Looking to upgrade from x2 5870s

gorgot

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I have two 5870s that I crossfire (although I usually have to turn it off because so many games I play don't support it and/or play worse), a 955 x4 Phenom BE, a 750w PSU, and a regular old monitor (so I game with Vsync).

I've had this setup for two years and I'm thinking it might be time to upgrade. It plays everything I want to play but a lot of games (BF3, Crysis 2, even Diablo 3) struggle at times. Maybe I'm spoiled (as gamers sometimes are) but anything below my beloved butter-smooth 60fps (w./vsync) and I just get sad. So I'm considering an upgrade.

I don't have AMD brand loyalty either, so I'm considering going green.

My budget is around 3-400, maybe higher if I can get a decent price for my 2 5870s.

Also I play a LOT of WoW and I'll be playing Guild Wars 2 -- two very CPU dependent games from what I understand -- so is it time for a CPU upgrade as well? Would a CPU upgrade prevent me from needing a GPU upgrade? I'm still a noob at this stuff, this was my first build ever, so go easy on me.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Well you could probably use an overhaul, becasue usually when someone updates the CPU and GPU, they end up building a new one completely. But you could only update the GPU and not update anything else.

If you update the CPU, you will still need a new GPU to play games like BF3.

If the budget for your GPU is 300-400, I would highly suggest the GTX 670 which can play anything you throw at it with ease.
 

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That's the exact card I'm looking at right now. How significant of a performance leap should I expect? Rock solid 60fps @ 1080 on, say, the next year's worth of games?
 

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I have one more question. Since I play a lot of CPU dependent games (WoW), is the 955 going to hold me back?

In Mist of Pandaria (not out yet, but in beta) will I not see any FPS increase because of the older CPU? Right now I can only get about 30 fps on ultra in that beta, and my goal is 60. I'd hate to pay 400 for a new card and not see an improvement.

I can spend 400 on the card because I can sell my 5870s. I doubt I could sell my CPU and Mobo to replace them. (I only have AM3 socket)...
 

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I know it's not encouraged to bump threads, but I'm still looking for an answer to my other question and I'd rather not start another thread. I've been doing a lot of research on bottlenecks and I can't tell if if the GTX 670 will be my one-stop solution.

As I said, all I want to achieve is rock-solid ultra settings 60fps on the games I play, which include Mists of Pandaria and Guild Wars 2, both of which are around 20-40fps on ultra with my current setup of 2 5870s and a stock 3.2 955.

I am not comfortable with overclocking as my CPU seems to run a little hot as it is at stock.

This is all on a single 60hz monitor, 1080p.

Thanks in advance.
 

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Gorgot, If you are going to be playing online mmo's or the multiplayers of really any games, I would probably suggest a new cpu. At least an intel quad-core if you want to play games going into the future. The reason I suggest Intel and not AMD is because AMD uses modules but calls them cores. So really an AMD fx-8150 has 8 modules, but they really act like 4 cores. If you plan on getting a new cpu, I would buy an ivy bridge i5-3570k with an ASRock Extreme4 mobo. Cheap (ish) and will provide enough CPU performance for years.
 

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Off-topic, but I think that if AMD advertised the FX 8150 as a quad-core with advanced hyperthreading, and so on and so forth, BD wouldn't have been that big of a disappointment. I don't see a problem with the 5870's. They're good GPU's. I think it's the CPU. Get the 3570K and Extreme 4. You'll def. notice an improvement.