the average is 4, with 72% of the reviews being either 4 or 5 out of 5..and that aint too bad
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a b U Graphics card
May 23, 2012 6:14:32 AM

Spend some cash and do a proper upgrade. AGP and PCI vid cards are 7-10 yr old technology. Sorry if that isnt what you want to hear.
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May 23, 2012 6:24:52 AM

Any $50 AGP card you want to buy you should

I told you is your choice. Not mines i just giving you a boost

Cause i almost have same system than you mines

Pentium 4 HT (2CPU) 3GHZ ~ 2992MHZ
PSU 550 Watt (ZPOWER Gaming Series)

But you want a better GPU like Radeon 3xxx

you need a PSU 400 to 600 Watt PSU
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a b U Graphics card
May 23, 2012 6:55:43 AM

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Any $50 AGP card you want to buy you should

he doesnt know what to buy, and some cards would not be an upgrade
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you need a PSU 400 to 600 Watt PSU


do you have any idea what you are talking about...cuz I dont
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May 23, 2012 6:55:56 AM

Thanks a lot GI_Jones and Valeman, GI I think I'm going to go with the GT520, I'm in luck!!! zotac is offering the GT520 for classic pci!! which confirms the link you sent to me.. GT520 is better then the cards mentioned above and cheaper..I guess its the best option? Sorry I'm not good with older hardware.. GI, to make it final will the GT520 work with a P4 (HT) 3.2 ghz CPU, and 1.5 GBs of ram, and most importantly a 250w psu? Please say ya, because I really don't want to buy another psu -__- lol.

@vrumor, I will be getting a maxed out 27'' iMAC (which will also rune windows :)  ). Just waiting for the new model to come out which will come out in June or July.. and will also be building my first "New tech" pc with an Ivy Bridge i7 and Most likely a GTX 670. I just can't wait any much longer and it's really pissing me off, also my little brother can game on this too (runescape,wow,crossfire), or parents can use it to watch HD content...
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a b U Graphics card
May 23, 2012 7:12:01 AM

yes, it will work with your system. Its not great, but its probably the best you can get. Dont forget to pick a best answer
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May 23, 2012 8:20:56 AM




250Watt PSU with your 250GB Harddrive already taking alot of power.
That card is fanless. I dont know if the strong GPU will use alot motherboard power.



But the reviews you need to read on newegg.


As many know PCI slot is very slower than AGP x8 just note if you do not know.
Do some compassion if you like. (Geforce GT 520 vs HD 3850 AGP or HD 4650 AGP (If you like)


Anyways you still need a better Powersupply than 250watts.
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a b U Graphics card
May 23, 2012 5:25:43 PM

valeman2012...you have no idea what you are talking about..
Wir3d...your processor wont be good enough to play some of the games you list. COD4 takes a dual core cpu. Just wanted you to know that a different graphics card still wont enable you to play very many newer games, because everything else is just too old
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May 23, 2012 6:38:27 PM

GI_JONES said:
valeman2012...you have no idea what you are talking about..
Wir3d...your processor wont be good enough to play some of the games you list. COD4 takes a dual core cpu. Just wanted you to know that a different graphics card still wont enable you to play very many newer games, because everything else is just too old



Yea you mostly got no idea that you try to break their computer by giving out careless reply just when did to mines. 48 years old of? giving advice out just break their computers.

Good thing i didnt listen the choice you gave me when i ask for help cause it was bad and you just probably wanted to break my computer.
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a b U Graphics card
May 23, 2012 7:04:11 PM

ROFLMAO! ok..whatever..I never gave you advise..but I will now..Go Away before I report you for violating the TOS on the forums. Your claim that I am trying to "break peoples computers" is insulting, and potentially damaging to my reputation :non: 
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May 23, 2012 7:43:29 PM

I going stop to prevent you from bashing other members.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
May 23, 2012 7:52:42 PM

valeman2012 said:
250Watt PSU with your 250GB Harddrive already taking alot of power.
That card is fanless. I dont know if the strong GPU will use alot motherboard power.



But the reviews you need to read on newegg.


As many know PCI slot is very slower than AGP x8 just note if you do not know.
Do some compassion if you like. (Geforce GT 520 vs HD 3850 AGP or HD 4650 AGP (If you like)


Anyways you still need a better Powersupply than 250watts.

How does a 250GB HDD use more or less power than a drive of a different capacity? How much power does a 250GB drive require? Do you even know?
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May 23, 2012 8:19:11 PM

Mousemonkey said:
How does a 250GB HDD use more or less power than a drive of a different capacity? How much power does a 250GB drive require? Do you even know?

So moderator are you going get involved or you going do something the problem going now.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
May 23, 2012 8:25:04 PM

valeman2012 said:
So moderator are you going get involved or you going do something the problem going now.

I'm wondering what the problem is, and your comment about the HDD taking a lot of power has me wondering if you know what you are talking about.
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a b U Graphics card
May 23, 2012 10:07:05 PM

Im guessing he has absolutely no clue. People come here, dont like what they are told and then get beligerent.
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May 24, 2012 2:58:19 AM

yea yea whatever anyways...

As i said you should buy Geforce 520 PCI is fit 100% good for your computer and your 250 GB Harddrive you dont have to worry about just buy graphics cards if u need it.
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a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2012 3:47:35 AM

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Geforce 520 the slot dont look like PCI it looks a Differnt PCI slot (PCI-E?)(Also you should check on the reviews to)


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But you want a better GPU like Radeon 3xxx


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you need a PSU 400 to 600 Watt PSU


Umm, actually, no you didnt say he should by the 520, and you didnt say it would work in his pc......I did, but whatever makes you feel good
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May 24, 2012 5:22:22 AM

GI_JONES said:
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Geforce 520 the slot dont look like PCI it looks a Differnt PCI slot (PCI-E?)(Also you should check on the reviews to)


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But you want a better GPU like Radeon 3xxx


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you need a PSU 400 to 600 Watt PSU


Umm, actually, no you didnt say he should by the 520, and you didnt say it would work in his pc......I did, but whatever makes you feel good

yea whatever Anyways....

Buy Geforce520 Zotac PCI is a very good card and perfect reviews. That Graphics card only have Heatsink is good because you have to worry about cheapfans.The Performance which can play Call of Duty Modern Warefare 3 (Latest Patch) On Medium - High Settings and you will not get bottlenecked / 100% Full Speed Hurry and buy before it runs out cause it take long to stock.
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a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2012 5:43:36 AM

valeman2012 said:
yea whatever Anyways....

Buy Geforce520 Zotac PCI is a very good card and perfect reviews. That Graphics card only have Heatsink is good because you have to worry about cheapfans.The Performance which can play Call of Duty Modern Warefare 3 (Latest Patch) On Medium - High Settings and you will not get bottlenecked / 100% Full Speed Hurry and buy before it runs out cause it take long to stock.


Valeman, you have no idea what you are talking about. Quit giving this guy bad advise, and telling him things that arent true. He will NOT be able to play Modern Warfare 3, at any settings because he has a single core processor, and the game requires at least a dual core processor..Look it up. And you have no idea how long that card will be in stock, so dont tell him he has to hurry or they will run out.
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May 24, 2012 6:09:08 AM

@valeman I used a psu calculator and I should be ok...a hard drive doesn't even come close to a GPU or CPU when it comes to power consumption lol.. I'm not worried about that.. and ya I'm considering agp too.. PCI blows..and I need the extra bandwidth that comes with agp.. Maybe an HD3850?


@GI..ya I know COD 4 wouldn't run well on my cpu :(  What about WoW, Runescape, Combat arms, and Soldier Front at high levels? Also I would like to be able to view 1080p hd videos on youtube...

You guys how would a Geforce GT 520 PCI compare to a Radeon HD3850 or other AGP card? I heard the Radeon HD3850 is the most powerful agp card?

So what should I go for ? a GT 520 (a pretty good gpu, but not good on the PCI platform) or an AGP card?
And if AGP what should I go for besides an HD 3850(they're pretty rare and expensive)?

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a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2012 6:25:29 AM

Well, if you arent going to limit yourself to the $50-$60 dollar range then how about an HD 4670 for $120. I dont think its a good idea though.Both the 3850 and 4670 will be severely bottlenecked by your cpu, so thats a waste of money. I did find an HD3450 AGP card on Amazon : http://www.amazon.com/VisionTek-Radeon-HD3450-Graphics-...

At $65.00 I think this is the one to go with. It's a HUGE upgrade from what you have
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May 24, 2012 7:35:39 AM

GI_JONES said:
Well, if you arent going to limit yourself to the $50-$60 dollar range then how about an HD 4670 for $120. I dont think its a good idea though.Both the 3850 and 4670 will be severely bottlenecked by your cpu, so thats a waste of money. I did find an HD3450 AGP card on Amazon : http://www.amazon.com/VisionTek-Radeon-HD3450-Graphics-...

At $65.00 I think this is the one to go with. It's a HUGE upgrade from what you have


Alright cool :)  what about a slight upgrade? between the HD3450 you sent and the 3850?? What about a 3650?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-100258L-HD-3650-512MB-...

found this one...this would give better performance than the 3450 w/o bottle necking like the 3850 correct?
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May 24, 2012 9:02:00 AM

I wouldn't buy from ebay because i bought few items from there most of the time it gives me the wrong item and end up that user dont even have it. Pain to get the money back to.

Is also refurbished(repaired) so if you want to go for it. Get it.

My suggestion is Amazon. (Much Reliable) and cause 3850 AGP is very rare you wont find a good one on amazon. (Last time i check which was end of april 2012 it had a 3850 refurbished.) I dont know if is still there. (It will be more than 50$)

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3850 AGP is faster than my Shappire 4650 AGP and HIS 4650 AGP / HIS 4670 AGP) I did not go for 3850 because all i see is repaired HD 3850 AGP. (No Used or New Cards)
The Visontek 3450 AGP is for mostly movies/videos as said on the reviews (NOT Good for games might even lag Soldierfront 16players) / Another AGP Powercolor 3450 AGP dont bother buying that it get high fast and it burns out) But if your willing buy Radeon 3xxx you will have to upgrade your Power Supply.

Reason i went for Shappire 4650 AGP x8 because is been awarded few times by other company and good stable perfromance .
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a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2012 9:52:13 PM

you are likely to have psu issues with a more powerful card
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May 24, 2012 10:32:03 PM

Yup at first it worked out on the calculator http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine
then I put "Capacitor Aging" to the max (50%) since it's a very old psu... then boom! my requirements jumped from 249 watts to 300 watts, so now I'm going to have to buy a new PSU as well.. found a few.. but if you guys can make some recommendations.. I'm not too worried about it lasting a long time.. 6 months min would be ok Since I will be getting a 27'' iMac and build a new i7 rig..

found a few..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... this one has pretty good reviews but the top fan would be blocked by my case?? can i flip it upside down?

this ones pretty good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

another good one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

so which one should I get? Max I'm going to pay is 30 bucks..
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May 25, 2012 7:15:40 PM

Best answer selected by Wir3d.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
May 25, 2012 7:22:14 PM

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