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July 17, 2012 6:06:33 PM

Hey everyone,

I'm looking to build my first computer for gaming, watching movies, photoshop and video editing, and office/professional use. My budget is about $800 (can go a bit higher).

First time I've ever looked into building a PC...used Mac for most of my life and although I enjoy the stability, I find it very limiting to what you can do (especially for gaming and whatnot).

People say that building a PC is relatively simple, but is it easy to mess up and destroy parts by mistake? I've never taken apart or put together any components of a computer before.

Approximate Purchase Date: Hopefully in 3-4 weeks, if not next by the end of next month

Budget Range: $800

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Watching Movies, Office use, Video and Photo Editing

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: Yes but I may be able to get a discounted price from my school.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.ca, NCIX.ca, Canada Computers, Tiger Direct Canada

Location: Canada

Parts Preferences: Browsing the forums and looking at reviews, I'm leaning towards Intel over AMD

Overclocking: Maybe (I don't really know how to)

SLI or Crossfire: Not sure...is there a big difference between the two?

Your Monitor Resolution: Probably 1024x768

Additional Comments: This may be a dumb question but would I have to install a network card or adapter to use Wi Fi?

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Used a Mac for most of my life, want to switch over to PC


I took put together a list of items but I'd love your feedback of what I could to do improve my system

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/cn4D

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor $199.99 @ Memory Express

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $19.99 @ Newegg Canada

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-H61MA-D3V $79.99 @ Newegg Canada

Memory: Mushkin 996770 $41.99 @ Newegg Canada

Hard Drive: Samsung HD103SJ $99.99 @ Newegg Canada

Video Card: Sapphire 100326DDR3L $81.84 @ TigerDirect Canada

Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion $74.99 @ Newegg Canada

Power Supply: Corsair VX550 $64.99 @ NCIX

Optical Drive: Sony AD-7260S-0B DVD/CD Writer $19.88 @ Canada Computers

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) $105.92 @ TigerDirect Canada

Keyboard: N/A

Mouse: N/A

~ Also if I need to install a Wifi or network adapter card, how would I go around doing that?

Total: $786.67

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I noticed on some websites like TigerDirect and Newegg.ca had DIY combos or builds for pretty cheap prices. What are your thoughts about that?

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1769089&Sku=SYX-7010

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.956696

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.956666


Thanks again for all your help!

Jeremy

a b 4 Gaming
July 17, 2012 6:47:39 PM

Here, try this...
http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/cnjc

I upped the graphics for you a bit. You won't need the aftermarket cooler since your mobo and cpu are going to be very limited with overclocking ability. And I switched out you HDD for a cheaper and better one. I also changed your RAM so that it's a bit faster and a more reliable brand. Everything else looks fine.

If you want to install a wifi adapter, you'll need to install it in one of the lower pci slots. Just make sure your gpu is put in the pci express slot. It needs more bandwidth than the wifi adapter.

And since you asked, all SLI and Crossfire is...it gives you the ability to bridge two, three, or four GPUs and increases your graphics performance greatly.

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a c 245 4 Gaming
July 17, 2012 7:00:14 PM
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Don't expect that video card to get any sort of decent framerates. And the Hyper TX3 is no better than the stock fan. The problem with pre built kits is that they really skimp on the power supplies and cases - that's never a good idea.

Try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS224-06 DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $811.92
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
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July 18, 2012 2:58:00 AM

Thanks g-unit1111 and DeusAres for your quick and helpful suggestions!

G-unit1111, will this setup be able to handle games like Arma 2, BF3 and SC2?
a b 4 Gaming
July 18, 2012 3:17:35 AM

jeremy11 said:
Thanks g-unit1111 and DeusAres for your quick and helpful suggestions!

G-unit1111, will this setup be able to handle games like Arma 2, BF3 and SC2?


Yes, it'll handle those games just fine. I'd recommend dropping some of the visual settings to around high rather than max. This way you'll get decent frames without dips. It shouldn't be a problem though.
July 18, 2012 3:21:13 AM

Jeremy11, the game u mention? yes it can, but the video output is not as superb as high end PC. How much can u get a HD6870 and Mobo Asus P8Z77-V-LX? btw, fyi, P8Z77 come with WIFI and WIFI GO application by Asus :) .. but its not very cheap dude..
July 18, 2012 3:24:27 AM

ops, correction ASUS P8Z77-V mobo is come with WIFI
July 18, 2012 3:53:14 AM

daamz is the ASUS P8Z77-V mobo compatible with g-unit1111's setup?

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/cnpo


How exactly does the WIFI GO and the WIFI work from the Mobo? Is it easier to use than a wireless adapter? I don't mind dishing out a few extra dollars if it improves performance and wireless capabilities.
a c 245 4 Gaming
July 18, 2012 3:55:46 AM

jeremy11 said:
daamz is the ASUS P8Z77-V mobo compatible with g-unit1111's setup?

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/cnpo


How exactly does the WIFI GO and the WIFI work from the Mobo? Is it easier to use than a wireless adapter? I don't mind dishing out a few extra dollars if it improves performance and wireless capabilities.


Yup - it will work. I personally like Gigabyte but Asus is just as good as well.
July 18, 2012 3:59:19 AM

Thanks!
July 18, 2012 4:14:47 AM

yes it will work..definitely.. no worries...

btw, Asus P8Z77-V has Wifi-GO like i mentioned before and this thing will allow you to remote your PC to Androids and pads.. you may want to see video..'

http://vimeo.com/41973905

you may find it in youtube of how its function..

this mobo is good bro.. but gigabyte also a very good brand.. i just point it out about Wifi-GO since i saw you mention about the wifi adapter.. it is you call..
July 18, 2012 4:23:03 AM

daamz said:
yes it will work..definitely.. no worries...

btw, Asus P8Z77-V has Wifi-GO like i mentioned before and this thing will allow you to remote your PC to Androids and pads.. you may want to see video..'

http://vimeo.com/41973905

you may find it in youtube of how its function..

this mobo is good bro.. but gigabyte also a very good brand.. i just point it out about Wifi-GO since i saw you mention about the wifi adapter.. it is you call..



thanks for the video..makes it seem very useful around the house. I was concerned with wifi capabilities because the desktop this is going to be in my room instead of the office and I don't have any ethernet cables running upstairs (used to using a laptop). This looks like it'll work great though.
July 18, 2012 4:23:41 AM

Jeremy11, and if i was you, i would go for 3570k.. it just cost you another usd29.. but the performance is better and it unlocked and overclockable. in the future if you want to overclock it, i suggest you to buy a cooler and replace your stock processor cooler..


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this mobo is usd209.. its a bit expensive. it is your call
July 18, 2012 4:31:29 AM

jeremy11 said:
thanks for the video..makes it seem very useful around the house. I was concerned with wifi capabilities because the desktop this is going to be in my room instead of the office and I don't have any ethernet cables running upstairs (used to using a laptop). This looks like it'll work great though.


no problem bro... :)  hehe
July 18, 2012 4:35:29 AM

daamz said:
Jeremy11, and if i was you, i would go for 3570k.. it just cost you another usd29.. but the performance is better and it unlocked and overclockable. in the future if you want to overclock it, i suggest you to buy a cooler and replace your stock processor cooler..


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this mobo is usd209.. its a bit expensive. it is your call



Is there a noticeable difference between the 3450 and the 3570k? I'm upgrading from a macbook so I'm sure anything will be an upgrade performance wise in gaming and regular use.

I'm probably going to stick with the ASUS P8Z77-V you suggested first...don't want to go too over my budget seeing how I still need to get an OS, and possibly a cheap monitor somewhere.
a b 4 Gaming
July 18, 2012 4:48:43 AM

jeremy11 said:
Is there a noticeable difference between the 3450 and the 3570k? I'm upgrading from a macbook so I'm sure anything will be an upgrade performance wise in gaming and regular use.

I'm probably going to stick with the ASUS P8Z77-V you suggested first...don't want to go too over my budget seeing how I still need to get an OS, and possibly a cheap monitor somewhere.


Meh, not particularly. Depends on whether you plan on overclocking. I'd recommend spending the extra $20-30 for the 3570k though. Never know when that potential overclocking ability will come in handy...
July 18, 2012 4:53:43 AM

if that so, then you may stick with 3450 as well.. it is identical with 2500k stock performance.. no worries, the difference is just too litle to notice (stock performance).

July 18, 2012 5:01:41 AM

DeusAres said:
Meh, not particularly. Depends on whether you plan on overclocking. I'd recommend spending the extra $20-30 for the 3570k though. Never know when that potential overclocking ability will come in handy...


Yes, agreed.. $20 extra, hmmm.. Jeremy, better go for 3570k since you will use Asus-P8Z77-V.. it has USB BIOS-Flashback and the software inside also make the overclocker life easier.. you never know in another 2-3 years what gonna happen.. you might need it bro.. but it is up to you..

for the monitor, any type of monitor will be okay.. but make sure at least it got DVI connection and preferable DVI-D Dual Link to get same output video as HDMI.. but the difference with normal DVI is too litle to notice but it is beneficial you when come to the bigger monitor and HD..

Good luck.. no worry,

mine - i5-3570k, Asus P8Z77-V, Asus HD7850 DCU II, 1TB Baracuda, 8GB Kingston Hyper X, 650W GTX Series (bronze), Phillip 22 LED LCD monitor. Asus DVD-RW.... and few cooler.. no worry bro!


a c 245 4 Gaming
July 18, 2012 5:34:15 AM

daamz said:
jeremy -

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/asus-motherboard-p8z77v

it just $185 for the MOBO.. dont forget to consider our suggestion - 3570k... u dont need i7 if u already had 3570k.. haha..


Why would you get a $185 motherboard on an $800 build? That's a rather sizable portion of your budget there.
July 18, 2012 5:35:52 AM

my friend actually suggested I take a look at this build too

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/cqhQ

definitely a bit more pricey, but according to him there's a huge difference in performance. It incorporates your ASUS mobo and the 3570k but with different upgrades and alternatives. I wouldn't mind changing the video card to something slightly cheaper though

feedback?

Thanks again for all your helpful suggestions everyone
July 18, 2012 5:51:38 AM

jeremy11 said:
my friend actually suggested I take a look at this build too

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/cqhQ

definitely a bit more pricey, but according to him there's a huge difference in performance. It incorporates your ASUS mobo and the 3570k but with different upgrades and alternatives. I wouldn't mind changing the video card to something slightly cheaper though

feedback?

Thanks again for all your helpful suggestions everyone


Jeremy, everything look good. except the price lol.. haha..

GTX 570 1.25GB = $279?

if you want to move slightly lower, you may go to Asus

ENGTX560TI448DC2/2DIS/1280M

.. but if you want to save your money while get a mile better performance than GTX570, you may choose HD7850 DCUII 2GB 256bit DCUII!!

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/asus-video-card-hd7850d...

$255!!


July 18, 2012 6:07:58 AM

g-unit1111 said:
Why would you get a $185 motherboard on an $800 build? That's a rather sizable portion of your budget there.


he like wifi-go of Asus P8Z77-V bro..
a b 4 Gaming
July 18, 2012 6:45:37 AM

daamz said:
he like wifi-go of Asus P8Z77-V bro..


But is it worth the $60-80 difference between it and a different board such as the ASRock Extreme4. He could just buy a wireless adapter that plugs into a pci slot and save a ton of cash. Personally, I'd rather have a more powerful GPU.
July 18, 2012 6:59:23 AM

DeusAres said:
But is it worth the $60-80 difference between it and a different board such as the ASRock Extreme4. He could just buy a wireless adapter that plugs into a pci slot and save a ton of cash. Personally, I'd rather have a more powerful GPU.


Thats why i said it is depend on his choice..

personally, if we think about the long term, we should go for it.

the most physical advantage is FAN EXPERT 2, and WIfi-GO..
August 14, 2012 6:42:13 PM

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