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Wanting to build a new dekstop

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July 16, 2012 7:12:03 PM

Hello everyone. After dealing with a weak laptop for a while now, I am looking to build a new desktop and I would like some opinions. First, I would like to give some background info on what it needs to be able to do.

System Intents (In order of importance):
- Light to Medium AutoCAD and Autodesk Inventor Work
- Gaming (specifically:) 
- Skyrim, Civilization 5, Tropico 4, LA Noire, Batman Arkham City, GTA4 EFLC, Left 4 Dead, Left 4 Dead 2, Age of Empires III, and MS Flight Simulator X. Also need it to be able to handle most games over the next 2-3 years(ish) mostly in the simulation and RPG categories with some FPS mixed in.
- MS Office work
- Web browsing and other basics
- I want to overclock it, but the OC will need to be very stable. The system needs to last me a good 5-6 years (I know this much longer than the intended life of a computer, but I am in college and simply will not have the money to upgrade after 3 years), hence the 3TB hard drive in my prospective build.

System Budget: $1600-1800 with shipping (monitor, keyboard (i have a mouse), and speakers must be included)

Here is what I have it configured like currently, please let me know if there are places I can save or use a more reliable brand (please note that all parts are from newegg unless otherwise noted):
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 ~ $109.98
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast TX650M Semi Modular 650W ~ $115.98
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA1155 ATX Mobo ~ $174.99
Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K Quad Core ~ $229.99
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz RAM ~ $46.99
SSD: OCZ Agility 3 120GB SATA III SSD as boot drive ~ $99.99
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200rpm 3.5" SATA 6.0Gb/s ~ $159.99
ODD: Samsung SH-222 DVD Burner ~ $18.98
Video Card: Powercolor Radeon HD7850 2GB OC'd (1GHz) Card ~ $267.55
Wireless Network Card: Asus PCI-Express 300Mbps ~ $27.99
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" LED Monitor ~ $129.99
Keyboard: Microsoft Wireless Keyboard Standard 2000 ~ $26.99
Speakers: Logitech Z313 2.1 Speaker System ~ $43.99
Cooling Fans: (2) Prolimatech PRO-RV12LED 120mm Red LED Case Fan (for front) ~ $41.97
(1) Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition CO-9050009-WW 140mm Case Fan (for side GPU vent) ~ $24.00
Water Cooler: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14182/ex-wat-181/XSPC... ~ $184.98
Thermal Paste: Arctic Cooling MX-4 ~ $9.99

System Total: $1822.80

I know it is a little over what I wanted to spend, but what do you guys think? Especially with the custom water cooling loop kit. Thanks in advance.

EDIT: There are actually 3 Prolimatech fans in that price, 2 front 1 rear. Also, my biggest concern with that water cooling kit is the thickness of the radiator. Does anyone have a Phantom 410 case and verify how much room there is above the motherboard for a radiator, I know I can mount the fans outside the case, but the radiator is still thick.

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July 16, 2012 7:37:43 PM

You should forget that water cooling. With this setup, you are not going to need it. You would be much better off taking that money and putting it into a better GPU.

You could get a gtx670 instead of that watercooling system and still have some money left over!
July 16, 2012 7:46:17 PM

Go with at least 16GB of memory - 32GB if you want headroom and at least a 240GB SSD boot drive, that way most of your progs will have the benefit of loading quicker

and yeah, you don't need the water cooling
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July 16, 2012 7:55:28 PM

Ok, would I be better off with an air cooler then like a Noctua DH14 (I think is what it is called) or NZXT Havik 120? Switching to an NZXT Havik 140 and Gigabyte GTX 670 card and the total comes to $1,852.44 ($1,822.44 after rebates). Now, will I really need all the power of a GTX 670 or could I get away with using something like a Radeon 7870? With a 7870 the price tag would be $1767.44 ($1707.44 after rebates).
July 16, 2012 8:11:05 PM

Get a 570 GTX or higher, I have the GTX 570 and it is overkill and has almost too much power. You can run every game I've every heard of on the highest settings easily. Other than that you don't need a 3tb hard drive or an SSD for gaming, unlesws of course this a showoff PC. :) 
July 16, 2012 8:26:15 PM

That's exactly what's needed for "future-proof"
July 16, 2012 8:29:46 PM

Another question I have been pondering, is the 3570K really worth it? I have read that it does not overclock as well as the 2500K which is only $10 cheaper. I would want to keep the Z77 motherboard regardless that way if I would get some extra money at some point I would have an upgrade path. What do you guys think? 2500K or 3570K?
July 16, 2012 8:36:18 PM

2500 over the 2500K, same exact everything except video, that u dont need because of the video card, and cheaper
July 16, 2012 8:41:13 PM

Ok, I reconfigured it to 16GB of 1600MHz RAM, got rid of the 3 prolimatech fans (the case comes with fans, i was just gonna upgrade them), this video card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or would you highly recommend the 670? moved up to an OCZ Agility 3 240GB SSD, and threw in an NZXT Havik 140 cooler. Altogether theses changes brought the total to $1755.47 after rebates.
July 16, 2012 8:42:00 PM

The 2500 isn't overclockable though and I want to be able to overclock.
July 16, 2012 8:59:10 PM

dover_68 said:
The 2500 isn't overclockable though and I want to be able to overclock.


Since when isn't it???

It's not "Fully Unlocked" - but you can overclock it
July 16, 2012 9:26:40 PM

I believe (I may be wrong) you can only increase the locked sandy bridges a max of 400MHz past the turbo max, which on one core puts you at 4.2GHz if you run all 4 cores you're at a max of 3.7GHz and I believe the BCLK on the locked sandybridges isn't changeable ( I may be wrong again though)
July 16, 2012 9:35:15 PM

My above reply actually only applies to Sandy Bridge-E Procs, because they have more wiggle room in the BCLK. From what I'm seeing the regular Sandy Bridges can only be pushed ~ $105MHz past the stock BCLK which really isn't worth it.
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