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~$2.4k Extensive Gaming computer build need advice

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July 17, 2012 6:27:52 PM

I can't stop changing my build. From last time I was going with a single GTX 670 but check out the new build:

-Samsung Dvd burner: $13
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-Windforce GTX 670x2: $800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-Silverstone Gold 850PSU: $155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-G.Skill Ripjaws X 8Gb (4x2) 1600: $46
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-Asus Maximus V Formula: $290
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-Cougar CF-V12 Case fans x2: $28
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-I5 3570k: $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-Samsung 830 64GB: $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-Asus Nvidia 3D Vision 2 27" monitor: $600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

NZXT Switch case: $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

About $2407.

It picked that one monitor because I want 3D and I want 3D vision 2. I will upgrade to 3 monitors in the near future. My budget limits me to 1. The 2 GTX 670s because of 3D. The small SSD only for a boot drive. The 2 cougar fans for my WC loop. Maximus V Formula awesome board with VRM water cooling ;]. I am overclocking, and finally buying this on the 23rd of July. It's coming up can't wait! That's about all the explaining I think I need to do. There are other parts I omitted like UV sata cables and all the accessories. I only listed the essentials. What do you guys think?

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July 17, 2012 6:32:33 PM

Get a 128GB SSD instead of a 64GB - it shouldn't alter the cost of the build that much.

Also I think there's too much money being spent on monitors - with games you use either one monitor or three monitors, two won't work in most first and third person games.

Otherwise everything else looks good, love the Switch 810.
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July 17, 2012 6:34:52 PM

I won't use two monitors I'm upgrading to 3 near future. Isn't it tempting though, Nivida Vision 3!?
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July 17, 2012 6:45:37 PM

Roxas2030 said:
I won't use two monitors I'm upgrading to 3 near future. Isn't it tempting though, Nivida Vision 3!?


I'm personally not a fan of 3-D displays but if you want to use one I won't stop you.
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July 17, 2012 6:47:57 PM

Why do they suck? I heard 3D was great with Nvidia 3D vision 2. If not I'm getting rid of it >_> RMA it lol. I've never had experience with home 3D monitors, so I don't know. Reviews claim its really good.
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July 17, 2012 6:49:48 PM

Roxas2030 said:
Why do they suck? I heard 3D was great with Nvidia 3D vision 2. If not I'm getting rid of it >_> RMA it lol. I've never had experience with home 3D monitors, so I don't know. Reviews claim its really good.


I never said they suck, I am just not a fan. I can bet that will be sweet with 3 x 3-D displays though, but I personally prefer 2-D displays over 3-D ones. Monitors are a lot of personal preference.
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July 17, 2012 7:07:32 PM

if you're spending this much money...

maybe might as well just get 4x4 sticks of ram.
might as well get a blu-ray drive.
agree with the ssd to 128gb also

monitor, yes, give it a good think.

case already comes with 4 fans it looks like. NZXT fans are pretty quiet, I'd hold off on buying more fans until you build first
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July 17, 2012 7:12:55 PM

The 2 fans are for my radiator. I don't know what I'd ever do with Blu-ray drive I never watch blu-ray movies. This is for pure gaming. I will however change the SSD to 128SSD. I have the money for the other parts but I don't want to waste it on things I don't really need. Also why does everyone suggest the 128GB over a 64GB? Is tehre a performance difference? I only need it for boot drive.
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July 17, 2012 7:23:18 PM

Roxas2030 said:
The 2 fans are for my radiator. I don't know what I'd ever do with Blu-ray drive I never watch blu-ray movies. This is for pure gaming. I will however change the SSD to 128SSD. I have the money for the other parts but I don't want to waste it on things I don't really need. Also why does everyone suggest the 128GB over a 64GB? Is tehre a performance difference? I only need it for boot drive.


After format a 64GB SSD only gives you 57.1GB of free space to work with, add Windows install on top of that and you get less than 30GB. With that much less free space you start to lose a lot of Windows functionality. It's better to have more free space on your primary drive than use everything else on your secondary.
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July 17, 2012 7:29:46 PM

Oh I see, good thing you guys told me know before I bought it D:. Thanks! 128gb is a must then.
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July 17, 2012 7:31:45 PM

Even if it's a game system, where are you going to put your games, or browsers, or other apps.
They start taking space.

You're getting twice the space for $30, when you're spending 2000+.
You never know what's going to happen in the future, don't fall into the trap of things like "People will never need more than 128k of memory and things of that nature."



Same with the memory. It's only going to be another $45. maybe it's a loss, but Windows 7 does cache so to some degree it will make a little use of the memory. You never know what bloatware is going to come out later. Might as well have nice matched memory now (it's not that expensive).
Sometimes it even ends up harder (or more expensive) in the future to find the same memory you built when it goes out of production,
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July 17, 2012 8:18:59 PM

I have HDD for my games/files in raid 0. 16GBs of ram? I guess I can grab another 2 sticks of ram. I still don't see use for Blu-ray player though.
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July 17, 2012 9:04:06 PM

raytseng said:
Even if it's a game system, where are you going to put your games, or browsers, or other apps.
They start taking space.

You're getting twice the space for $30, when you're spending 2000+.
You never know what's going to happen in the future, don't fall into the trap of things like "People will never need more than 128k of memory and things of that nature."



Same with the memory. It's only going to be another $45. maybe it's a loss, but Windows 7 does cache so to some degree it will make a little use of the memory. You never know what bloatware is going to come out later. Might as well have nice matched memory now (it's not that expensive).
Sometimes it even ends up harder (or more expensive) in the future to find the same memory you built when it goes out of production,



You can certainly make the argument for bloatware but even then it doesn't really use that much RAM. Most games - at least right now - will never use more than 8GB. There's almost none currently that go over that.
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July 18, 2012 4:23:52 AM

i think we disagreed about this before,

but OP is spending $2400 on a comptuer. I have no idea why people balk over $43 to Double their ram and populate empty slots, but will willy-nilly blow $800 on video cards. The $43 on ram is less than the tax you're paying on the video card setup.

How much cheaper do you see the ram getting in the future? Someone explain to me what's the downside given the total price you are paying.

Maybe you will want to futz or playaround with ramdisk or something. Maybe you want to run 5games at a time and alt-tab. Windows will eventually cache all your programs to memory. In my view it has some practicality, especially when you're throwing around this kind of dough, just get a matched set now.
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July 18, 2012 4:27:02 AM

raytseng said:
i think we disagreed about this before,

but OP is spending $2400 on a comptuer. I have no idea why people balk over $43 to Double their ram and populate empty slots, but will willy-nilly blow $800 on video cards. The $43 on ram is less than the tax you're paying on the video card setup.

How much cheaper do you see the ram getting in the future? Someone explain to me what's the downside given the total price you are paying.

Maybe you will want to futz or playaround with ramdisk or something. Maybe you want to run 5games at a time and alt-tab. Windows will eventually cache all your programs to memory. In my view it has some practicality, especially when you're throwing around this kind of dough, just get a matched set now.


Who's running 5 games at once? :heink: 

It has practicality if you're using - say CS5 or Elements or anything of that nature. You don't have to get all 16GB at once, you can always add more as your needs change. Same with hard drives.
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July 18, 2012 4:33:47 AM

so if the price was $0 you would agree just get it right?

what if only cost $1? (considering you are spending $2400)

just wondering where you think the cutoff value for this would be, or if you would not spend a dime unless you needed it.
:) 
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July 18, 2012 5:03:39 AM

raytseng said:
so if the price was $0 you would agree just get it right?

what if only cost $1? (considering you are spending $2400)

just wondering where you think the cutoff value for this would be, or if you would not spend a dime unless you needed it.
:) 


That's one of those things where you really don't spend anymore than you have to. I have 16GB in my system because I use it for far more than just games. I put it this way - it's like the flair scene from the movie "Office Space" - sure you could get more, but why would you really want to? And are you better off for it? :lol: 
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July 18, 2012 12:44:52 PM

Best answer selected by roxas2030.
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