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I'm new to all this stuff and I thought I'd fool around with RAW images
to see what I could learn.

So... I've got my shiny new Nikon D50, a fresh sandisk 1 gig SD card and
the latest version of iPhoto.

I have the USB option set to PTP and I'm using a card reader.

iPhoto is still unable to load RAW images.

Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong?

TIA
Tom
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:32:33 +0100, tom@dfind.com (Tom Warner) wrote:

>I'm new to all this stuff and I thought I'd fool around with RAW images
>to see what I could learn.
>
>So... I've got my shiny new Nikon D50, a fresh sandisk 1 gig SD card and
>the latest version of iPhoto.
>
>I have the USB option set to PTP and I'm using a card reader.
>
>iPhoto is still unable to load RAW images.
>
>Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong?
>
>TIA
>Tom


Hi Tom,

If you're currently trying to load the images directly from the
SanDisk, try copying them first to the computer.

Regards,

Hal Lowe

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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:32:33 +0100, Tom Warner <tom@dfind.com> wrote:
> I'm new to all this stuff and I thought I'd fool around with RAW images
> to see what I could learn.
>
> So... I've got my shiny new Nikon D50, a fresh sandisk 1 gig SD card and
> the latest version of iPhoto.
>
> I have the USB option set to PTP and I'm using a card reader.
>
> iPhoto is still unable to load RAW images.
>
> Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong?

What version of the operating system are you using? Apple's RAW
converter is an OS-level library, and iPhoto taps into that rather than
having the capability built-in. I think it was added in 10.3.6 or
thereabouts. <flips through iPhoto help> Yep, 10.3.6.

The version can be determined by clicking on the Apple menu in the upper
right corner and selecting the 'About this Mac' option. If you're
running a recent version of 10.3, or any version of 10.4, then that's
not the answer to your problem. Otherwise, try updating the OS.

-dms

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Tom Warner wrote:

> Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong?

Failure to read a manual?

Failure to collect a raw image?

Given the dearth of data one can speculate endlessly. Thus my real
suggestion: your error is posting a question to a newsgroup, when you
should instead be calling technical support for one (or more) of the
products you are using...

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Daniel Silevitch <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote:

> The version can be determined by clicking on the Apple menu in the upper
> right corner and selecting the 'About this Mac' option. If you're
> running a recent version of 10.3, or any version of 10.4, then that's
> not the answer to your problem. Otherwise, try updating the OS.

Yeah, I've got the latest version 10.4.2.

Still trying

All the best,
Tom
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"Tom Warner" <tom@dfind.com> wrote in message
news:1h1g8k6.17y5t6xknprnkN%tom@dfind.com...
> I'm new to all this stuff and I thought I'd fool around with RAW images
> to see what I could learn.
>
> So... I've got my shiny new Nikon D50, a fresh sandisk 1 gig SD card and
> the latest version of iPhoto.
>
> I have the USB option set to PTP and I'm using a card reader.
>
> iPhoto is still unable to load RAW images.
>
> Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong?
Trying to use iPhoto?
Why not just buy a card reader and forget about all of those barely working
programs?
Jim
>
> TIA
> Tom
> --
> My ol' grandaddy taught me to always;
> post in plain text,
> quote only that portion to which you are replying,
> post replies at the bottom.

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In article <1h1g8k6.17y5t6xknprnkN%tom@dfind.com>,
tom@dfind.com (Tom Warner) wrote:

> So... I've got my shiny new Nikon D50, a fresh sandisk 1 gig SD card and
> the latest version of iPhoto.

What version of iPhoto do you have? Only version 5 can read RAW.
"Latest version" is no help. And make sure you have all the updates.

http://www.apple.com/ilife/iphoto/import.html

And if you are using windows I feel sorry for you.

Be more specific when you post complicated question in the future.

Oh, and look at this too:

Well, iPhoto does something sneaky when you import RAW images into your
iPhoto Library. It tucks away the original RAW file in a separate folder
and makes a JPEG copy of the file that shows up in your Library. Why is
this bad? Well, "when you edit a Raw image in iPhoto, you're actually
just editing the JPEG version, not the original. Thus, each edit you
make will likely impact the overall quality of the finished product."

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In article <1h1g8k6.17y5t6xknprnkN%tom@dfind.com>, Tom Warner
<tom@dfind.com> wrote:

> iPhoto is still unable to load RAW images.
>
> Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong?

The D50 is just out. So my guess is that it is not yet supported. I
have both a Canon 10D and a Canon Rebal XT. It does the 10D but not the
XT. Not yet supported. RAW is not a standard, every camera company does
it different and even different on their own different models.

--
Charles

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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:12:20 +0100, Tom Warner <tom@dfind.com> wrote:
> Daniel Silevitch <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
>> The version can be determined by clicking on the Apple menu in the upper
>> right corner and selecting the 'About this Mac' option. If you're
>> running a recent version of 10.3, or any version of 10.4, then that's
>> not the answer to your problem. Otherwise, try updating the OS.
>
> Yeah, I've got the latest version 10.4.2.
>
> Still trying

So much for that theory. Another possibility is that the RAW format of
your D50 isn't supported by the Apple converter. According to
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300884
the Nikons supported are the D100, D2H, D70 and Coolpix 8700. If the D50
uses the same format as one of the cameras on the list (anyone know?),
you have a chance, otherwise, you either need to use a separate
converter or wait for Apple to issue an update.

-dms

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Charles <fort514@mac.com> wrote:

> RAW is not a standard, every camera company does
> it different and even different on their own different models.

Thanks, that's very helpful and I'm beginning to understand now.

It's not important (I'm importing into PSE 3) but, I was curious when
iPhoto didn't 'just work'.

All the best,
Tom
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Daniel Silevitch <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote:

> the Nikons supported are the D100, D2H, D70 and Coolpix 8700. If the D50
> uses the same format as one of the cameras on the list (anyone know?),
> you have a chance, otherwise, you either need to use a separate
> converter or wait for Apple to issue an update.

I really didn't want to believe that iPhoto would distinguish between a
D70 RAW and a D50 RAW but, apparently it does.

Not to worry,it's a curiosity more than a problem.

Thanks for your help,

All the best,
Tom
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Tom Warner <tom@dfind.com> wrote:
> I really didn't want to believe that iPhoto would distinguish between a
> D70 RAW and a D50 RAW but, apparently it does.

Tom,

According to the review sites, the formats are different: the D50 uses
uncompressed NEF while the D70 is compressed.

Not a big difference, but if iPhoto's not written to distinguish them...

I'd guess that an update will soon appear to resolve the issue.

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Tom Warner <tom@dfind.com> wrote:

> Daniel Silevitch <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
> > the Nikons supported are the D100, D2H, D70 and Coolpix 8700. If the D50
> > uses the same format as one of the cameras on the list (anyone know?),
> > you have a chance, otherwise, you either need to use a separate
> > converter or wait for Apple to issue an update.
>
> I really didn't want to believe that iPhoto would distinguish between a
> D70 RAW and a D50 RAW but, apparently it does.
>
> Not to worry,it's a curiosity more than a problem.

IIRC, iPhoto's RAW support amounts to knowing it can convert them to
JPEGs, and then doing just that when you open one. I'm pretty sure it
doesn't let you tweak the image it shows you, and just makes a JPEG for
you to edit.

I might be a version or two behind with this info, but that's the
principle reason I didn't buy iLife way back when, and now I don't
really care that much, since I have iView Media Pro and Photoshop.

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In article <1h1g8k6.17y5t6xknprnkN%tom@dfind.com>,
Tom Warner <tom@dfind.com> wrote:
>
>Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong?

Yes, you're using iPhoto.

Seriously though - compared to the other software that Apple ship with their
machines, I've found iPhoto to be a real letdown. It slows down to a crawl
if you give it anything other than a small workload to deal with, has a bad
habit of corrupting its database, and is needlessly capricious in its use of
disk space.

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Tom Warner <tom@dfind.com> wrote:

> I'm new to all this stuff and I thought I'd fool around with RAW images
> to see what I could learn.
>
> So... I've got my shiny new Nikon D50, a fresh sandisk 1 gig SD card and
> the latest version of iPhoto.
>
> I have the USB option set to PTP and I'm using a card reader.
>
> iPhoto is still unable to load RAW images.
>
> Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong?
>
> TIA
> Tom

looking up the thread, i know your using tiger (10.4) but what version
of iphoto do you have? only iphoto5 supports RAW files though the list
of supported cameras doesn't incude yours.

Roger

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