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Amd 8350 vs lga 2011 3820 for gaming

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December 1, 2012 4:10:51 PM

i'm looking to replace a Q9550 / asus rampage extreme built in 2008.
i have a evga 560 ti 448 core 1280 mb video card
4 x 2gb 1600 cas 7 corsair dominator gt memory
antec true power quattro 850 psu
i would prefer to only upgrade mobo / proc for cost issues and reuse the video card, memory, and psu.
i am having a difficult time deciding on lga1155, lga2011, or amd fx mobo
and the cpu for each to use.
i need to keep the cost of the combo under $500
and is it possible to reuse the zalmann round copper heatsink (i think its 9700) on each of those other sockets?

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December 1, 2012 4:21:13 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This would be the best option for you to choose.

4GB of RAM is not enough now days, and RAM is DIRT CHEAP.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$35 for twice the RAM.

The Zalman CNPS9700 is still a great cooler, but I am not sure if you will need a special bracket or not for the socket. I am still using the CNPS9700 myself with my I7-930.

Worst case, you can just purchase a Hyper 212 EVO which is $24. If you need to buy a bracket for the CNPS9700 then you might as well pay $10 more for a new cooler.

Your PSU and Video card are still good, however the video card has 1280Mb of VRAM. In the future this will become its limiting factor, and you can not add another 560ti down the road because VRAM does not add together, it is mirrored. Just a heads up there!
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December 1, 2012 4:22:38 PM

scott-d said:
i'm looking to replace a Q9550 / asus rampage extreme built in 2008.
i have a evga 560 ti 448 core 1280 mb video card
4 x 2gb 1600 cas 7 corsair dominator gt memory
antec true power quattro 850 psu
i would prefer to only upgrade mobo / proc for cost issues and reuse the video card, memory, and psu.
i am having a difficult time deciding on lga1155, lga2011, or amd fx mobo
and the cpu for each to use.
i need to keep the cost of the combo under $500
and is it possible to reuse the zalmann round copper heatsink (i think its 9700) on each of those other sockets?




For gaming a 1155 z77 with a 3570k hands down.


That zalman if it is the 9700 is 1556/1555/775 compatible, look in the box to make sure.
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December 1, 2012 4:28:56 PM

Yeah i5.
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December 1, 2012 4:28:57 PM

antonisrsx said:
for gaming get the i5 3570k and you ll be fine!
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclo...
and with the rest of your money (if you want to spend them all) maybe you can find another gtx 560 ti 448 and sli or sell your current GPU and buy a better one!


Unfortunately SLI'ing his 560ti for extra performance is not an option.
The 1280MB of VRAM will become the limiting factor in the future before the cards computational power does. SLI mirrors the memory, so there would be little to no gain.
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December 1, 2012 4:40:18 PM

azathoth said:
Unfortunately SLI'ing his 560ti for extra performance is not an option.
The 1280MB of VRAM will become the limiting factor in the future before the cards computational power does. SLI mirrors the memory, so there would be little to no gain.

you are right but it depends on what resolution is he gaming and what games is he playing! today most games dont even use more than 1gb!
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December 1, 2012 4:57:21 PM

azathoth said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This would be the best option for you to choose.

4GB of RAM is not enough now days, and RAM is DIRT CHEAP.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$35 for twice the RAM.

The Zalman CNPS9700 is still a great cooler, but I am not sure if you will need a special bracket or not for the socket. I am still using the CNPS9700 myself with my I7-930.

Worst case, you can just purchase a Hyper 212 EVO which is $24. If you need to buy a bracket for the CNPS9700 then you might as well pay $10 more for a new cooler.

Your PSU and Video card are still good, however the video card has 1280Mb of VRAM. In the future this will become its limiting factor, and you can not add another 560ti down the road because VRAM does not add together, it is mirrored. Just a heads up there!


thanks for helping!

8GB total ram (4 - 2gb sticks)
and i might as well get a new cooler, leave it on the old mobo combo for another usable system to be built for browsing or light gaming
but i will have to suffer with the video card and system ram until get more cash....lol
i5-3570k is $215, i7-3770k is $330on newegg now... appears only major difference is 4 threads vs 8 threads... not sure if that even matters in high level gaming?
so i guess i will go with a 1155 mobo/proc/cooler setup
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December 1, 2012 4:59:36 PM

antonisrsx said:
you are right but it depends on what resolution is he gaming and what games is he playing! today most games dont even use more than 1gb!



mainly 1st person shooters... bf3 now
in 1900x1280 as high as quality as possible without lagging frames
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December 1, 2012 5:19:30 PM

Kamen_BG said:
Well... for battlefield 3 Multiplayer the Core i7 is quite a bit faster than a Core i5.And if you're on a budget a FX 8 core would be fine too.

http://www.sweclockers.com/image/diagram/2506?k=142b45a...



i was looking at fx 8350 for $199, gigabyte 990fx ud7 mobo for $195...
i would have to get a cooler for cpu also...
and reuse everything else for now.
thanks, i was asking for opinions for each mobo (990fx, 1155 & 2011)

i wonder how different the results are for the new fx8350 to 3770k 4 thread or 3570k 8 thread?
the i5-3470 3.2 quad has beaten all these chips... wow $199 on newegg now
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-rev...
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December 1, 2012 5:26:42 PM

No need for a $200 mobo...
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December 1, 2012 5:27:39 PM

sorry correction,
3770k 3.5 is 8 thread for $330
3570k 3.4 is 4 thread for $215
3470 3.2 is 4 thread for $199
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December 1, 2012 6:20:00 PM

ok so now i am seeing that some people have problems with mobos not being compatible with 3rd gen intel procs, i have found the intel support site has 4 different mobos for that proc family in z77 platform
http://processormatch.intel.com/COMPDB/SearchResult.asp...
do i have to go to each manufacturer site to find compatible mobos that are available?
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December 1, 2012 6:25:19 PM

If there is a FPS difference less than 5%, chances are its just luck.People can't make every replay exactly the same.
So in real life, in Battlefield 3 Singleplayer there will be absolutely NO difference between these processors.

And uhh for gaming (overall) Intel's processors are considerably better than AMD's.
The thing is that AMD's CPU's are geared for heavily multithreaded tasks and that's why they've got so much cores while Intel's CPU's perform better per core, so if the games you'll be playing can use no more than 4 cores, then Intel's CPU's will always win.

Just buy those two and im sure you'll be very pleased with the performance you get.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 1, 2012 7:06:07 PM

Kamen_BG said:
If there is a FPS difference less than 5%, chances are its just luck.People can't make every replay exactly the same.
So in real life, in Battlefield 3 Singleplayer there will be absolutely NO difference between these processors.

And uhh for gaming (overall) Intel's processors are considerably better than AMD's.
The thing is that AMD's CPU's are geared for heavily multithreaded tasks and that's why they've got so much cores while Intel's CPU's perform better per core, so if the games you'll be playing can use no more than 4 cores, then Intel's CPU's will always win.

Just buy those two and im sure you'll be very pleased with the performance you get.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


ok thats good to know about threading and gaming... i will go with intel then...
and what you are saying is that the 3770k would really only have a slight improvement in gaming,
but not enough to warrant the extra $115 in cost?
but are all z77 mobos compatible to 3rd gen procs?
i wish that newegg filtering would update this change.
that choice is not quite correct yet in the options filter.

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December 1, 2012 7:39:24 PM

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K $215

EVGA Z77 FTW 151-IB-E699-KR LGA 1155 Intel Z77 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard $210 after rebates, reg price $330

$425 for solid setup

still need to get a cooler for this when building it...

thanks everyone for the help and advice!!
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December 1, 2012 7:48:25 PM

Best answer selected by scott-d.
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December 1, 2012 8:17:15 PM

Why such an expensive mobo?
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December 2, 2012 3:24:33 AM

FinneousPJ said:
Why such an expensive mobo?


well i picked the cheapest extended atx format board. i just prefer bigger mobo for expansion in future. it just so happens that is one of better cards at a very great discount price. it also has won many awards for being a good card.
and it also got really good reviews on newegg. my asus rampage extreme was $400 when i got it in 2008. i put alot of decision making on other people opinions on products and also look to very good deals on products. this mobo was winner in both high value and high rating of preference by buyers on newegg.
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December 2, 2012 8:23:21 AM

There's absolutely no point buying that board unless you're doing 4 way SLI.
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