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May 25, 2012 10:13:39 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Next week or 2 BUDGET RANGE: 300$ CAD Before Rebates

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: BF3, Diablo 3 and Movies

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: LOL Intel HD 3000 from my I7-2600k, PSU NZXT 650W

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: Asus P8Z68-v Gen3, I7-2600K 4.5GHz, Corsair 1600Mhz 16gb, Case NZXT phantom Full tower 200mm top fan 140mm front intake 120mm outback exhaust 2x120mm side for intake

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.ca, Canadacomputers.com COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Canada

PARTS PREFERENCES: Nvidia physx, CUDA

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE:No Except if it can handle 650watts.. maybe will consider[/i]

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Wants to run Bf3 on Ultra settings if possible, Diablo full high settings, need to have a good cooling tempeture. Lifetime warranty if possible. Makes EVGA, Asus others if good explained

im also considering these following cards:

EVGA 012-P3-2068-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 448 Cores Classified 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

EVGA 01G-P3-1556-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) FPB 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card in SLI maybe

ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII TOP/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

EVGA 012-P3-1578-RX GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

If more suggestion im open also.

pls i need help to chose and get better knowledge of what would be ideal for me

thank you for your time

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a b U Graphics card
May 26, 2012 12:51:56 AM

Throw the 550ti out of your choices. That slims it down a bit, it's not a gaming card, but it is a great card if you do Folding@home.

That 560ti 448 Cores is a great card, but it's out of stock now and it's not coming back - that GPU was a limited edition run. So throw that out too.

That 570 is the best card, even if it is refurbished. Would give you the best performance. However, you won't be playing BF3 at Ultra.

You won't hit Ultra on BF3 with a $300 budget, but the 570 should handle High with good framerate.
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May 26, 2012 1:15:40 AM

you can get a hd 7870 for 39 $ more. But the thing is u only wanna play bf3????? then get a gtx 570, can run bf3 smoothly, or a 7850 i too have it.
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a b U Graphics card
May 26, 2012 1:25:55 AM

Wow. Color me impressed then. I didn't know the 570 could hit 40 FPS at Ultra on BF3.
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May 26, 2012 1:27:48 AM

natthewu said:
GET RID OF THE POWERSUPPLY!!!

any NZXT psu will make you regret purchasing it when it dies and kills everything.

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

I'm getting the 7850 that's a great deal and i think ncix.com still has the 7850 msi twin frozr which are one of the best.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=70852&vpn=R7850%20Twin%20...

How are all NZXT power supplies bad?
Their Hale90+ series are based off of a very good Superflower platform, got a 9/10 on Jonnyguru, and a golden award on Hardware secrets (Note: not saying that OP's PSU is good or not as they do not state if it is the 90+ or the 82+).

As far as your question, I agree with the other poster(s) that of the cards you listed the 570 would be the best choice, but why refurbished as a new one is cheaper.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... -- EVGA with lifetime warranty.
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a b U Graphics card
May 26, 2012 1:28:54 AM

It recommends Ultra for my 560 Ti SLI, but with only 1Gb of Vram I keep it a mix of high and ultra.
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a b U Graphics card
May 26, 2012 1:30:20 AM

I went with Battlefield 3 on PS3 so I just rely on benchmarks and other sites to give me info for BF3. So sometimes I'm wrong :) 
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May 26, 2012 2:04:16 AM

Jedi Mind Trick said:
How are all NZXT power supplies bad?
Their Hale90+ series are based off of a very good Superflower platform, got a 9/10 on Jonnyguru, and a golden award on Hardware secrets (Note: not saying that OP's PSU is good or not as they do not state if it is the 90+ or the 82+).

As far as your question, I agree with the other poster(s) that of the cards you listed the 570 would be the best choice, but why refurbished as a new one is cheaper.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... -- EVGA with lifetime warranty.


For my PSU. i have a 82+ series. boutght it for 69.99 new.. at time nothing could beat the good price and from reviews it stand up a good fight.

for the graphic cars I'M more looking to stand with Nvidia since BF3 Teat are mostly done with Nvidia chips. not to diavantage AMD.

and the 570 you listed JEDI MIND sound like a good deal.. but in your opinion.. is shipping a GPU good?.. i dont want it to have DOA. . but on Newegg do have a good deal for it.. :( 

anyways pls keep posting to help me decide on harder choices lol

ty
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a b U Graphics card
May 26, 2012 3:18:42 AM

Vettedude said:
Throw the 550ti out of your choices. That slims it down a bit, it's not a gaming card, but it is a great card if you do Folding@home.

That 560ti 448 Cores is a great card, but it's out of stock now and it's not coming back - that GPU was a limited edition run. So throw that out too.

That 570 is the best card, even if it is refurbished. Would give you the best performance. However, you won't be playing BF3 at Ultra.

You won't hit Ultra on BF3 with a $300 budget, but the 570 should handle High with good framerate.


I found some 560ti 448 cores here

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-N560GTX-Ti-448-Twin-Frozr-I...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-ZT-50313-10M-GeForce-GTX-... <----This is the best deal its only $190 Refurbished !!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-GeForce-GTX-560-Ti-448Core...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-560-Ti-448Core...
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a c 143 U Graphics card
May 26, 2012 3:28:09 AM

As stated above, no serious problem at all with your PSU, and Hale 90 PSUs are the top out there.

And the best performer from those would be the GTX 570, will be very sufficient to play BF3 @ ultra 1080P and will be overkill for Diablo III.
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and the 570 you listed JEDI MIND sound like a good deal.

What GPU? the EVGA? what is the good deal about it? the TF II runs cooler and is Factory OCed higher with the same price.
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a c 143 U Graphics card
May 26, 2012 3:31:38 AM

Vettedude said:
That 570 is the best card. Would give you the best performance. However, you won't be playing BF3 at Ultra.

You won't hit Ultra on BF3 with a $300 budget, but the 570 should handle High with good framerate.

What? :o  :pfff: 

50 FPS doesn't make a game playable and very smooth? With the MSI card OCed higher and with the drivers being optimized the 60 FPS is very easy to get.
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May 26, 2012 3:32:55 AM

I dont suggest the 448 core as it's a weaker(for lack of better word) 570.

I think 7850 is the best deal if you're going to spend 260.
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May 26, 2012 2:17:06 PM

ilysaml said:
As stated above, no serious problem at all with your PSU, and Hale 90 PSUs are the top out there.

And the best performer from those would be the GTX 570, will be very sufficient to play BF3 @ ultra 1080P and will be overkill for Diablo III.
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and the 570 you listed JEDI MIND sound like a good deal.

What GPU? the EVGA? what is the good deal about it? the TF II runs cooler and is Factory OCed higher with the same price.

I posted that one because the OP stated that he wanted an EVGA with a lifetime warranty if possible, that one looked like the cheapest one with a lifetime warranty.

@13shane13 I bought a new AMD 6850 and an open box Nvidia GTX 560 (non TI) from newegg (the former about 1.5 years ago and the latter about half a year ago) and both work flawlessly. I also bought a used 6870 from amazon that shipped with no box, which I admit looked pretty shady, but the card has also worked perfectly. I do not think that you will have any problems getting the GPU shipped to you and if there are problems, Newegg has very good customer service.
Also as ilysaml stated your PSU is fine.
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May 26, 2012 2:55:07 PM

Jedi Mind Trick said:
I posted that one because the OP stated that he wanted an EVGA with a lifetime warranty if possible, that one looked like the cheapest one with a lifetime warranty.

@13shane13 I bought a new AMD 6850 and an open box Nvidia GTX 560 (non TI) from newegg (the former about 1.5 years ago and the latter about half a year ago) and both work flawlessly. I also bought a used 6870 from amazon that shipped with no box, which I admit looked pretty shady, but the card has also worked perfectly. I do not think that you will have any problems getting the GPU shipped to you and if there are problems, Newegg has very good customer service.
Also as ilysaml stated your PSU is fine.



so lets say, that i chosed this two

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

and if we forget the Lifetime waranty.. witch one would be better.. does 256bit vs 320 bit make a difference?
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a c 143 U Graphics card
May 26, 2012 2:59:40 PM

GTX 570>GTX 560ti
About 15%-18% difference, and yes it's noticeable.
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May 26, 2012 4:07:24 PM

ilysaml said:
GTX 570>GTX 560ti
About 15%-18% difference, and yes it's noticeable.


^ What he said.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-radeon-hd-7850-and-78...
This is a 7870 review, but it shows the 570 getting 37 fps vs the 560ti's 28 fps (BF3 19x12 on ultra with 4xMSAA and DX11). Which is a big difference, as one is playable and the other is kind of playable.

Also the 570 is like $3 or so more than the 560ti you listed, unless you count the 2k11 game.
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a c 143 U Graphics card
May 26, 2012 4:57:25 PM

Don't you understand my post?
I stated that GTX 570 is faster than GTX 560ti with average performance boost of 18% to the GTX 570. Review my posts well.

So basically I recommend the GTX 570
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May 26, 2012 5:55:43 PM

My bad, I was completely agreeing with you, my post was backing up your claims for the OP.
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May 27, 2012 2:30:49 AM

thx for all the help guys.

my decision will be the GTX 570 EVGA.
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May 27, 2012 12:14:08 PM

Dont forget to give someone the best answer so the mods know this thread is over and can close it.
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May 27, 2012 4:48:00 PM

Best answer selected by 13shane13.
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a c 274 U Graphics card
May 27, 2012 6:24:42 PM

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