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Time for a gaming rig! Need advice

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July 21, 2012 11:28:48 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week (the closer the better)
Within the month of August

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) Before / After Rebates; Before / After Shipping
I have $5000 to spend, but I don't need a $5000 pc, thats just my budget

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)
Gaming, Gaming, Gaming, surfing the internet, microsoft word

Are you buying a monitor:

Do you need to buy OS: Yes
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.
I would like a windows operating system

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.:, -- to show us selection & pricing)
Either is fine. I'm not really partial to one or the other.

Location: City, State/Region, Country - we need to know where these parts are being assembled and whether there are good store-only deals available
I assume this is my location
Medford, NJ USA

Parts Preferences: by brand or type
I would prefer Intel over AMD but I'm not really sure of the difference

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire:
I honestly don't know what this means. What ever will give me a better game performance, I want that one :) 
I do know that I want a really high end gpu like a nvidia gtx 680 or an amd equivelent

Your Monitor Resolution: (e.g.: 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200 or if you're upgrading please state what you'd want to get)
1920 x 1080

Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC. Please also list specific software or games you're using)
I don't NEED a pc with windows but it would be REALLY NICE. Also, I don't really care if its loud or quiet (although quiet is definitely better), but I do want it to have adequate cooling, whether it be fans or water cooling. I play games like battlefield 3 and minecraft

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: (e.g. I'm having trouble running game X or my PSU broke)
I game on an xbox 360 and up until recently, I thought that was as good as it got. I went over to a friends house, who has a falcon nw tiki, and we played bf3. I was blown away. The graphics were crisp and clear and the destruction was unreal. Going back to my xbox is a huge downgrade so I want something to replicate my falcon nw tiki experience

I am not that experienced with pc's so I need you guys to help me out. I want to be able to play bf3 on ultra settings with great frames per second. I want to get the most graphical performance and speed that I can with my budget. Now that I have experienced the power of pc gaming, I want to go all the way, no holds barred! Thanks guys

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a b 4 Gaming
July 21, 2012 11:40:08 PM

$4500-$5000 is an insane budget. You can build something that runs BF3 on Ultra for $2K, or $2.5K, and it will play any game on Ultra for the next half-decade.
a b 4 Gaming
July 21, 2012 11:42:49 PM

Medford is about 20mi away from the Philadelphia Microcenter. I suggets you get your parts from there. A lot cheaper than Newegg.
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a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 12:01:45 AM

you can max out bf3 with 1600 dollars bro.

at 5k, i can buy dual xeons and all that fancy server stuff that no normal user can use

heres what i would get. id aim for 1500 dollars. 2 things that i would upgrade from this build. one, id get a noctua nh-d14 cooler instead of the hyper 212 evo as it has a lot more overclocking headroom and is much quieter. the second thing that you can upgrade is the case to a corsair obsidian 650d. the carbide 500R is one of the best cases out there but the 650d is more premium.

1500 dollars.

a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 12:02:35 AM

3000 dollars and i can get a custom fitted water cooling system but i wont
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 12:09:14 AM

Yes, but $2k will get him 2 GTX 680's.
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 12:58:01 AM

i know that but thats still overkill for a 1080p screen.
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 1:01:44 AM

At a 3k budget, I'd be looking at getting an SLI setup for 2560x1440 monitors, like the Yamasaki Catleaps.
July 22, 2012 1:15:05 AM

Ok, I have no experience with this stuff so if my price is too high, I have no idea. Could you guys customize a great pc in the 2000-2500 range? If two gtx 680s are overkill now, they should last me a while right?

I don't mean to seem lazy or come across as stupid, but I'm asking you guys because I don't know the first thing about putting together rigs
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 1:28:40 AM

where can i get one of those catleap monitors? no ebay for me
July 22, 2012 3:28:03 PM

Anybody have any suggestions to squeeze out the best gaming performance with $2500. Im looking to buy something soon
July 22, 2012 4:16:26 PM

I want to build a solid system so it will last me for some time and I won't be stuck in this vicious upgrade cycle. BF3 is what I'm playing now but in 3-4 years I will be playing more graphically intense and more demanding games. I want a pc that can run bf3 on ultra now and some other game on ultra later instead of ultra on bf3 now and a new card later.

TheBigTroll or anybody willing to help (please do!), could you customize a rig for me with that in mind
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 4:56:04 PM

as i suggested before. it can play games at max settings right now and will do so for the next 2 years. then you will have to turn down to basic ultra and so forth. you can always add another gtx670 in the future if you need the boost in performance

its impossible to keep up max settings for 3-4years with current hardware as tech only goes forward. in the past, hardware only changes once 1.5-2.5years. now they change every year or less making catching up much harder

you can get this now but it is about the same as the 1500 dollar build only that you get the performance of 2 680s all at once instead of buying them seperately. buying the 1500 dollar option is the smarter way to go
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 6:08:52 PM

2 GTX 680's are better than a 690. Higher clocks, and if you plan on reselling, very few people will buy a 690. Many people will buy a used 680 instead of used 690.
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 6:25:45 PM

yeah but a 690 uses less power than 2 680s
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 6:28:16 PM

True, but for $2500, he can get a beefy PSU. And it's not like you'll save a ton of money on the electrical bill.
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 6:34:14 PM

its still something. we need to protect nature bro by using least power possible for the same performance :D  jks

still, its still something worth saving
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 7:06:11 PM

Yes, but look, in the future, when upgrading, you aren't going to throw out that 690. You're going to want to sell it and buy a new GPU. But, very few people will be willing to buy a 690. More people would buy a 680. The 690 has some pros like like less power consumption, but SLI 680's beat it.
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 7:07:42 PM

why wouldnt people want to buy a 690 compared to a 680. they are much less common making them a rarity in the future
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 7:14:23 PM

There is no other way to get it. If you read the thread, you'd not be so weary of ebay.
July 22, 2012 7:33:23 PM

So what is the point of a 680 if it will just be outclassed in 2 years?
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 7:40:27 PM

it would be outclassed in the next year as the 780 comes out but it will stay high performing for 3 years at least
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 7:45:13 PM

That's how gaming pcs work, sadly.
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 7:47:05 PM

back then, computers last since they only get updated every 2 years or so. now that cycle doesnt happen anymore
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 9:11:03 PM

No point in getting an i5-760 when the i5-2500k is more recent.
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 9:19:33 PM

I'd get an i5-3570K, 16GB RAM, 2 GTX 680's/690, and a Noctua D14.
July 22, 2012 10:41:01 PM

obsama1 said:
I'd get an i5-3570K, 16GB RAM, 2 GTX 680's/690, and a Noctua D14.

ok, is i7 not worth it or should I go for it? If yes, which i7? thanks
July 22, 2012 11:35:49 PM

Also is there a case that is the same or better than the corsair obsidian 650d? I think they are going out of production because they aren't in stock online anywhere
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 11:36:43 PM

500R has better thermals.
a b 4 Gaming
July 22, 2012 11:46:05 PM

the 650D looks better but 500R has better thermals as azeem40 said due to the fact that the 500R is much more open and has a nice 200mm fan on the side panel
a b 4 Gaming
July 23, 2012 12:47:47 AM

For a build like that, why not get a Bluray burner and 16GB of RAM?
a b 4 Gaming
July 23, 2012 12:58:11 AM

Cuz sometimes spending more $ isn't ideal.
July 23, 2012 4:27:08 AM

obsama1 said:
For a build like that, why not get a Bluray burner and 16GB of RAM?

Should I have more RAM?
a b 4 Gaming
July 23, 2012 11:16:19 AM

gaming rig: no but if you want some more, it doesnt hurt other than your wallet
July 23, 2012 5:24:59 PM

TheBigTroll said:
gaming rig: no but if you want some more, it doesnt hurt other than your wallet

Ok, and am I good with the i5 or should I go i7. Thats the last thing i need to know before I buy
a b 4 Gaming
July 23, 2012 5:29:15 PM

i5 is enough for gaming. Games won't use hyperthreading for many years.
a b 4 Gaming
July 23, 2012 6:05:07 PM

i bought a i7 3770k....
a b 4 Gaming
July 23, 2012 6:07:43 PM

And why?
a b 4 Gaming
July 23, 2012 6:17:39 PM

my system has to last 7 years without getting too outdated. my cousin convinced me after i opened a system with a first gen athlon from 1999 i think on the 250nm process
a b 4 Gaming
July 23, 2012 6:21:14 PM

I just plan to last my system till Skymont.