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July 18, 2012 6:05:58 PM

Hey guys
Im a 18 year old guy, who lives in sweden
I recently worked 2 summer jobs, and that lead to me wanting to get a computer. I've never built one myself, and i don't know much at all.
I have been lurking around the forums for about 3 days now, learned alot :) , and it seems like newegg is THE site to buy from.
Not sure if i can use it, cause i live in sweden though.
Either way, im planning to buy in about 1 or 2 months, the reason is because im going to dubai with the family in about 8 days.
I also wonder if parts are cheaper there, should i buy something there, because money will be available.
Are parts in dubai crap xD ?
Tell me what you think guys, cause i will try my best to update this thread by as much as i can.
Will i need to buy a SSD, or should i hold off on buying cause say in 3 months there will be a major drop in prices, something along those lines ?

And one last thing, i would like this PC to last for at least 2-3 years if possible, honestly im not sure how long a pc for about $1000-1100 can last.
But that's why im here :D 


Thanks in advance

PS: Excuse my sucky english :D 


Approximate Purchase Date: Possibly this month, or next month

Budget Range: $1000 ( It's ok if you go above say 100 dollars, if it's a major or very useful improvement

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming at high settings, BF3, Crysis, Wow watching movies of high quality, surfing--- And possibly my sister may use my comp for photoshop,

Are you buying a monitor: Well, i don't own a monitor for this new build, and im not sure of how expensive they are, i wonder if they would set back my build by alot, tell me what you think, cause i could probably, buy one with next months pay.






Do you need to buy OS: Yes, i do, but should i include that into the build cost ?


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Your choice guys, but newegg, seems like a solid choice ?

Location: City, State/Region, Country - I live in sweden

Parts Preferences: by brand or type : I have no preferences, giving you guys free hands

Overclocking: Honestly not sure at all.

SLI or Crossfire: I don't even know that that is.

Your Monitor Resolution: Once again your choice, if you would like to include one in the build

Additional Comments: Worthy mention, water cooling systems with all those glowing things look BAD ASS xD

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Always been a laptop guys, and they have never been able to play high end games :S



Overall: I don't mean to sound rude, but would you please give some pointers such as (You don't need this power supply, this one will suit your needs much better etc)
I've been seeing that one alot, in the past few days :) 



Once again thanks in advance :) 

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July 18, 2012 6:17:49 PM

Hejsan ^^

Couple of things:
Newegg isn't an option if you're in Sweden
Parts in Dubai I would guess are more expensive than EU
If you want to order internationally, order from Germany. I don't know the exchange rate for EUR-SEK so you may save some money or not.
Water cooling isn't really an option at your budget

So, will we shop at a Swedish site or a German one?
July 18, 2012 7:07:58 PM

Hi and Tjena FinneousPJ

Well, Finn i guess Sweden would be best, as i could get the parts of the build faster ?
But checking into a german site/seller would be nice to ?
Either way, do what you think is best.

Thanks :D 
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July 18, 2012 7:22:57 PM

Here's a Swedish website I found yesterday: http://www.inet.se/

At current rate of exchange $1100 USD = 7 632.78 kr

So you could get a system like this with that kind of budget:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - 749 kr
PSU: Corsair TX650 V2 - 840 kr
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77-D3H - 840 kr
CPU: 3.1GHz Intel Core i5-3450 - 1 712 kr
RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance ( 2 x 4096MB) 1600MHz 1.5V - 464 kr
HD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda ST 7200RPM - 749 kr
Optical: Samsung 22X DVD Burner - 199 kr
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 - 2 454 kr

Total: 8 007 kr ($1,154.72 USD)

A little over budget but you don't compromise on anything.
July 18, 2012 8:55:55 PM

Wow thanks
Great job on finding a swedish website, also one of the shops, is pretty close to me :D 

Couple of things i wonder
I don't mean to question your knowledge, but i read some review, talking about PC's built by yourselves, can't play high end games without an SSD.
Also, will i be able to play games with high settings with what you have just given me ?
For approximately, how many years could game on this computer ?

Thanks in advance :D 
July 18, 2012 9:31:32 PM

NotSoHighTech said:
Wow thanks
Great job on finding a swedish website, also one of the shops, is pretty close to me :D 

Couple of things i wonder
I don't mean to question your knowledge, but i read some review, talking about PC's built by yourselves, can't play high end games without an SSD.
Also, will i be able to play games with high settings with what you have just given me ?
For approximately, how many years could game on this computer ?

Thanks in advance :D 


I saw that link in a thread yesterday.

As far as games go - SSDs don't really do anything for games other than fast loading and booting times. Where you'll notice the most difference with any build is with the GPU, you want the best GPU you can get for your money.

The 7850 will max out pretty much anything you can throw at it and it uses 1/2 the power of the previous generations. You'll be able to play for at least a couple of years on one card, probably 3 - 4 years with two.
July 18, 2012 9:51:06 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I saw that link in a thread yesterday.

As far as games go - SSDs don't really do anything for games other than fast loading and booting times. Where you'll notice the most difference with any build is with the GPU, you want the best GPU you can get for your money.

The 7850 will max out pretty much anything you can throw at it and it uses 1/2 the power of the previous generations. You'll be able to play for at least a couple of years on one card, probably 3 - 4 years with two.


Well loading times are not that much of a issue im guessing, with this build.
Will i need any extra fans, if so which ones ? Just to give it that extra edge ?

Thanks mate, you have been very helpful
July 18, 2012 10:24:33 PM

NotSoHighTech said:
Well loading times are not that much of a issue im guessing, with this build.
Will i need any extra fans, if so which ones ? Just to give it that extra edge ?

Thanks mate, you have been very helpful


Read this - it will tell you everything you need to know about setting up a good cooling system: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooling-airflow-hea...

Wait until you get your case before buying extra fans. You can only get as many fans as your case has mounts for and the way your fans are setup determines how your air is going to flow.
July 19, 2012 10:24:27 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Here's a Swedish website I found yesterday: http://www.inet.se/

At current rate of exchange $1100 USD = 7 632.78 kr

So you could get a system like this with that kind of budget:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - 749 kr
PSU: Corsair TX650 V2 - 840 kr
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77-D3H - 840 kr
CPU: 3.1GHz Intel Core i5-3450 - 1 712 kr
RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance ( 2 x 4096MB) 1600MHz 1.5V - 464 kr
HD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda ST 7200RPM - 749 kr
Optical: Samsung 22X DVD Burner - 199 kr
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 - 2 454 kr

Total: 8 007 kr ($1,154.72 USD)

A little over budget but you don't compromise on anything.



Alright, So i have been looking around at Swedish sites and i found a Intel Core i5 3570K 3,4Ghz (Ivy Bridge) for only 1990 kr.
Should i try to upgrade that, and also should i get a better motherboard, cause i think i can get around 400 dollars more.
Bumping my budget up to about 1400-1500 dollars.

Thx
July 20, 2012 1:23:38 AM

Ok, so i switched one thing in the build, that being only the CPU.
Below is the build that, g-unit gave me, + the CPU, which lands on 8323 kr which in dollars is $1148

http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/2046098/2012-07-20

I also find these so called bargains, but i can't tell if they are, so please advice me :

Videocard-PCI-Express-NVIDIA Gainward GeForce GTX 570 Phantom HDMI DisplayPort Dual-DVI 1280MB---- 1990 kr which in dollars $274,54

Videocard-PCI-Express-NVIDIA Gigabyte Geforce GTX 580 1536MB GDDR5, (795Mhz), 2xDVI, HDMI, HDTV, with Cuda, Windforce X3----- this in swedish kr is 2590 and in dollars $357,32

Also, why are these cards so cheap ??
First card, been to repair
Second card, missing outer packaging
But, they are being sold by a pretty legitimate company in sweden called CDON.



Worth taking any risks ?

Do any of these beat the Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 ?

Bear in mind im completly clueless, if these are any good or anything, and do any of these beat the Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850, so please guide me :D 

Check it out, btw i get free shipping :D 
July 20, 2012 2:21:50 AM

the 580 beats the 7850 but uses 2x more power. just pick up whatever you chose in the cart and you will be ready to go. personally, id like to put SSDs in most builds i suggest but if you dont feel that you need the extra push in speed (50sec boot times vs 10sec boot times), you are good
July 20, 2012 2:39:22 AM

I just found this computer, and i was told it's very good for it's price ?

http://cdon.se/hemelektronik/thor_jords_v.2_-_intel_i5-...

I also found a ASUS Radeon HD7950 3GB for 2699 kr, which in dollars $372,36

Worth buying what do you guys think, ill try to look into things as much as i can, since i won't be buying in at least 1-2 months.

Thanks
July 20, 2012 2:45:08 AM

how much is 8990kr in US?

it sounds good but i already see that they could have done much better with the power supply but you can always buy another one. i cant see the motherboard or the cooler. otherwise, i think it is a great deal if i know what 8990kr is
July 20, 2012 3:15:20 AM

8990 kr, is $ 1240 dollars
I think we can do better :) 
Quite a bit better

Btw, can i use pcpartpicker here in sweden ?
July 20, 2012 4:07:58 AM

NotSoHighTech said:
8990 kr, is $ 1240 dollars
I think we can do better :) 
Quite a bit better

Btw, can i use pcpartpicker here in sweden ?


Unfortunately PC Part Picker only works in Australia, Germany, France, New Zealand, UK, and the US.
July 20, 2012 4:12:56 AM

Well, you can use it but it doesn't list Swedish retailers.
July 20, 2012 4:15:18 AM

It's a good build.
July 20, 2012 4:19:44 AM

FinneousPJ said:
It's a good build.


For how many years do you reckon i could use it ?

July 20, 2012 4:20:30 AM

Two years on relatively high settings.
July 20, 2012 4:23:24 AM

FinneousPJ said:
Two years on relatively high settings.


Would you please check your mail, i sent some questions, regarding buying in sweden.
July 20, 2012 10:09:58 AM

So, i went to that site, everything is cheaper, but i couldn't seem to find power supply.
Either way, i could always get that somewhere else.
Just wondering about the graphics card i choose, take a look.

http://www2.hardwareversand.de/basket.jsp
July 20, 2012 10:51:48 AM

I can't see your basket man it's saved in your cookies.
July 20, 2012 12:05:21 PM



Weird, either way, what i have in the basket.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Box, LGA1155 £215,78
RAM: 8GB-Kit G-Skill RipJaws PC3-12800U CL9 £45,89
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 £65,87
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z77X-D3H, Intel Z77, ATX £129,53
HD: Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s £77,85
Graphics Card:XFX BLACK DD RADEON 7850 975M 2GB D5 2x mDP HDMI 2x DVI £244

Total Cost £779



Basket : http://www2.hardwareversand.de/basket.jsp

I know im missing the power supply.

Either way the budget is about £1000, so add whatever you can to make the build stronger

Im guessing this is my final build :) 

July 20, 2012 12:43:27 PM

im pretty dam sure that you an pick up a asrock extreme4 for 109pounds. i can also pick up a asus 7850 for 186 pounds. not sure if these prices are relevant but since you are using british pounds.
July 20, 2012 1:16:43 PM

TheBigTroll said:
im pretty dam sure that you an pick up a asrock extreme4 for 109pounds. i can also pick up a asus 7850 for 186 pounds. not sure if these prices are relevant but since you are using british pounds.


The ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M, Sockel 1155, mATX goes for £111,17
The ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Sockel 1155, ATX goes for £130,55

Do i skip the one i have chosen, and go with one of these.
If so, which one ?

Thx
!