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[Final Build] $1500 - $2000 Gaming Build, Need Advice Please

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July 21, 2012 7:52:30 PM

Hey,

I am looking for some final advice/recommendations on my build. I have bought everything and I'm just waiting a day until I piece it together so there is still plenty of time to make a change if it is of great benefit.

Approximate Purchase Date: Now
Budget Range: $1500 - $1800 CAD, After Rebates, After Shipping. Price does not included monitors.
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (not hardcore), watching movies, surfing the internet, general computing.
Are you buying a monitor: Yes, 2 x Dell UltraSharp U2412M or other suggested 24 inch. Price not included.
Parts to Upgrade: Everything
Do you need to buy OS: Yes, Windows 7 Home Premium x64 (64-bit) SP1 DVD - OEM from Memory Express.
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Memory Express (online or in store), Newegg.ca, Newegg.com, NCIX.com
Location: Canada
Parts Preferences: Intel CPU, open to most brands for all other parts.
Overclocking: Maybe, never done overclocking but thinking about a small overclock.
SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, might add another card in the future if the needed.
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200.
Additional Comments: I am looking for a very quite PC that is going in my bedroom. After reading a lot of reviews on Tom`s and selecting parts I find it hard to get these parts from Memory Express. If there are comparable parts that can be suggested from Memory Express please do. The reason I want to buy most parts from Memory Express is to allow me to haggle for their IPR Replacement Plan at reduced cost or best case for free.
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My current PC that I built in 2004 is a relic but still runs everything great except games. I`m looking for a computer that is mid to high end now and will perform good to great for the next few years.

[Final build unless a great change is recommended]

CPU: Core™ i5-3570K ($214.99 @ Memory Express, Price Beat)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Series Gold AX750 Power Supply ($154.99 @ Memory Express)
Hard Drive 1: Crucial M4 2.5in SATA III Solid State Drive, 256GB ($158.74 @ Memory Express, Price Beat)
Hard Drive 2: Western Digital 2TB Caviar Green ($109.99 @ Memory Express)
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 (64-bit) SP1 DVD - OEM ($88.74 @ Memory Express, Price Beat)
CPU Cooler:[/b] Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO ($27.49 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ($159.85 @ Memory Express)
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 550D Quiet Mid-Tower Case ($115.47 @ Memory Express)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Dual Channel Kit (2 x 4GB) ($50.79 @ Memory Express)
Video Card: ASUS HD7850 DirectCU II ($248.44 @ Memory Express)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST 12x Blu-Ray Writer, SATA, Black, Retail ($74.99 @ Memory Express)
Thermal Paste: Arctic Cooling MX-4 Premium Thermal Compound, 4g ($7.99 @ Memory Express)

Total: $1483.09 including GST

Grand Total: $1669.94 (includes IPR replacement plan from MX)

Buying a bit later:

Monitors: Dell UltraSharp U2412M (2 x at $289.99 each when they go on sale which is every couple weeks. Not included in budget.)
Other: Keyboard and Mouse will be bought at Memory Express or other retail store as to allow me to get a good feel for them and pick the one I like.

I thank everyone in advance for your input and thank you to everyone that has already helped me out.
July 21, 2012 8:12:50 PM

As far as the video cards go I used this gtx670:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
in my build and it has performed flawlessly, even better than advertised. They are all good choices, I just have a hard time paying extra for the 680 when a stock 670 is fairly close and the FTW (and a few others) come factory oc'd.
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July 21, 2012 8:56:52 PM

i5 3570k
hyper evo 212
MX-4 TIM
Gigabyte UD5H
Gigabyte WindForce 670
Corsair 400R
Corsair HX750
G.Skill 2133 8 GB kit
Keep the rest of your build the same

Now the reason I put in 2133 speed ram is because it can make a difference in games, there was an article about this (ivy bridge and memory speed)
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July 21, 2012 9:01:58 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.98 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe MX 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($437.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1318.63
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-07-21 17:01 EDT-0400)

Btw, the U2412M is on sale for $279 after promo code.

If it does not include monitors, this will be a lot cheaper.
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July 21, 2012 9:15:19 PM

I think you should heed everyone's advice and get a i5 instead of an i7.

The best SSDs right now are the Samsung 830 and the Crucial M4.

Personally, I'd stick to motherboards by Asus and Gigabyte on a high end system like this.

If you really care about noise check out silentpcreview.com.

They have lots of recomended parts. It probably matters the most with coolers and the case.
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July 21, 2012 10:03:54 PM

@ edtheguy, thanks for the advice on the GTX 670.

@ redeemer, I took a look at the Corsair HX750 and will probably switch to that and Memory Express has it on for $140 ATM. Do you happen to have the link for the article about memory timings and Ivy Bridge? Thanks for reminding me about thermal paste.

@azeem40, looking at the ASRock Extreme 4 and 6 I see they both support (x16/x8|x8/x8). Is there any difference I should look at between these two besides just a couple more bells on the 6? Also my budget does not included monitors and that $279 for the U2412M is awesome except Dell.com doesn't ship to Canada.

@ jsrudd, I never said anything about an i7, it's been i5 3570k the whole way. I agree with you on the SSD's but it seems a lot of people are raving about these Mushkin SSD's. Thanks for the heads up on silentpcreview.com.
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July 21, 2012 11:02:30 PM

How's this... http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cHFr

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master TPC 812 86.2 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($66.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77 WS ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($329.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Hard Drive: OCZ Colossus Plus Series 240GB 3.5" Solid State Disk ($291.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 2.5GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 2.5GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 850W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($152.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2020.90
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

You can save some $$ quick by changing the SSD to a smaller one
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July 21, 2012 11:41:08 PM

dingo07 said:
How's this... http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cHFr

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master TPC 812 86.2 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($66.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77 WS ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($329.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Hard Drive: OCZ Colossus Plus Series 240GB 3.5" Solid State Disk ($291.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 2.5GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 2.5GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 850W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($152.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2020.90
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

You can save some $$ quick by changing the SSD to a smaller one


Man that's one expensive motherboard, why the recommendation?

I've thought about 16GB of ram but a few other threads I've read say that it's overkill and wouldn't be used anyways.

As for the SSD, 240GB is awesome but I figured I'd start with 128GB for system drive and then if the need comes up I'd buy another and have one for system and apps with the other for games.

Not looking at SLI for now but in the past I was looking at 2 x 6950 but then read about the shuttering issue.

Thanks for the input.
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July 21, 2012 11:51:58 PM

Juice01 said:
Man that's one expensive motherboard, why the recommendation?

I've thought about 16GB of ram but a few other threads I've read say that it's overkill and wouldn't be used anyways.

As for the SSD, 240GB is awesome but I figured I'd start with 128GB for system drive and then if the need comes up I'd buy another and have one for system and apps with the other for games.

Not looking at SLI for now but in the past I was looking at 2 x 6950 but then read about the shuttering issue.

Thanks for the input.


The motherboard allows SLI at x16 for each card, most other mb's only do x8/x8

more memory is always better for multitasking, and it doesn't break the bank

Yeah, I just figure I'd throw in a bigger SSD for the heck of it - you can still get a couple games on a smaller one
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July 22, 2012 12:56:41 AM

Juice01 said:
@ edtheguy, thanks for the advice on the GTX 670.

@ redeemer, I took a look at the Corsair HX750 and will probably switch to that and Memory Express has it on for $140 ATM. Do you happen to have the link for the article about memory timings and Ivy Bridge? Thanks for reminding me about thermal paste.

@azeem40, looking at the ASRock Extreme 4 and 6 I see they both support (x16/x8|x8/x8). Is there any difference I should look at between these two besides just a couple more bells on the 6? Also my budget does not included monitors and that $279 for the U2412M is awesome except Dell.com doesn't ship to Canada.

@ jsrudd, I never said anything about an i7, it's been i5 3570k the whole way. I agree with you on the SSD's but it seems a lot of people are raving about these Mushkin SSD's. Thanks for the heads up on silentpcreview.com.

The Extreme4 is fine for a vast majority of users. I would not get a 570 when the 670 can be SLId on your budget as well.
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July 22, 2012 2:27:43 AM

dingo07 said:
The motherboard allows SLI at x16 for each card, most other mb's only do x8/x8

more memory is always better for multitasking, and it doesn't break the bank

Yeah, I just figure I'd throw in a bigger SSD for the heck of it - you can still get a couple games on a smaller one


When I pieced together my list last night I did have an option for a 240GB SSD but since the budget is getting to the max I decided to downgrade that for the time being. It would be better to not hit the max because I do also have about $600 worth of monitors to buy.

I'll look at getting more memory.

I'm not a hard core gamer so I wouldn't imagine the dual x16 lanes are for me.

Thanks.
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July 22, 2012 2:30:03 AM

azeem40 said:
The Extreme4 is fine for a vast majority of users. I would not get a 570 when the 670 can be SLId on your budget as well.



Ok, I'll forgo the Extreme 6.

In my OP I mentioned a bundle deal that Memory Express has for the i5 3570K and the MSI Z77A-GD65 Motherboard. What do you think about the MB?

Thanks.
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July 22, 2012 5:08:31 AM

Looks good to me.
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July 22, 2012 8:07:04 PM

I went out today and picked up a few major parts from Memory Express and updated my OP.

I still need help with:

Motherboard - AsRock Extreme 4 Z77, can someone recommend an ASUS board or best choice out of all brands? No MSI.

Memory - 8 GB or 16 GB? Kingston, G.Skill, Corsair, Etc?

Optical drive - I'm not up to date on optical dives so if someone can aware me.

GTX 670 or a Radeon 7970 - I'm thinking that the GTX 670 is better than the 7970? If so what's the best GTX 670 to get?

Thanks.
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July 22, 2012 8:10:02 PM

At your budget, I don't see a reason to get a 7950. The GTX 670 should perform better.
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July 22, 2012 8:21:30 PM

azeem40 said:
At your budget, I don't see a reason to get a 7950. The GTX 670 should perform better.


Yeah, I had a brain fart and thought the GTX 670 = 7950. I already switched to a 7970 in my last post. Just doing some more research atm.

Thanks.
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July 22, 2012 8:22:01 PM

With the latest 12.7 catalyst drivers, the 7970 is on par with the GTX 680.
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July 22, 2012 8:31:21 PM

azeem40 said:
With the latest 12.7 catalyst drivers, the AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB GHz Edition is on par with the GTX 680 above 1920x1200 resolution.


fixed that for you :) 

AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB GHz Edition Review
Drivers:
NVIDIA 304.48 Beta
AMD 12.7 Beta
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July 22, 2012 9:08:25 PM

thanks for the correction then. :p 
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July 22, 2012 9:34:22 PM

I won't be gaming above 1920x1200.

I don't want to spend over $400 for a GPU and I'm looking for the best bang for my buck even though I could spend $2000 I'd rather not.

So based on some more research, namely Seven Solid GeForce GTX 670s, But Three Stand Out along with redeemer in a previous post, I looked at the 670.

I could get the GeForce GTX 670 OC 2GB for about $389.18 + 5% GST with MX's Uber Price Beat.

Is there another lower cost choice that I can go with which will provide high end graphics? What about a 7950? I'm not looking for the best of the best since I don't usually play super high end games. I have planned to add another card in the future if needed.

Thanks.
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July 22, 2012 9:36:17 PM

For 1920x1200 and not playing super high end games, I think a Radeon 7850 would be enough.
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July 22, 2012 9:43:27 PM

azeem40 said:
For 1920x1200 and not playing super high end games, I think a Radeon 7850 would be enough.


Ok.

I just remembered that I'm going to be hooking this up to my 42" Sharp 1080p TV. Will a 7850 still be good?
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July 22, 2012 9:45:03 PM

1080p is a lesser resolution than 1200p, so of course.
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July 23, 2012 12:56:19 AM

I'm having a hard time finding good reviews on the 7850's and 7870's. None that really stick out as a winner. Does anybody have some more info to help?
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July 23, 2012 12:59:50 AM

HardOCP usually has one of the best reviews for almost anything.
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July 23, 2012 6:51:19 AM

Juice01 said:
I'm having a hard time finding good reviews on the 7850's and 7870's. None that really stick out as a winner. Does anybody have some more info to help?


Juice1,

pls refer here http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-revi...

btw, i highly recommend you to go to HD7850 DCU II or HD7870 DCU II.. this card is very cold man.. dont worry about OC

i5-3570k,
Asus P8Z77-V or Asus P8Z77-V Pro
Kingston Hyper X 8GB (4GB x 2)
Hard Drive: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe MX 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate 1 TB baracuda
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
hyper evo 212
GPU: HD 7850 Direct CU II $249.99 @ Amazon




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July 24, 2012 12:17:35 AM

daamz said:
Juice1,

pls refer here http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-revi...

btw, i highly recommend you to go to HD7850 DCU II or HD7870 DCU II.. this card is very cold man.. dont worry about OC

i5-3570k,
Asus P8Z77-V or Asus P8Z77-V Pro
Kingston Hyper X 8GB (4GB x 2)
Hard Drive: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe MX 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate 1 TB baracuda
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
hyper evo 212
GPU: HD 7850 Direct CU II $249.99 @ Amazon


I did look at the review the other day however it's only a test on the reference cards and it was done before the release.

So I went and picked up:

Corsair Obsidian 550D
Cool Master Hyper 212 Evo
Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H

All I need now is the memory, GPU and the optical drive unless anybody has so serious concerns about what I have so far.
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July 24, 2012 12:27:14 AM

Juice01 said:
I did look at the review the other day however it's only a test on the reference cards and it was done before the release.

So I went and picked up:

Corsair Obsidian 550D
Cool Master Hyper 212 Evo
Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H

All I need now is the memory, GPU and the optical drive unless anybody has so serious concerns about what I have so far.



how big and how many monitor you want to use?

GPU Asus HD 7850 DCU II..
Ram: kingston hyper X, or corsair vengeance 4GB X 2..

you may choose Asus or Sony for optical drive. all same..not much different
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July 24, 2012 12:28:18 AM

daamz said:
how big and how many monitor you want to use?

GPU Asus HD 7850 DCU II..
Ram: kingston hyper X, or corsair vengeance 4GB X 2..

you may choose Asus or Sony for optical drive. all same..not much different


2 x Dell UltraSharp U2412M.

Check my OP.
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July 24, 2012 12:58:30 AM

oh.. okay.. i missed it.. no worry.. GPU Asus HD 7850 DCU II will serve you.. make sure to buy heat sink ya!. 212 Evo is good enough.. try overclock your 3570k and your gpu wenenever you want
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July 24, 2012 3:22:38 AM

daamz said:
oh.. okay.. i missed it.. no worry.. GPU Asus HD 7850 DCU II will serve you.. make sure to buy heat sink ya!. 212 Evo is good enough.. try overclock your 3570k and your gpu wenenever you want


I'm going to pick up the Asus HD 7850 DCU II tomorrow.

I will try some minor overclocking, never done it before.

In regards to memory, Ivy Bridge only likes 1.5v memory so I've been looking for a good 8 GB kit. I found Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Dual Channel Kit (2 x 4GB)l, does anybody see a problem with this set?
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July 24, 2012 3:59:26 AM

Juice01 said:
I'm going to pick up the Asus HD 7850 DCU II tomorrow.

I will try some minor overclocking, never done it before.

In regards to memory, Ivy Bridge only supports 1.5v memory so I've been looking for a good 8 GB kit. I found Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Dual Channel Kit (2 x 4GB)l, does anybody see a problem with this set?


Yes, can.. its no problem.. your mobo support 1600MHZ and CPU 1.5v,.. you want to use Low Profile RAM? yes, for me its a good choice.. save a bit of your case room for the ventilation purpose. its good choice for me.. i give you the link.. maybe u already know.. http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/m...
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July 24, 2012 4:17:45 AM

update us when everything is setup.. run the game that you want.. e.g COD MW3.. and on this september, MW4 wil be launch.. rmember that!
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July 24, 2012 4:21:46 AM

and dont forget to use HDMI cable or DVI-D (dual link) cable and plug it to your GPU port.. no more VGA please.. we are at 2012 already..
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July 25, 2012 2:35:09 AM

daamz said:
and dont forget to use HDMI cable or DVI-D (dual link) cable and plug it to your GPU port.. no more VGA please.. we are at 2012 already..



I'm going to use Display Port on the Dell monitors. What made you think I would use VGA?
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July 25, 2012 3:36:06 AM

Juice01 said:
I'm going to use Display Port on the Dell monitors. What made you think I would use VGA?


haha.. i just kidding... simply said it.. :) 
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