7850 vs 570

Hi, I've been debating over what graphics card to get once again. First I decided on 7850, then it was to wait for the 660 ti, and now it might be 7850 or 560 ti(384 but comes with bf3).

I'll be getting it once finals are over so June 12th. What would be my best option. I heard CUDA cores are good for programming, but also that their becoming out of date. I really like the 7850 but still scared about not getting the best pixel rate.

I use a 24" ASUS LED monitor 1900x 1080.

7850:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127663

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161405

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131472

560 ti 384:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162089

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127578

I want a card that will last for at least 5 years running Ultra>>>>Very High>>>>High for awhile.

Should i save the money and get a 560 ti? or wait for 660 ti? but if i want it now will i regret the not getting a 660 ti?
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  1. my vote:
    MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC

    now about running 5 years on ultra; i would not expect even the two flagships, 7970 and 680/90 to do that . . .
  2. I meant 5 years going down from ultra to very high to high.
    Any advice on cuda vs stream/Opencl?
  3. sorry, i am ignorant about the computing aspects of a grfx card. i let the arrogant geeks debate that out. :lol:

    i only care if it plays the games i like @ 45fps.
  4. Right now League of Legends runs at 40-50fps with integrated and everything maxed out.

    Another opinions?
  5. I think now it's between

    Sapphire

    ASUS Direct CU II

    and MSI Twin Frozr 3 or power edition.

    When is the power edition coming causing that seems like a good deal.
  6. I had to make the same decision, it lead me to choosing between these two cards.

    The Asus card has the 7870's cooling system (the same fans etc) meaning that it's probably going to cool better than the rest, so that'd be great for overclocking.

    and the Msi power edition also has great cooling, and is great for overclocking but I've read that it's loud.
    They both have 3 year warranty's, so it's up to you.
  7. Oh and, if you're not going to overclock, go for the msi power edition.
  8. There's no power edition here so I'll probably get the msi twin frozr 3
    I'm going to overclock. Anything on the iceq x? Or sapphire?
  9. I've heard the iceq x is the worst of the cards, and the sapphire is what most people get, but I don't know why.
  10. Ok so no ice q anything else?
  11. I think im gonna wait next week for the twin frozr 3 any objections? CUDA vs Stream?
  12. CUDA has way better support. What programming do you do? Check this out:

    http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/DevZone/docs/html/C/doc/CUDA_C_Programming_Guide.pdf
  13. nothing yet, probably java, objective c and etc.

    This one says that CUDA is becoming out of date.

    http://www.streamcomputing.eu/blog/2011-06-22/opencl-vs-cuda-misconceptions/
  14. You shouldn't think about parallel programming yet if you haven't done normal programming. You need to learn normal stuff first :). It will take some time, and don't pick your GPU for it.
  15. see the thing is my parents are programmers so i'll be able to pick up easier, I've done a little java already and i know the basics of html

    Just wanna make sure which one is better
  16. Well, if your parents are programmers, they will know more about programming aspect of it :). HD 7850 is around 20% faster than GTX 560 Ti 384.
  17. what about the pixel rate? that worries me.
  18. is there any performance charts for 1900x1080 in ultra? that's what ill be using.
  19. Max settings:



    Note, that's single player, not multiplayer. Performance will drop significantly in multiplayer, and battlefield 3 will probably be the only game that you will not be able to play on ultra.
  20. Sunius said:
    Max settings:

    http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7850_HD_7870/images/bf3_1920_1200.gif

    Note, that's single player, not multiplayer. Performance will drop significantly in multiplayer, and battlefield 3 will probably be the only game that you will not be able to play on ultra.

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
    :whistle:
  21. Anonymous said:
    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
    :whistle:


    ? :pt1cable:
  22. i think you was on that thread where it became an "issue" about the difference in benches for BF3 being SP as oppose to FPS in MP.
  23. what????
  24. natthewu said:
    what????

    don't mind me . . and sorry for distracting from the topic.

    though to let you know any benchmark you see for BF3 is in single player. it is hard to bench multiplayer because the game play is not consistent, different map, amount of players and activity.

    so if you use multi player the frame rate will drop do to the added uses of the computer's resources as compared to the benchmarks.

    what was said on the other thread needs to stay on the other thread. my bad.
  25. haha ok, so if the if one of the sapphire or msi comes back in stock at newegg, does it matter which one i choose?
  26. i don't see a link to a sapphire card.

    though i always have liked the msi twins; nice cooling set up.
  27. MSI R7850 Twin Frozr Limited Warranty period (parts): 3 years

    SAPPHIRERadeon HD 7850 OC Limited Warranty period (parts): 2 years

    only meaningful difference i see.
  28. Now I'm considering getting a 570 with a lifetime warranty EVGA:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

    It's the same price

    EDIT: Also I will be overclocking either one to fullest potential. I bought bf3 so I can use my graphics card fully.
  29. I can tell you that I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my Zotac (lifetime warranty) GTX570 compared to my previous card (XFX HD 6950) though I would definately go with that 7850 Frozr if going for any significant overclock.
  30. GTX 660 won't be coming out until july or august from what I've read. Asking for a card at ultra>very high etc. for 5 years is a bit much to ask from gtx 570/7850 to be perfectly honest with you.

    I'd suggest the 7850 since it has more vram and has driver maturity to go through. Crysis 3 might be the fun new standard for graphics cards testing vram, who knows. Good luck
  31. natthewu said:
    Now I'm considering getting a 570 with a lifetime warranty EVGA:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

    It's the same price

    EDIT: Also I will be overclocking either one to fullest potential. I bought bf3 so I can use my graphics card fully.

    The EVGA you linked is $299.99 as opposed to the $269.99+Free Game for the 7850. The only problem with the MSI & Saphhire 7850 is being out of stock. I would go with either of the two for the dual fan set-up.
    I am glad nobody pushed for the IceQ. I had HIS IceQ before (but of different gpu) & end up replacing the cooler with dual fan after market cooler.
  32. Are you sure cause most people say it does
  33. Will a lifetime warranty be good if I get a 570 vs 7850?
  34. how much is the price of 570 vs 7850?
  35. that's a 480 not 570
  36. I think 351 watts at load compared to 135 watts at load, also 480's don't overclock too much but the small increments are pretty good. The heat is not worth getting an aftermarket cooler
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