You picked the wrong ones. The best DVD drive is the LiteOn LTD-163.
Reviews on it
<A HREF="http://cdrinfo.com/hardware/dvdroundup/page6.shtml" target="_new">http://cdrinfo.com/hardware/dvdroundup/page6.shtml</A>
<A HREF="http://www.cdrlabs.com/review.php3?reviewid=60&page=Conclusion" target="_new">http://www.cdrlabs.com/review.php3?reviewid=60&page=Conclusion</A>
The only real downside to this drive is the RPC2.
Maybe the RPC2 can be bypassed:
"I recently bought an LTD-163 dvd drive. all the information I can gather on this thing says that it's an RPC-2 drive. Evidently it pulls the region from the first DVD that you insert in to the drive. If you were to insert an RCE disk first thing, (i believe which are marked as region 0) would this effectively unlock the region on the drive?
I've wondered if this would be a solution to all the drives that operate in this manner.
Ok, now if this solution doesn't work, I have noticed that there are three sets of jumper pins on the lower right hand corner on the back of the drive (this is in addition to the ma/sl/cs jumper pins). I have not been able to find anything documenting these pins, official or unoffical. does anyone by chance know anything or have any suggestions? the drive came with non of them being jumpered but I intend to do some experimenting. "
This site may help too:
http://firmware.inmatrix.com
www.inmatrix.com
The Pioneer may be a little faster, but the lite on has been verified to do everything well, while the www.storagereview.com guys don't test for stuff like PSX(playstation) disc copying and sub channel data and 90-99 min cd reading and clonecd performance.