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Rate my 300-350$ Gaming Build?

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: Around this week

Budget Range: 300 is what I want to spend, if really necessary, I'll spend a little more but no more than 350, this doesn't mean I'm asking for a 350$ build though.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Games, surfing net

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: Building new computer from scratch

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon(300$ to spend on here) Ebay or site that accepts paypal(50 bucks on here) site doesn't really matter, just whatever is cheaper.

Location: USA

Parts Preferences: AMD but whatver is cheaper

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Your Monitor Resolution: idk yet

Additional Comments: I made a thread about this before but then I needed more help because I changed a lot of my build. I already have a build, tell me if it's good or not and what I should change and what kind of games it could play. I plan on using this computer for now then crossfire with a new graphics card later when I get more money.

Processor and Graphics card: AMD A8-3870K APU: 85$
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006J420UE/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A3AUW3C0RAHG0Z

DVD Drive: 14$
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006B7R9PU/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Case w/ power supply: 60$
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003O2KEPC/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&smid=AZAKCH4NO8MQD

8GB Ram: 39$
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DHNAGM/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Motherboard: ASRock MB-A75MHVS 65$

HDD: 31$
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004FWF0YU/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

This totals up to about 300$, I was wondering if this motherboard could crossfire. Do you think this'll make a good gaming pc. I plan on getting a dedicated graphics card later to crossfire, what graphics card should I plan to get later?

What kind of games would this be able to run?
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  1. it cant crossfire, but it can hybrid crossfire with a 6450, 6570, or a 6670 card. it basically connects the onboard GPU and the dedicated into one unit. gives you good gameplay but i wouldnt recommnd the A8 series just because trnity is coming out and that these chips are really low end. the trinity chips are much much better
  2. TheBigTroll said:
    it cant crossfire, but it can hybrid crossfire with a 6450, 6570, or a 6670 card. it basically connects the onboard GPU and the dedicated into one unit. gives you good gameplay but i wouldnt recommnd the A8 series just because trnity is coming out and that these chips are really low end. the trinity chips are much much better

    So the trinity chips are better? How much better? And it hasn't come out yet? How much money would it cost, I can't wait for the trinity chips to come out though, also, the price of that apu is such a steal! Only 85$ for it.

    Also what's a hybrid crossfire? What's a motherboard that is compatible with this apu and can crossfire?
  3. I recommend that you drop the case with the PS for $6x.xx and get them separately...you will get a better quality PS that way. For about $42, you can get a Corsair CX500V2 PS. XFX Core Edition 450 watt Pro Series is around $45.

    Look for a $25-$30 mid tower case....Coolmaster is known to make bang for the buck tower cases....look for the budget "Elite" series.

    With the A8-38xx, you can asymmetric crossfire with it's integrated 6550D and a dedicated 6450/6570/6670...when combined (6670)...the performance becomes 6690D2 (close to 6770's performance in real world situations). 6670 is the max card for this type of crossfiring. Anything faster, you would be better off just running off that card.

    Dave
  4. DavidY said:
    I recommend that you drop the case with the PS for $6x.xx and get them separately...you will get a better quality PS that way. For about $42, you can get a Corsair CX500V2 PS. XFX Core Edition 450 watt Pro Series is around $45.

    Look for a $25-$30 mid tower case....Coolmaster is known to make bang for the buck tower cases....look for the budget "Elite" series.

    With the A8-38xx, you can asymmetric crossfire with it's integrated 6550D and a dedicated 6450/6570/6670...when combined (6670)...the performance becomes 6690D2 (close to 6770's performance in real world situations). 6670 is the max card for this type of crossfiring. Anything faster, you would be better off just running off that card.

    Dave

    Thanks! Do you think a 40$ ps is really necessary? I'm trying to build a budget pc and I didn't want to spend too much on other stuff like case and ps, I wanted to spend more money on the cpu and important stuff. What's the most cheapest power supply that'll work with this pc? Thanks for the graphics card recomendation. What kind of games would this pc run right now and what kind of games if I crossfire the 6670 graphics card?
  5. romeodakins said:
    So the trinity chips are better? How much better? And it hasn't come out yet? How much money would it cost, I can't wait for the trinity chips to come out though, also, the price of that apu is such a steal! Only 85$ for it.

    Also what's a hybrid crossfire? What's a motherboard that is compatible with this apu and can crossfire?



    we currently have no idea how much they cost but they are much much better since they will be using the piledriver architecture which is a adancement of bulldozer. if you need the PC now, go a head and get it. if not, id wait
  6. Best answer
    let me try. you can go low low low with that APU, even with a 6670, you won't need more than a 350W PSU.

    I'm not seeing the $85 APU, so I went with Newegg's $108

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD A8-3870K 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($108.00 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock A75M-HVS Micro ATX FM1 Motherboard ($69.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Pareema 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($21.99 @ Newegg)
    Hard Drive: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Rosewill R101-P-BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($25.50 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Antec 350W ATX12V Power Supply ($27.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $330.44
    (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
  7. the trinity APUs will use a different socket called Fm2. it will not be compatable with current apu motherboards.


    hybrid crossfire right now is basically crossfire with the onboard GPU and either a 6450, 6570, or 6670 graphics card that you plug it. you cannot hybrid crossfire anything else
  8. Cheap PS here....personally, I would not go with less than 400 watt if it's a quality unit (80 Plus certified or better).

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6013/350450w-roundup-11-cheap-psus/

    A8-38xx's 6550D crossfired with 6670 will perform better than a 6670, but less than 6770....look at the benchmarks for both. If you keep the monitor's rez smaller than 1080p, these mid range cards will have faster fps. The following link compares various cards at different rezs for Diablo 3 at highest details, AA enabled...for slower cards like 6670, prefer 1280x1024 or maybe 1680x1050.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/diablo-iii-performance-benchmark,3195-5.html

    Dave
  9. how about this power supply http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013FIO04/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A30YNTVQ04HG16
    and then I get this case
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003O8J11E/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
    with 10$ mail in rebate? So with these 2 changes added to my build up above, how well would this pc play? What games would it be able to play? And how well if I crossfire?
  10. trinity will be faster...but also may not be out in desktop until december
  11. romeodakins said:
    how about this power supply http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013FIO04/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A30YNTVQ04HG16
    and then I get this case
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003O8J11E/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
    with 10$ mail in rebate? So with these 2 changes added to my build up above, how well would this pc play? What games would it be able to play? And how well if I crossfire?
    ne

    case is fine. PSu is iffy (stick with Antec, Corair, XFX, and Seasonic)

    the 6550D will play most games at low to medium settings at 1600x900 / 1650x1080 at 30-45 fps
  12. ScrewySqrl said:
    trinity will be faster...but also may not be out in desktop until december

    How much will trinity cost? I don't think I can wait till december. And what if I set the resolution to 1080x1200 instead, will it run games like dirt 3 in medium-high?
  13. romeodakins said:
    How much will trinity cost? I don't think I can wait till december. And what if I set the resolution to 1080x1200 instead, will it run games like dirt 3 in medium-high?


    You must mean 1980x1200? The more rez, the better/faster/$$$ graphics you will need to keep the fps up to a smooth, consistent manner (to most enthusiasts...60+ fps).

    Personally, I wouldn't trust that Coolmax PS.....I have seen tests/reviews where Coolmax have over rated their PS by 100+ watts. Did you check out any of those 11 cheap PS? Besides some of those ones, the Corsair CX/Builder's series is the cheapest PS I would put in my system (if I was desperate).

    Dave
  14. DavidY said:
    You must mean 1980x1200? The more rez, the better/faster/$$$ graphics you will need to keep the fps up to a smooth, consistent manner (to most enthusiasts...60+ fps).

    Personally, I wouldn't trust that Coolmax PS.....I have seen tests/reviews where Coolmax have over rated their PS by 100+ watts. Did you check out any of those 11 cheap PS? Besides some of those ones, the Corsair CX/Builder's series is the cheapest PS I would put in my system (if I was desperate).

    Dave

    I actually ment a lower resolution, I forgot the numbers but it was like 1000x800 or something. And to be honest, I was too lazy to go through all 11 pages of power supplies :P I'm looking through them right now.
  15. 1024x768? Yeah it will run most games at high settings.
  16. DavidY said:
    You must mean 1980x1200? The more rez, the better/faster/$$$ graphics you will need to keep the fps up to a smooth, consistent manner (to most enthusiasts...60+ fps).

    Personally, I wouldn't trust that Coolmax PS.....I have seen tests/reviews where Coolmax have over rated their PS by 100+ watts. Did you check out any of those 11 cheap PS? Besides some of those ones, the Corsair CX/Builder's series is the cheapest PS I would put in my system (if I was desperate).

    Dave

    I'm looking through the list and most of the power supplies aren't on amazon and the ones that are are like 50 bucks. Are there any cheap power supplies that are around 30 bucks?
  17. zooted said:
    1024x768? Yeah it will run most games at high settings.

    REALLY??? I'm planning to play online games like Vindictus or Continent of the Ninth. I might play dirt 3 or skyrim or something later. My main computer is a laptop right now and I'm used to playing on lowest graphics at like 400x800 res so 1024x768 with high graphics would be awesome!
  18. Antec BP350: $29.99
    ANtec EarthWatts 380W: $37.99
    Corsair CX 430W: $44.99
  19. romeodakins said:
    I'm looking through the list and most of the power supplies aren't on amazon and the ones that are are like 50 bucks. Are there any cheap power supplies that are around 30 bucks?


    This 400 watt PS is an Antec Neo Eco 400 (Seasonic) and is 80 Plus Certified. $30 at Newegg.com

    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-neoeco400c

    Dave
  20. thats after a rebate....good luck on the rebate lotto
  21. How much watts is necessary for my system? Is 350watts too low? I'm planning on doing that hybrid crossfire with the best graphics card thats able to hybrid crossfire. Would I need a higher watt power supply once I upgrade with a new graphics card?
  22. What do you guys think about this power supply?
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004IZN3K2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A2L77EE7U53NWQ

    also is this ram http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DHNAGM/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER compatible with the asrock motherboard I chose. The ram says it's only compatible with PC3-10600 (1333 MHz) systems
  23. Antec VP-350 is not 80 Plus certified....made by Delta. Personally, I wouldn't buy it if there are other choices.

    If your mobo is this...the RAM is good: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-a75mhvs

    eXtreme power supply calculator doesn't list the A8-3870K (only the A8-3850)....after making the necessary inputs and assumptions, I get a recommended power supply of 300 watts. Crossfiring between APU and 6670 was not an option. As a result, I would still get a MIN 400 watt PS...just cover the future HD 6670. Usually, there is a bit of over rating of the power supply by most brands....Corsair CX430V2 is advertised as a 430 watt...based on a 28 amp load capacity, it works out to only 336 watts.

    The only cheaper 400+ watt PS that I can see is the 450 watt XFX Core Edition 450 Pro Series for $45 after $10 MIR. 34 amps or 408 watts.
  24. the xfx unit is made by seasonic so no going wrong.
  25. DavidY said:
    Antec VP-350 is not 80 Plus certified....made by Delta. Personally, I wouldn't buy it if there are other choices.

    If your mobo is this...the RAM is good: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-a75mhvs

    eXtreme power supply calculator doesn't list the A8-3870K (only the A8-3850)....after making the necessary inputs and assumptions, I get a recommended power supply of 300 watts. Crossfiring between APU and 6670 was not an option. As a result, I would still get a MIN 400 watt PS...just cover the future HD 6670. Usually, there is a bit of over rating of the power supply by most brands....Corsair CX430V2 is advertised as a 430 watt...based on a 28 amp load capacity, it works out to only 336 watts.

    The only cheaper 400+ watt PS that I can see is the 450 watt XFX Core Edition 450 Pro Series for $45 after $10 MIR. 34 amps or 408 watts.

    I don't think I can afford a power supply 50 bucks, on amazon that ps is 50$
    at above ScrewySqrl said antec brand was good brand. Also what if I get this 500w coolmax power supply http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013FIO04/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A30YNTVQ04HG16 and since you said they're overrated by 100watts theres still 400watts left.

    Here's another ps, pretty good reviews, how about this one?
    http://www.amazon.com/Rocketfish-RF-500WPS2-500-Watt-Power-Supply/dp/B004H1S6PE/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1342567808&sr=8-5&keywords=500watt+power+supply

    found another
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H9KRY8/sr=8-8/qid=1342567808/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1342567808&seller=&sr=8-8
    50 bucks for normal but 30 bucks like new used.
  26. no thanks on the coolmax. never heard of it=usually low quality

    if the rocketfish power supply is made by superflower id get it
  27. TheBigTroll said:
    no thanks on the coolmax. never heard of it=usually low quality

    if the rocketfish power supply is made by superflower id get it

    How do I find out who made it? And is the rocketfish compatible with my motherboard?
  28. power supplies are standard across the industry. unless its a OEM model, it will work
  29. dude stop looking around for cheapo psu s. cheap psu=good explosion or a system failure. pick up a xfx 450w or a seasonic m12II 520w if you dont want to be burned in the future
  30. What's wrong with that 400 watt Antec Neo Eco 400 (Seasonic) for $29 after MIR? Isn't Newegg a legit company? I have never bought anything from Newegg.ca.

    Dave
  31. TheBigTroll said:
    dude stop looking around for cheapo psu s. cheap psu=good explosion or a system failure. pick up a xfx 450w or a seasonic m12II 520w if you dont want to be burned in the future

    I don't have enough for a psu thats 50 bucks. I'm only 15, I don't have a job or anything, I have 350 bucks which is my life savings.

    I think I'll either get this one
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004IZN3K2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&smid=A2L77EE7U53NWQ

    or the rocketfish, the reviews are very good.
  32. DavidY said:
    What's wrong with that 400 watt Antec Neo Eco 400 (Seasonic) for $29 after MIR? Isn't Newegg a legit company? I have never bought anything from Newegg.ca.

    Dave

    You mean this?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029
    I doesn't have mir but it has the 20 dollar promo code making the ps 30 bucks.
  33. romeodakins said:
    You mean this?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029
    I doesn't have mir but it has the 20 dollar promo code making the ps 30 bucks.


    Ok. Get it. It's your best bet at $30....better hurry...promo code ends tonight.

    Dave
  34. that unit seems legit. get it


    why the hell are there so many 14 and 15 year olds loitering around the site. im one myself.
  35. Thanks for the help guys, I have one more question, I'm gonna be using this case
    http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001772
    Do I need to buy more fans? This case only comes with 1 fan on the back.

    Btw, which case is the best in quality and best looking?

    Thermaltake Commander MS-I(which color)
    http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Commander-VN400A1W2N-Tower-Black/dp/B005F770AQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1342637331&sr=8-3&keywords=thermaltake+commander+ms-i

    http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Commander-Edition-VN400A1W2N-B-Tower/dp/B007BDJ4NI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1342637331&sr=8-2&keywords=thermaltake+commander+ms-i

    http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Commander-Edition-VN40006W2N-Tower/dp/B007BDJ58M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342637331&sr=8-1&keywords=thermaltake+commander+ms-i

    Or

    Raidmax Case ATX-248NWB
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006L0MJU2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

    Or

    Thermaltake V3 Black AMD Edition
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007BDJ5SM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

    Or recommend a different case for 50 bucks or less on amazon.

    I'm just looking for the best looking case but the case also has to be good quality and has enough space for the components.
  36. I'm kinda crazy, but I like my Rosewill 102 case. Cases are very subjective -- pick one you like, that you can afford, and run with it.

    You probly don't need to max out your fans, but I'd buy additional fans if needed to be sure you have a 120mm intake fan up front, and a 120mm exhaust fan in the back.
  37. Since you are a budget, look at the Cooler Master Elite series, Rosewill or Zalman...typically start in the $30-$40 range. You would be better off getting a cheaper, but decent build quality like one of these and spend the difference on a better quality power supply. Without a quality PS, your computer won't run at all...but will still look pretty. I'm more of a function first, looks second kinda guy (for computers at least).

    Dave
  38. rosewell challenger from what i heard was a great case
  39. the Rosewill R101 is on sale for $25.50 shipped right now, its micro atx only, and a bit tight -- 9.1" video cards max -- but there are plenty of good cards, right up to the 7850, that will fit there. its solid, all metal construction (0.8mm steel), and simple. but the 120mm fan is 1/3 of the interior height of the case, meaning its great for cooling. add a single 120mm blue or red LED fan in front, and you have an understated case. Its wide enough to take 120mm heat inks like the Hyper 212 as well.
  40. ScrewySqrl said:
    the Rosewill R101 is on sale for $25.50 shipped right now, its micro atx only, and a bit tight -- 9.1" video cards max -- but there are plenty of good cards, right up to the 7850, that will fit there. its solid, all metal construction (0.8mm steel), and simple. but the 120mm fan is 1/3 of the interior height of the case, meaning its great for cooling. add a single 120mm blue or red LED fan in front, and you have an understated case. Its wide enough to take 120mm heat inks like the Hyper 212 as well.

    Thanks but I don't really like that case, it looks ugly :P I like the cases I picked, which one do you think is best from the ones I picked? When I finished my build, I had a few extra dollars, I might as well use it on the case.
  41. ScrewySqrl said:

    The Xion case looks pretty cool! Did you recommend it because of how it looks or was it because of how much space it has inside and what fans fit and stuff like that?

    Also, which thermaltake were you talking about? The V3 or the commander? If commander, which color?

    Here's another nice case with good reviews, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002OEBILK/sr=8-33/qid=1342679980/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1342679980&seller=&sr=8-33 This or thermaltake commander or thermaltake v3?
  42. generally I was going for similar looks to your other cases. the NZXT case is ok..but comes wth no fans ;)

    I'd pick the commander of those three, of whichever color you like
  43. ScrewySqrl said:
    generally I was going for similar looks to your other cases. the NZXT case is ok..but comes wth no fans ;)

    I'd pick the commander of those three, of whichever color you like

    Thanks! How much fans are recommended? The commander comes with only 1 rear fan.
  44. at least one fan in the front as an intake. but up to the maximum as your budget allows
  45. ScrewySqrl said:
    at least one fan in the front as an intake. but up to the maximum as your budget allows

    Ok so the 1 fan the commander comes with is good enough. Also, you said the nzxt case comes with no fans
    http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Series-interior-chassis-M59-001BK/product-reviews/B002OEBILK/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#RJV1Z9DVWWYGZ

    The first review says it comes with 2 fans.
  46. You want one intake in the front, one exhaust in the back.

    After that, add them as you see fit
  47. ScrewySqrl said:
    You want one intake in the front, one exhaust in the back.

    After that, add them as you see fit

    Do I need the front fan? The nzxt case comes with fan on back and side fan, what if I take out the side fan and put it on the front?
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