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July 21, 2012 5:41:11 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: i would like to get it within the next 2 months before summer ends

Budget Range: Under $1500 in total

System Usage from Most to Least Important:

Are you buying a monitor: yes i will be upgrading my monitor but later on and not right away

Include the OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: ncix.com or tiger direct

Location: Ontario Canada (if i were to buy in store it would be from Canada computers)

Overclocking: Yes i would really like to start overclocking

SLI or Crossfire: maybe but not for awhile

Your Monitor Resolution: right now i have a monitor that is 1600x900 DVI but i will most likely but upgrading to 1920x1080 hdmi

CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K

CPU cooler: I don't know if i should get a Corsair Hydro Series H60 or heatsink and fan? what would you recommend for overclocking?
Mobo: Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB 3.5IN 16MB Cache SATA3

SSD: OCZ (VTX3-25SAT3-120G) Vertex 3 2.5" 120GB

GPU: Radeon Hd 7950 (I dont know what brand to get, most likely one for a good price though)

Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B Black SATA DVD Writer 24x

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT

Case: Coolermaster HAF XM ATX Mid Tower Case

Wireless network card: TP-LINK TL-WN851ND, 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter

PSU: ??? I'm not sure of what power supply is needed or if i should go modular or not. please give me some insight to this thanks.
Are all these parts compatible?? And if you could see some changes please help me and thanks!

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July 21, 2012 8:14:14 PM

I wouldn't mess with any of the corsair all in ones. People are having to RMA alot of them. They're fairly problematic and not too much better than a top notch air cooler. Try something like this...

Noctua NH-D14 LGA1155/1156/1366/AM3 I7/I5/PHENOM Heatpipe Cooler w/ NF-P14 140mm & NF-P12 120mm Fan
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=47090&vpn=NH-D14&manuf...

Or this...

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=64385&vpn=RR-212E-20PK...

I'd recommend that you get RAM without tall heatspreaders. This way it won't interfere with your heatsink. Try something like this...

G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR Sniper SE 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 1.5V Memory Kit
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=59975&vpn=F3-12800CL9D...

Storage looks good.

I typically go with GPUs with custom coolers like this...
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 Windforce
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=67546&vpn=GV-R795WF3-3...

Or if you want more power, I'd go with this...

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 OC
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=71107&vpn=GV-N670OC-2G...

Power supply:

PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=55515&promoid=1382

Or...

Corsair Enthusiast Series TX750M 750W
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=62826&vpn=CP-9020003-N...

Oh, and there's tons of cases. Not sure if you're absolutely stuck on the haf case. But you can try cases like this too...

Coolermaster HAF 922
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=38996&vpn=RC-922M-KKN1...

Corsair Carbide Series 400R
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=61928&vpn=CC-9011011-W...

Corsair Vengeance Series C70
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=70457&vpn=CC-9011019-W...

Antec 900
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=33861E22&vpn=NINE%20HU...

Antec Eleven Hundred Performance Gaming Case
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=65171&vpn=ELEVEN%20HUN...

Everything else looks good. Just pick and choose what you like, then make sure it fits your budget. Hope this helps. Good luck! :) 
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July 22, 2012 12:44:39 AM
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July 22, 2012 1:38:57 AM



Sadly, the FX 8150 sucks for gaming. Either the 2500k or 3570k would run circles around that processor in every benchmark and game out there. No need to put a AMD processor in a $1500 gaming build. :non:  For $1200-1300 you can get an i5 and a gtx 670. :lol: 
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July 22, 2012 1:52:53 AM

DeusAres said:
Sadly, the FX 8150 sucks for gaming. Either the 2500k or 3570k would run circles around that processor in every benchmark and game out there. No need to put a AMD processor in a $1500 gaming build. :non:  For $1200-1300 you can get an i5 and a gtx 670. :lol: 

Name one game the 8150 cant run full steam ahead?
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July 22, 2012 2:13:00 AM

JefferyD90 said:
Name one game the 8150 cant run full steam ahead?


Easy enough...Skyrim.

But that's clearly not the point I'm trying to make here. Games will suffer from a significant performance loss using the FX 8150. Games don't fully utilize those 8 cores. It's pointless really.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-7-hotfix-bu...

Just look at the above benchmark. Sure, the fx 8150 can run games, but not at an optimal level. Besides, if I'm gonna pay $200 for a processor, I may as well get the one that's gonna perform the best in the applications I'll be running. Why bottleneck the performance when the budget allows for better such as the i5?
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July 22, 2012 7:03:57 AM

DeusAres said:
Easy enough...Skyrim.

But that's clearly not the point I'm trying to make here. Games will suffer from a significant performance loss using the FX 8150. Games don't fully utilize those 8 cores. It's pointless really.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-7-hotfix-bu...

Just look at the above benchmark. Sure, the fx 8150 can run games, but not at an optimal level. Besides, if I'm gonna pay $200 for a processor, I may as well get the one that's gonna perform the best in the applications I'll be running. Why bottleneck the performance when the budget allows for better such as the i5?

What? Skyrim? Its honestly not even that intensive of a game? are you even for real?
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July 22, 2012 7:11:38 AM

Just stop denying the facts. In every thread, you try so hard to prove yourself and it never works.
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July 22, 2012 7:29:42 AM

azeem40 said:
Just stop denying the facts. In every thread, you try so hard to prove yourself and it never works.

So I guess thats why you follow me around on more than half the thread I post on? Its like someone cant leave me alone :p 
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July 22, 2012 5:35:33 PM

JefferyD90 said:
So I guess thats why you follow me around on more than half the thread I post on? Its like someone cant leave me alone :p 


No, some people just can't quit spreading false propaganda. Bottom line...FX processors DO NOT perform well in gaming. I give you a link containing proof and you still deny the obvious.

And if Skyrim isn't that intensive of a game, then why is the FX 8150 (8 core processor) getting it's ass handed to it by an i5 2500k (quad core)? ....Not to mention, the 2500k is much older than the FX processors.
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July 23, 2012 6:09:31 AM

Look, Skyrim runs GREAT on my PC, and its just a 1075T and I know the 6core bulldozer performs better than mine does. I get at least 60fps+. I don’t run FRAPS all the time but when I do I never see it dip below 50, and mind you I don’t run mine overclocked...

Another thing, for every benchmark you have to down a product (AMD or Intel or whatever company you desire) there is one to bring it up. Also note that the benchmarks you showed have the FX running at practically the same frame rates no matter what the settings are, ever heard of frame limits.
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July 23, 2012 7:52:26 AM

Actually, there's benchmarks out there that show the phenom processors outdoing the new FX processors.

This kid is truly in denial. And if there's benchmarks in the FX 8150s favor, I'd love to see 'em. And not by just 1 or 2 frames. That proves nothing.

And that's not "frame limits" bud. That's called a bottleneck. In this case, it's a CPU bottleneck. Skyrim is fairly CPU intensive. It's rather sad when an older quad core beats out an "8 core".

Also, just because YOU have an AMD based system, not everyone else wants a system like yours. I would honestly love to see AMD outdo intel. Their pricing is much more fair. AMD also had a good thing going for 'em when they released the phenom IIs. The FX line of CPUs, however, was just a big flop.

One more point and I'm going to attempt to ignore your biased replies for the night...No one in their right mind is going to put an AMD CPU in a $1500 gaming build. Like I stated above, if I can get an i5 3570k and a gtx 670 based build for $1200, why the hell would I throw sub-par components in my system for a total of $1500? Even the GPU you recommended is a ton weaker than the gtx 670. I just don't understand. Please tell me you're trolling and this is just a huge prank...
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