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July 18, 2012 12:59:43 PM

Hello, Haven't had a decent gaming system in over a decade. Looking to build my first one as well. Set my budget for no more then $1,200.00 CAD, but may be able to fudge that a bit. Originally I though I wanted a ton of RAM and a super high end GPU... but after reading some of the other posts, not sure what I want, let alone need. HELP

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week (the closer the better) 7-10 days

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before / After Rebates; Before / After Shipping 900 - 1,200 CAD

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies) Gaming (Skyrim/SC2/SWTOR), Surfing, Streaming Multimedia and home networking

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

a b 4 Gaming
July 18, 2012 1:12:11 PM

do you have any parts that you wont need?

do you want to overclock or SLI/crossfire?
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July 18, 2012 1:16:19 PM

TheBigTroll said:
do you have any parts that you wont need?

do you want to overclock or SLI/crossfire?


Starting from nothing

Being able to Overclock would be nice, not sure If I'd do it, or need to do it. SLI/crossfire?????

Seriously. The last system I looked at, was a Dell customer build 6 years ago for my wife. Last set of computers I sold to anyone (Product Knowledge) was a PIII system by Compaq... Before HP bought them. Consider me a laymen on the parts.
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July 18, 2012 2:40:05 PM

Well for me I tend to build a PC that will be upgradable for the near future (sadly that is what I thought when I builded my gaming PC, but with PCI Express 3.0 in the market, i'm obsolete :pfff:  ). Hopefully the industry won't make major changes that will screw me up again lol.

Here a list that you could check out to build your first gaming PC, All under $1200 ($1126.91 keyboard, mouse, shipping and taxes not included) :

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory with heatshield Model PSD38G1600KH

ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply, New Version with Build-in ...

LITE-ON H/H Internal BD Combo with Nero Essential SATA Model IHES312-98

Sentey Burton Series GS-6500R Black / Red 1mm SECC / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Acer G235HAbd 23'' WideScreen LCD monitor




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a b 4 Gaming
July 18, 2012 3:51:12 PM

isoomega said:
Well for me I tend to build a PC that will be upgradable for the near future (sadly that is what I thought when I builded my gaming PC, but with PCI Express 3.0 in the market, i'm obsolete :pfff:  ). Hopefully the industry won't make major changes that will screw me up again lol.

Here a list that you could check out to build your first gaming PC, All under $1200 ($1126.91 keyboard, mouse, shipping and taxes not included) :

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory with heatshield Model PSD38G1600KH

ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply, New Version with Build-in ...

LITE-ON H/H Internal BD Combo with Nero Essential SATA Model IHES312-98

Sentey Burton Series GS-6500R Black / Red 1mm SECC / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Acer G235HAbd 23'' WideScreen LCD monitor



i see some flaws already

1: raidmax is known for bad psu s. 730w is also overkill even for crossfire 7850. a 650w can do the job fine
2: case will never be as good quality as the one i have. whats the 1mm for anyways
3: he will need a heatsink for overclocking
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July 18, 2012 3:54:30 PM

TheBigTroll said:
ok then ill configure it to be able to overclock but no sli or crossfire (basically using 2 video cards at once)

its 1250 dollars.

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/crxr



drop the CPU cooler and get a better mobo and I'd +1 this build.

you can add a cpu cooler later but you cant add on to the mobo....
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a b 4 Gaming
July 18, 2012 3:57:23 PM

if i get a full size, it will cost a bit more. im pretty dam sure that the hyper 212 evo fits in fine
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a b 4 Gaming
July 18, 2012 3:57:51 PM

if you buy cpu cooler later on, it will cost more as prices can only go up
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July 18, 2012 3:57:59 PM

What software do you use? You should go to the forums of Autocad (if you use their software) for advise on the workstation gfx card that you'll need IMO.
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July 18, 2012 4:07:41 PM

TheBigTroll said:
if i get a full size, it will cost a bit more. im pretty dam sure that the hyper 212 evo fits in fine


TheBigTroll said:
if you buy cpu cooler later on, it will cost more as prices can only go up



The rig you picked out does not need to be OCd out of the box. It will run just fine with the stock cpu cooler. CPU coolers are not jumping around in price all that much. I'd take a better mobo now and CPU cooler OC later. I'd rather not +1 a build the cuts down the mobo for a CPU cooler. That said, if the OP is fine with it, cool.
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July 18, 2012 9:38:28 PM

TheBigTroll said:
i see some flaws already

1: raidmax is known for bad psu s. 730w is also overkill even for crossfire 7850. a 650w can do the job fine
2: case will never be as good quality as the one i have. whats the 1mm for anyways
3: he will need a heatsink for overclocking


1. Well when I check newegg rating it was pretty decent rating for the power supply. On the upside Dovalegokiin doesn't have to worry about upgrading to another PSU becasue it is SLI/Crossfire ready.
2. Demoting the case because you say "the case will never be as good quality as the one I have" has no valid if you don't show what case you have that would rival Sentey Burton and for the price. Remember his on a budget of $1200, just saying.
3. He could alway upgrade the heatsink which it shouldn't be a problem plus it questionable whether he would do it or not.
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Being able to Overclock would be nice, not sure If I'd do it, or need to do it. SLI/crossfire?????


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a b 4 Gaming
July 18, 2012 11:02:08 PM

well sorry then. i was kinda in a rush typing this.

still, get a nice case like a antec 302 or a fractal core 3000
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a b 4 Gaming
July 18, 2012 11:08:23 PM

a really cheap case would be the antec one but it still has great build quality. only bad thing is that it doesnt fit any graphics card over 10.5 inches


and you do realize the sentey case is 109.99 dollars at newegg.com right? if you need verification, here it is
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
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July 19, 2012 12:23:07 AM

TheBigTroll said:
a really cheap case would be the antec one but it still has great build quality. only bad thing is that it doesnt fit any graphics card over 10.5 inches


and you do realize the sentey case is 109.99 dollars at newegg.com right? if you need verification, here it is
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...


Oh I know it is 109.99, but that is a decent price for that ATX full tower. Personally I would not buy that case for myself I'll purchase a better one, but this is not my budget. I could not find a cheaper ATX full tower case that would be as decent as this (unless you show me otherwise, I wouldn't be mad by it :D  . Plus reason I went with a ATX full tower is for expandability and flexibility purpose ;)  .
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