AMD 8350 vs i5 3570k vs 3770k

[hbeduryan818]

This rig will be used for minor gaming (paired with a 7950) video rendering alot of special effects to videos also and the regular email checking browisng ect. Best choice prices on amazon as of now; 8350: 199.99 3570k: 219.99 3770k: 319.99 and i walso want the chpice to upgrade to next gen i have that choice with amd since steamroller will be am3+ confirmed by amd

 

[rainbueza]

go for the 8350.. it is good for gaming and has a lot of improvement from its younger brother 8150..

 

[goodguy713]

well intel dose have quick sync but multi core rendering makes a difference considering your looking for a budget build i would say go with the amd as well other wise go with a 3930k

 

[unksol]

Id go AMD. My phenom II still has no issues with modern games/BF3. Bulldozer was out of the question but piledriver isn't bad. Still waiting for steamroller though

 

[Kamen_BG]

Well... the FX 8350 is quite a bit cheeper than the 3770K and will provide you with almost equal performance overall and you'll save quite a bit of money.

But if you can afford it, the best choice by far will be the Core i7 3820.It's about 2% slower than a 3770K but it uses the LGA 2011 platform which ensures you'll have an amazing upgrade path to Ivy Bridge-E 6 and 8 core processors.


I'll just list you three combinations of CPU's and moterboards which i recommend.

AMD FX 8320 system
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YU56/?tag=pcpapi-20

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104361&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130620&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Note that the FX 8320 is slower than the FX 8350 at stock, but since they're basicly the same CPU, you can clock the FX 8320 to 4GHZ and you'll get the same performance.


Intel Core i7 3820 system

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YM9JSW/?tag=pcpapi-20

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157289&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233198&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

I know this system is a lot more expensive but if you really want a good upgrade path and you can afford it why not

 

[fazers_on_stun]

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/8

Conclusion
AMD has done a lot to improve the FX-8350 considering the lack of usual CPU architecture improvements. With no change in die size, TDP or production process, its managed to squeeze up to 15 per cent more performance out of this chip, all whilst lowering power consumption making overclocking incredibly simple and shipping the chip at much more competitive £150 price point. In these regards, we are thoroughly impressed, and it's fair to say this is a much better offering than the FX-8150 of 12 months ago.

However, the overall result, while not as disheartening as the FX-8150, is still a distant second to Intel’s Core i5-3570K and associated Ivy Bridge architecture. It doesn't so much change the status quo as reinforce it.

AMD remains deeply uncompetitive in primarily single threaded applications such as games without offering the significant benefits in multi-threaded applications you’d expect from a chip boasting eight cores. Peak power consumption remains higher than Intel too and it’s these fundamental issues that mean the FX-8350 just isn’t a competitive CPU. Despite the drop in price, there’s almost no reason to opt for the FX-8350 in comparison to the Intel competition; it seems that while AMD’s changed lots of little things about the FX-8350, the end result remains largely the same

 

[Guest]

Wow loads of AMD recommendations.

Personally, the 3570k is the best value for money, providing heaps of performance for the best price. It knocks the AMD chip for six.

Best upgrade for the future is LGA 2011 when 8 core are cheap for you to buy. I would now at this point not buy AMD for High End Use, only budget machines as that is what they are!

 

[burntpizza]

Wow loads of AMD recommendations.

Personally, the 3570k is the best value for money, providing heaps of performance for the best price. It knocks the AMD chip for six.

Best upgrade for the future is LGA 2011 when 8 core are cheap for you to buy. I would now at this point not buy AMD for High End Use, only budget machines as that is what they are!

Hes doing video rendering. Thats one part where i5 can't touch FX-8350, and 8350 isn't even far off from i5 in most high res gaming

 

[hbeduryan818]

Hes doing video rendering. Thats one part where i5 can't touch FX-8350, and 8350 isn't even far off from i5 in most high res gaming

+1

 

[rds1220]

Wow loads of AMD recommendations.

Personally, the 3570k is the best value for money, providing heaps of performance for the best price. It knocks the AMD chip for six.

Best upgrade for the future is LGA 2011 when 8 core are cheap for you to buy. I would now at this point not buy AMD for High End Use, only budget machines as that is what they are!

I agree I would go with the 3570K.

 

[hbeduryan818]

I agree I would go with the 3570K.

3570k is no where near future proof as the 8350. Its either 3820 or 8350

 

[hbeduryan818]

Well... the FX 8350 is quite a bit cheeper than the 3770K and will provide you with almost equal performance overall and you'll save quite a bit of money.

But if you can afford it, the best choice by far will be the Core i7 3820.It's about 2% slower than a 3770K but it uses the LGA 2011 platform which ensures you'll have an amazing upgrade path to Ivy Bridge-E 6 and 8 core processors.


I'll just list you three combinations of CPU's and moterboards which i recommend.

AMD FX 8320 system
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YU56/?tag=pcpapi-20

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104361&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130620&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Note that the FX 8320 is slower than the FX 8350 at stock, but since they're basicly the same CPU, you can clock the FX 8320 to 4GHZ and you'll get the same performance.


Intel Core i7 3820 system

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YM9JSW/?tag=pcpapi-20

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157289&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233198&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

I know this system is a lot more expensive but if you really want a good upgrade path and you can afford it why not

Just looked at anandbenchmarks theres a marginal increase of 3770k to 8350 but not worth 100 imo. On the ither hand the 3820 has a very slight upgrade for the 8359 but adding $50 for the quality mobo doesnt buy me out. Having the isurance that steamroller and possible exevecator will be on am3+ buys me out.

 

[rds1220]

3570k is no where near future proof as the 8350. Its either 3820 or 8350

That is completely asinine. There is no such thing as future proofing. No CPU or GPU is future proof as soon as you buy it the value goes down and within 12 to 18 months will be old. In 2 to 3 years it will be completely obsolete. If you buy hardware on the idea that it is future proof then you are kidding yourself. The fact is the I7 cost more but still out performs the Bulldozer and Piledriver in single threaded programs and most heavy threaded programs. The I7 is faster and more efficient than the Bulldozer or Piledriver.

 

[hbeduryan818]

That is completely asinine. There is no such thing as future proofing. No CPU or GPU is future proof as soon as you buy it the value goes down and within 12 to 18 months will be old. In 2 to 3 years it will be completely obsolete. If you buy hardware on the idea that it is future proof then you are kidding yourself. The fact is the I7 cost more but still out performs the Bulldozer and Piledriver in single threaded programs and most heavy threaded programs. The I7 is faster and more efficient than the Bulldozer or Piledriver.

Ok so youre telling me the 3570k will be more powerful than the 8350? If so thats completely assanine. No one really cares about efficiency and i can gurantee you i dont. You want efficiency turn off the lights when youre not using them. In 1 year time the 3570k will be onselete to the 8350 when multi threaded software starts rising. 3570k dowsnt even have a slight advantage right now performance is equal. Who cares about benchmarks? When you nptice real world lag thats when you decide which cpu is better.

 

[rds1220]

Ok so youre telling me the 3570k will be more powerful than the 8350? If so thats completely assanine. No one really cares about efficiency and i can gurantee you i dont. You want efficiency turn off the lights when youre not using them. In 1 year time the 3570k will be onselete to the 8350 when multi threaded software starts rising. 3570k dowsnt even have a slight advantage right now performance is equal. Who cares about benchmarks? When you nptice real world lag thats when you decide which cpu is better.

I really think you need to go and do some reading and research because you don't know what you are talking about. Yes I7 is more powerful and faster than both the Bulldozer and Piledriver in MOST heavy threaded programs. No one cares about effciency huh, this just shows you don't know what you are talking about. Greater effciency means it can do heavy work loads faster which means faster run times. The Ivy Bridges I7 has a better IPC allowing it to do more work per clock cycle. Everything else you said is just fanboy crap trying to justify your buying a Piledriver. Like I said the No CPU or GPU is future proof as soon as you buy it the value goes down and within 12 to 18 months will be old. In 2 to 3 years it will be completely obsolete. If you buy hardware on the idea that it is future proof then you are kidding yourself. While things are becoming more CPU heavy we aren't at that point yet and we aren't going to be anytime soon. Programs are just starting to use all four cores and still at that it's only a handful of programs. By the time we hit that point the Bulldozer and Piledriver will be obsolete.

 

[earl45]

Ok so youre telling me the 3570k will be more powerful than the 8350? If so thats completely assanine. No one really cares about efficiency and i can gurantee you i dont. You want efficiency turn off the lights when youre not using them. In 1 year time the 3570k will be onselete to the 8350 when multi threaded software starts rising. 3570k dowsnt even have a slight advantage right now performance is equal. Who cares about benchmarks? When you nptice real world lag thats when you decide which cpu is better.

You're the kind of person that is still waiting for Windows 8 to make your AMD CPU shine'
How is that working out for you?

 

[rds1220]

You're the kind of person that is still waiting for Windows 8 to make your AMD CPU shine'
How is that working out for you?

Probably

 

[hbeduryan818]

You're the kind of person that is still waiting for Windows 8 to make your AMD CPU shine'
How is that working out for you?

it doesnt need windows 8 to shine it already shines against your quad i5.

 

[hbeduryan818]

Best answer selected by hbeduryan818.

 

[rds1220]

it doesnt need windows 8 to shine it already shines against your quad i5.

In heavily threaded programs yea but how about you compare it to the I7, which you have so convientley decided to side step time and time again. Why is that, is becuase you know your Piledriver will get beaten out by the I7. You are an AMD fanboy, you ignore the benchmarks and fair comparisons in an attempt to justify your buy. You're whole argument it like a pro athlete running in the special olympics then bragging how great he is. It isn't so great when you aren't competing in the same league.

 

[earl45]

In heavily threaded programs yea but how about you compare it to the I7, which you have so convientley decided to side step time and time again. Why is that, is becuase you know your Piledriver will get beaten out by the I7. You are an AMD fanboy, you ignore the benchmarks and fair comparisons in an attempt to justify your buy. You're whole argument it like a pro athlete running in the special olympics then bragging how great he is. It isn't so great when you aren't competing in the same league.

+1, I run Two machines one with the 2600k and the other with the 3770k, so his i5 comparisons
mean nothing to me.