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Asus DirectCU II vs EVGA FTW vs Gigabyte Windforce GTX 670's

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May 24, 2012 2:22:17 PM

The Asus GTX 670 DC II got the Editor's choice award from techpowerup, also t's reported that it runs a bit cooler and less noisy than the Gigabyte Windforce.

So both cards are great but I'd recommend the Asus one.

Evga GTX 670 is excluded due to being a reference designed card, it will run much hotter than the other two.
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May 24, 2012 2:25:43 PM

I thought the EVGA FTW used a design similar to the reference GTX 680 board, with a longer card and better cooling than a reference 670. Whether that improves cooling significantly or not is beyond me. I also read EVGA binned cards so the FTW overclocked better.
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May 24, 2012 2:38:15 PM

Can you link the EVGA card?
Generally all the reference designed cards run 20C or more hotter than the non reference designed ones. And most of the EVGA cards are reference designed ones.

Also, all the GTX 670s/680s reference designed cards have a limited OCing ceiling sue to the small PCB used in the GTX 670s/680s making to save some power consumption and that is not the case in the Asus DCII and Gigabyte Windforce, they have the regular PCBs with addition power phases to allow for more OCing, and I've seen reviews shows the Asus DCII 680 reaching 1225 MHz, that will be impossible to achieve with the EVGA card.
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May 24, 2012 2:58:44 PM

Your EVGA card is different than the one I'm talking about, that's the one I'm talking about ;

That's the SC version with the small PCB, your card is different and yea may give you awesome OCing results.
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May 24, 2012 3:09:18 PM

Currently I own three GTX 670's. Two are the Gigabyte version and the other is the EVGA FTW version. I do not yet have the Asus as it is still unavailable.

This I can tell you for sure SLI with the Gigabyte version is NOT recommended.

I did not want the stock GTX 670 pcb so went with the versions that are built on the GTX 680 pcb.

You would think that the Gigabyte version with its 3 fan cooler would have lower load temps and be quieter but this is not the case.

In SLI with three spaces between the two cards, they overheated, the top card hit 93C before shutting down the pc and was screaming with over 80% fan speed, the lower Gigabyte card was at 88C and 77% fan speed (according to my GPU-Z logs)... Also my CPU temps rose by 10C due to all the hot air in my Switch 810 case (and this was with the side door open)...

Now you would think that the stock heatsink on the EVGA GTX 670 would be crap and to be honest I have seen better, but it appears to be a hybrid GTX 670/680 design and is actually quiet at idle. Now at full load it exhausts the hot air from the case and actually keeps temperatures in the case down more than the Gigabyte versions, the highest I have seen with the EVGA was 77C at 55% fan speed which is quieter than either of the Gigabyte cards...

Now overclocking: What can I say, the Gigabyte cards come with base clock of 980 and the EVGA1006, the EVGA even comes with 200mhz overclocked memory putting it ahead of the GTX 680... In my testing due to the heat issues the gigabyte cards would not overclock higher than +20 on the core. I have not yet overclocked the EVGA card but this is a FTW card and I expect better than +20. Even if it does not overclock it is still faster than the gigabyte cards with a +20 overclock.

Comparison to my watercooled GTX 680 in the same test rig: This is easy if we look at the graphics scores in 3D Mark 11 (I run with a 2500K overclocked to either 4.6 or 4.9Ghz and as this does not have hyperthreading the combined score is skewed).....

A pair of GTX 670's at stock will score 17K
A single Gigabyte GTX 670 at stock will score 8.8K
A Single EVGA GTX 670 FTW at stock scores 9.4K
A single MSI GTX 680 at stock scores 9.8K
and finally the GTX 680 scores 11K when overclocked.

EVGA community is terrific as is the support, Gigabyte support has always been meh....

To sum it up, between the EVGA GTX 670 FTW and the Gigabyte I would say EVGA everytime. I can not comment about the Asus.

I will be overclocking the EVGA at some stage today and will be getting a second for SLI testing early next week. Feel free to look for me on Futuremark and HardOCP forums as Footman.

Good luck.
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May 24, 2012 3:16:01 PM

ilysaml said:
The Asus GTX 670 DC II got the Editor's choice award from techpowerup, also t's reported that it runs a bit cooler and less noisy than the Gigabyte Windforce.

So both cards are great but I'd recommend the Asus one.

Evga GTX 670 is excluded due to being a reference designed card, it will run much hotter than the other two.


Not true, the EVGA FTW is based on the GTX 680 pcb, the core is clocked at the same frequency at the GTX 680 and the memory is clocked 200mhz higher than a stock GTX 680 at 6200mhz.

The stock GTX 670's are proving to be great overclockers as long as they are well cooled, so if you want to buy a stock GTX 670 you should consider watercooling or 3rd party HSF like the new Arctic Cooling solutions.

I forgot to mention in my post above that the power target on the Gigabyte GTX 670 is limited to 112%, the GTX 680 is limited to 132% and the EVGA GTX 670 FTW is limited to 145%. In theory the FTW should have the top binned cores and as long as they are well cooled should result in better performance than even the mighty GTX 680......
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May 24, 2012 3:49:24 PM

footman said:
Not true, the EVGA FTW is based on the GTX 680 pcb, the core is clocked at the same frequency at the GTX 680 and the memory is clocked 200mhz higher than a stock GTX 680 at 6200mhz.

That's why I asked him to link his card, I thought it's the SC version and in the second posts I clarified that, review my posts well.

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The stock GTX 670's are proving to be great overclockers as long as they are well cooled, so if you want to buy a stock GTX 670 you should consider watercooling or 3rd party HSF like the new Arctic Cooling solutions.

You just stated it, as long as...but they are not well cooled, even if with water cooling, instability is almost supposed to occur, the reference PCBs have limited OCing ceiling you can't go past it whatever you do.

Can't find any reviews of the Evga GTX 670 FTW to compare it with the Asus.
Also, the EVGA GTX 670 SC was replaced by the FTW version due to some bad components
http://www.legitreviews.com/news/13156/

OCing potentiality differs from one card to another even if they were the same model, you can't be 100% sure that OP will get your exact results, If the EVGA Overclocks great, both Gigabyte and Asus shouldn't be far behind. And Of course they will have better cooling results. .[/quotemsg]
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May 24, 2012 4:06:19 PM

I would honestly go with EVGA, if Im not mistaken they also have an "upgrade" plan, as long as you keep buying EVGA cards and they perform well and OC well also if your into ocing. Go for FTW not SC they was some issues with vram, fans, and some other random issues.
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May 24, 2012 4:17:34 PM

XmortisX said:
I would honestly go with EVGA, if Im not mistaken they also have an "upgrade" plan, as long as you keep buying EVGA cards and they perform well and OC well also if your into ocing. Go for FTW not SC they was some issues with vram, fans, and some other random issues.


EVGA step up is limited to stock models and 90 days from purchase.

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May 24, 2012 4:26:23 PM

ilysaml said:
That's why I asked him to link his card, I thought it's the SC version and in the second posts I clarified that, review my posts well.

You just stated it, as long as...but they are not well cooled, even if with water cooling, instability is almost supposed to occur, the reference PCBs have limited OCing ceiling you can't go past it whatever you do. Come on, every chip is limited in some way and all silicon has limited OCing ceiling, it is not specific to the GTX 670 in any way. Cool them with liquid nitrogen and they will overclock higher than on air, but there will still be a ceiling, overclocking is related more to the quality of the chip being used (bin). A well binned GTX 670 gpu has the potential to clock higher.

OCing potentiality differs from one card to another even if they were the same model, you can't be 100% sure that OP will get your exact results, If the EVGA Overclocks great, both Gigabyte and Asus shouldn't be far behind. And Of course they will have better cooling results. .
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Bottom line, if you want to guarantee an overclock, buy a version that is factory overclocked, another plus for the EVGA FTW version as it is clocked like a GTX 680 (on the core and has extra 200mhz on the memory)....

Anyhow, perhaps we are getting off the point here, I am trying to give the OP my opinion based on my ACTUAL testing of two of the three cards he is thinking about....
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May 24, 2012 4:40:23 PM

Do you have the same or similar heat issues with a single Gigabyte card? I'm surprised to read about your heat experience as my single card runs cool and quiet. I can't get it to break 70 degrees no matter how hard I push it. Heaven at 2560x1440 and maxed settings still won't break 70 degrees and the fans peak around 50%. I assume you have sufficient case ventilation? These cards with custom cooling do dump a lot of hot air into the case.

As far as overclocking, I have what turns out to be an average OCer. My stock boost clock is 1124, and I'm able to set the offset up to +126, for a load boost of 1250, along with a +450 memory clock offset. Anything higher than that I can't clear a Heaven bench without a driver crash. The average OC on the Gigabyte card appears to be around the 1275 mark, with many breaking 1300.
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May 24, 2012 4:41:40 PM

I'm also buying GTX 670 and wondering which.. seems that EVGA FTW is the best choice?I'm not planning on clocking alot?
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May 24, 2012 4:45:30 PM

@footman
I'm also giving my opinion, but I excluded the gigabyte and I'm recommending the Asus DC II, It's factory OCed to 1058, surpasses the GTX 680 level by a bit.
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May 24, 2012 4:46:53 PM

ilysaml said:
@footman
I'm also giving my opinion, but I excluded the gigabyte and I'm recommending the Asus DC II, It's factory OCed to 1058, surpasses the GTX 680 level by a bit.


So you own one and have tested it then?
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May 24, 2012 4:53:13 PM

No but I read the reviews on techpowerup and guru3d, reputable enough to take a word from them.
Should I own each single card out there to recommend one? :p 
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May 24, 2012 4:53:24 PM

Rumors of an EVGA recall on some of their reference models. I think the model people are recomending here is the FTW 02G-P4-2678-KR. It's clocked higher out of the box. The model exhibiting some problems is the orinigally released SC model 2670-KR.
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May 24, 2012 4:57:27 PM

footman said:

I forgot to mention in my post above that the power target on the Gigabyte GTX 670 is limited to 112%, the GTX 680 is limited to 132% and the EVGA GTX 670 FTW is limited to 145%. In theory the FTW should have the top binned cores and as long as they are well cooled should result in better performance than even the mighty GTX 680......


From my personal experience with the Gigabyte 670, this is a non-issue. At 111% my card will not downclock at all, as power never breaks 100% anyways at full load. These higher power offsets would probably matter if you could change the voltage on the card, but with voltage locked, it's mostly irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.
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May 24, 2012 4:58:22 PM

Asus manufacturers two version and neither is currently available in the USA yet. They have their Direct CUll and they also have a top version, the top version does have the highest core clocks but the EVGA has a higher memory clock.

The top has always had a great reputation, but my guess is it will be more expensive that even the EVGA FTW based on the difference between stock GTX 680 and the Asus top version. Finally it dumps hot air in to the case and takes up three slots.

@ Jaywill, I did test the Gigabyte in single card as well as SLI, temperatures were reduced but still high at 80C, I have a Switch 810 case with great airflow and the cards were tested with the side of the case open. I do not test with Furmark but looped runs of Unigine Heaven.
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May 24, 2012 5:00:23 PM

ilysaml said:
No but I read the reviews on techpowerup and guru3d, reputable enough to take a word from them.
Should I own each single card out there to recommend one? :p 



Err, yes if you want to be objective, everything else is hearsay. This is what makes a good reviewer great.

That is why I did not express an opinion in my original post regarding the Asus version.
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May 24, 2012 5:03:04 PM

Jaywill said:
From my personal experience with the Gigabyte 670, this is a non-issue. At 111% my card will not downclock at all, as power never breaks 100% anyways at full load. These higher power offsets would probably matter if you could change the voltage on the card, but with voltage locked, it's mostly irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.



Changing the power offset will allow the card to clock higher assuming cooling is sufficient......
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May 24, 2012 5:04:57 PM

There is a big enough difference between the EVGA stock/SC models and the FTW model. The FTW model is based on the 680 pcb with a "better" pcb material...or at least that's how I understood it from reading the description on newegg and evga's website. The FTW version does not appear to have the same problems that plagued some of the reference based models (stock/SC).

From Reviews online and many from Newegg, the EVGA models overclock really well (despite the shorter pcb and reference design) and stay pretty cool/quiet...sometimes as cool and more quiet than the gigabyte windforce one. I don't know enough about the ASus DC II one to share and info/input on that model...but from what I know about Asus models in the past - you can at least expect it to cool/overclock really well.

Bottom line - if you're only going to get one, its really up to you. If you are going to SLI at all - do not go with the gigabyte model. Those triple fans will do you no good. The EVGA FTW one is the best for use in SLI as it outputs all its heat out the case and doesn't recirculate any. The ASUS DC II will output some heat into the case, but not nearly as much as the Gigabyte Windforce one.
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May 24, 2012 5:28:35 PM

footman said:
Err, yes if you want to be objective, everything else is hearsay. This is what makes a good reviewer great.

That is why I did not express an opinion in my original post regarding the Asus version.

So I wonder why there are "Reviews" out there? :o 
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May 24, 2012 5:45:16 PM

footman said:
Changing the power offset will allow the card to clock higher assuming cooling is sufficient......


Not in my experience. Running loops in Heaven after pushing up Core Clock offsets, I get a driver crash long before the card reaches its power target, and with a GPU Temp below 70 degrees.

I'm still not understanding why your Gigabyte card is getting so hot. I can't get mine that hot no matter what I do. As I said above, my driver will crash before I reach that Temp threshold or my power target.
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May 24, 2012 5:52:31 PM

ilysaml said:
So I wonder why there are "Reviews" out there? :o 



Err, because the reviewers are sent the actual hardware to test!!!! FHS....
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May 24, 2012 5:55:17 PM

@footman

Not sure what the deal is with your Gigabyte cards. I own one also. Ive had it OC'ed with boost as high as 1280Mhz and the temps NEVER EVER went over 77C

I run it daily at 1188Mhz where it peaks at 71C. Fan speed on auto never goes above 53% which I cannot hear. Infact, If I mannually raise the fan speed. I only start to hear it around 65%.

Also, Stock, I pulled a 9100 in 3DMark11. @1188Mhz I pull just shy of 9300 and @ 1280Mhz I get almost 9600 (over all score)

As far as gaming goes. If I play Diablo 3 hours on end. The video card only runs at 45% load max.. and peaks at 53C.........
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Not sure if you were unlucky with your batch of Gigabyte cards. But mine has been flaweless and I never hear it over my H60 radiator fan. Which, I hardly hear as is.

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May 24, 2012 5:57:42 PM

I want to ask something..I'm getting 670 with cpu i5 2500k and I plan on overclocking but not for now.. later aswell as I plan on sli so the best is EVGA FTW?
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May 24, 2012 5:59:43 PM

Any card of those mentioned will be great, there's no serious problem about them.
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May 24, 2012 6:01:28 PM

footman said:
Err, because the reviewers are sent the actual hardware to test!!!! FHS....

I thought it was because they let people know what they pay for, not firstly purchase and then complain.
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May 24, 2012 6:03:54 PM

Triton05 said:
@footman

Not sure what the deal is with your Gigabyte cards. I own one also. Ive had it OC'ed with boost as high as 1280Mhz and the temps NEVER EVER went over 77C

I run it daily at 1188Mhz where it peaks at 71C. Fan speed on auto never goes above 53% which I cannot hear. Infact, If I mannually raise the fan speed. I only start to hear it around 65%.

Also, Stock, I pulled a 9100 in 3DMark11. @1188Mhz I pull just shy of 9300 and @ 1280Mhz I get almost 9600 (over all score)

As far as gaming goes. If I play Diablo 3 hours on end. The video card only runs at 45% load max.. and peaks at 53C.........
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Not sure if you were unlucky with your batch of Gigabyte cards. But mine has been flaweless and I never hear it over my H60 radiator fan. Which, I hardly hear as is.

my 2cps


This more closely represents my personal experience with the Gigabyte card as well. Very similar experience to mine.

I'm not sure what's going on with Footman's card(s).

As if right this minute, if I were buying a GTX 670 and both were in stock, I would probably pay the $30 premium for the ASUS DC2 TOP card (it's in stock at Newegg right now btw). Don't get me wrong, I love my Gigabyte card, but I'm a fan of ASUS and if it were available at release I would have bought it in a heartbeat.
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May 24, 2012 6:04:21 PM

Jaywill said:
Not in my experience. Running loops in Heaven after pushing up Core Clock offsets, I get a driver crash long before the card reaches its power target, and with a GPU Temp below 70 degrees.

I'm still not understanding why your Gigabyte card is getting so hot. I can't get mine that hot no matter what I do. As I said above, my driver will crash before I reach that Temp threshold or my power target.


Possible bad batch of Gigabyte cards, I am looking in to this today. Also possible that HSF is not making proper contact with GPU. I will look at this as well today.

Regarding the overclocking, obviously having a higher power target will help card to clock higher, but there are other variables of course, chip quality, heat and the application that is running. All of these variables will affect the dynamic core clock. I also believe that difference in overclocking can be attributed to unstable drivers as well. I have seen in single mode that different driver sets crash at different clocks, as well as different 3D applications. The latest 301.42 are proving to be more stable than the 301.32 in my testing so far.

An example of this is direct comparison of a single gigabyte card in Unigine and in 3D Mark 11. If I set the core at +80 it completes a loop of 3D Mark 11 successfully, however it causes the driver to crash in a run of Unigine at the same clock... This is with the 301.32's and yet I can complete runs at +80 successfully with the 301.42's...

I have not quite dug deep enough yet to determine if this is software based, hardware based or bit of both.
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May 24, 2012 6:05:10 PM

footman said:
Asus manufacturers two version and neither is currently available in the USA yet. They have their Direct CUll and they also have a top version, the top version does have the highest core clocks but the EVGA has a higher memory clock.

The top has always had a great reputation, but my guess is it will be more expensive that even the EVGA FTW based on the difference between stock GTX 680 and the Asus top version. Finally it dumps hot air in to the case and takes up three slots.

@ Jaywill, I did test the Gigabyte in single card as well as SLI, temperatures were reduced but still high at 80C, I have a Switch 810 case with great airflow and the cards were tested with the side of the case open. I do not test with Furmark but looped runs of Unigine Heaven.

You may get better cooling performance with the sides closed, open sides tend to disrupt the airflow lanes that the case was designed with, lowering the overall cooling performance. If you are getting lower temps with the side off than with it on then that indicates that your case has poor airflow.

With an Antec 300 illusion case my Gigabyte GTX 670 single card has yet to break 67c with 1 hour of Heaven loops
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May 24, 2012 6:15:09 PM

Here are the gigabyte cards I have been testing:


and here is the test bed I've been using, plenty of airflow.



Naked EVGA GTX 670 waiting for waterblock....
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May 24, 2012 6:30:39 PM

footman said:
Here are the gigabyte cards I have been testing:


Nice looking rig footman. Although I bet white sleeved cabling would make it look even nicer! :D 
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May 24, 2012 6:33:46 PM

footman said:
Here are the gigabyte cards I have been testing:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60054981/022.JPG

and here is the test bed I've been using, plenty of airflow.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60054981/025.JPG

Sure there is a lot of air available to flow, but with that side off the airflow is not directed where it was intended by design. Think of it this way, you take a wind tunnel fan and place it out in an open field, sure that fan can generate a lot of airflow, and is getting plenty of air to flow, but standing 20 feet away you barely feel that airflow because it dissapates into the open air. Take that same fan and place it into a wind tunnel designed for it and 20 feet away from it you cant even stand up because of the directed airflow.

You put the side on that case and now the air the the front fans are pulling in cant escape out the side it is forced to go through, and over your graphics card to escape out the rear and or top output fans.
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May 24, 2012 7:45:39 PM

Oh, it's not in stock anymore:( . I think I'll go with the EVGA FTW or the Asus DirectCUII, especially with your guys' feedback and those reviews. I'll definitely buy it off of Newegg, because their service is great and they've earned a loyal customer. It's kind of off topic but I bought a PSU from them last week for this computer I built, and it got $15 cheaper, but despite their policy, the rep gave me the difference in credit. From what I've gathered from your responses, the Gigabyte is a good card but not if I'm planning to go SLI, which I am.
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May 24, 2012 8:24:47 PM

Jaywill said:
Nice looking rig footman. Although I bet white sleeved cabling would make it look even nicer! :D 


Cheers, I did look in to white, but decided to leave it black.

Took a lunch break and fitted my GTX 680 waterblock to the EVGA GTX 670 FTW. Fitted perfectly, temps down from 77C to 49C full load.

Max OC on the FTW card is +70mhz which with boost runs to 1246mhz, just a fraction below my GTX 680 fully overclocked at 1270mhz.

It is quite apparent that this FTW when overclocked is faster than a stock GTX 680. Seriously a good deal at $419.




The Gigabyte cards are being returned, do not want to continue testing these. Will add another FTW to my loop next week.
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May 24, 2012 8:26:10 PM

jim45682 said:
Sure there is a lot of air available to flow, but with that side off the airflow is not directed where it was intended by design. Think of it this way, you take a wind tunnel fan and place it out in an open field, sure that fan can generate a lot of airflow, and is getting plenty of air to flow, but standing 20 feet away you barely feel that airflow because it dissapates into the open air. Take that same fan and place it into a wind tunnel designed for it and 20 feet away from it you cant even stand up because of the directed airflow.

You put the side on that case and now the air the the front fans are pulling in cant escape out the side it is forced to go through, and over your graphics card to escape out the rear and or top output fans.



Thanks Jim, I understand the concept of positive air pressure already.
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May 24, 2012 8:30:45 PM

ninjarubberduck said:
Oh, it's not in stock anymore:( . I think I'll go with the EVGA FTW or the Asus DirectCUII, especially with your guys' feedback and those reviews. I'll definitely buy it off of Newegg, because their service is great and they've earned a loyal customer. It's kind of off topic but I bought a PSU from them last week for this computer I built, and it got $15 cheaper, but despite their policy, the rep gave me the difference in credit. From what I've gathered from your responses, the Gigabyte is a good card but not if I'm planning to go SLI, which I am.


Asus build outstanding products, I am sure that this version will run quiet, Guru3D did tri sli testing with two of these and a stock SLI and liked the solution, they were testing in an open bed test rig though.

What case are you planning on putting these cards in and do you have the extra space between your PCI-E slots? I am not conversant with this AsRock motherboard.
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May 24, 2012 9:18:49 PM

EVGA 670 FTW is out of stock, and yes the Asus is finally being sold at Newegg, listed today, the Top version is sold out but you can still snag the lower clocked version for $419 with free shipping. Pretty good deal...
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May 24, 2012 10:24:08 PM

footman said:
Asus build outstanding products, I am sure that this version will run quiet, Guru3D did tri sli testing with two of these and a stock SLI and liked the solution, they were testing in an open bed test rig though.

What case are you planning on putting these cards in and do you have the extra space between your PCI-E slots? I am not conversant with this AsRock motherboard.


I am putting it into a Corsair 400R case, and I would think so, but the motherboard is a strange size, not full ATX.

I think I'll wait for the TOP with its $10 premium over the regular if I do plan on going with Asus. Asus bins their better overclocking cards and sell those as TOP if I am correct.
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May 24, 2012 10:31:43 PM

ninjarubberduck said:
I am putting it into a Corsair 400R case, and I would think so, but the motherboard is a strange size, not full ATX.

I think I'll wait for the TOP with its $10 premium over the regular if I do plan on going with Asus. Asus bins their better overclocking cards and sell those as TOP if I am correct.

Correct.
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May 24, 2012 11:39:07 PM

so @footman which would be better? evga 670 ftw or ASUS one? i dont really understand much about hardware :/  im planning on sli but not for now ?
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May 25, 2012 1:05:53 AM

so ive got a question im looking for video so i should wait for the asus dcuii top to come back in or get the reg one.
Or should i wait to see if msi brings out it's power edition or what ever there naming it anytime soon
And if the gigabyte windforce happens to come back in stock is it worth it to buy it becuse most of what ive read is good about it.

And i may or may not sli depending on budget and certain other people whom i wont mention yelling at me for spending so much on a computer
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May 25, 2012 2:33:52 AM

Inno3d is also making one that got a great review from tweak town
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May 26, 2012 8:35:01 AM

footman said:
Thanks Jim, I understand the concept of positive air pressure already.


I will say that you have one of the cleanest looking builds I have seen, and with watercooling, having side on or off doesnt matter much most likely, I was just offering a possible solution to your high temps when using air cooling on the cards is all.
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May 28, 2012 3:30:08 PM

Cheers Jim, appreciate the comments. Been building computers since 1981, so most likely have more than a few years on you guys, lol....
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May 28, 2012 3:36:24 PM

charpidis said:
so @footman which would be better? evga 670 ftw or ASUS one? i dont really understand much about hardware :/  im planning on sli but not for now ?


I will go SLI with my GTX 670's. If you want to run on air, then good case airflow is required. Any of the open fan designs will exhaust air in to the case (Asus and Gigabyte, although based on my testing of the Direct CU solutions and the Gigabyte GTX 670, I will go with the Asus for lower noise). If you want to expel the air from the case then I would recommend the stock HSF on the EVGA FTW, it is not the best, but it does the job and stays relatively quiet until around 65% fanspeed.

I am putting the other EVGA GTX 670 when it turns up this week underwater too, for now, I will say that either the Asus or EVGA will be a good buy, if you want SLI choose the same cards to be sure of compatibility. I can tell you that the Gigabyte and EVGA cards did not work in SLI mode, so stick to same make or go with stock GTX 670's for sli....

For those of you that have not seen the full length pcb or stock HSF, I will post some photos later.
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